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Offline Rogi

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2013, 02:46 PM »
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How active the league would be, how many newcomers would stuck to the league, how high would be level on playoffs
...how many mighty psychos like you...  :D :D :D

Dulek, i agree.

It won't help get new players anyway. I'm sorry so much... IMHO, poker is stuped game, a bit psychology, a bit math, so for me that's much easier like game.
i dont wanna compare pocker and wa. But if i have choise where i can win some money... in WA or in pocker. My choise is pocker, coz it would be faster and easier than WA. So, money cant help with newcomers here.

We must focus on developing league generally, i dont think that it's all works perfectly and it's ready for real prices. Also, tournaments\cup with $$$ looks more interesting.


« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 04:10 PM by Rogi »
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Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2013, 03:07 PM »
if you think "pocker" is stupid then you just dont know poker deep enough

Offline Fabrousse

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2013, 03:18 PM »
fab, people are still playing your roper maps, they are among the most popular on wormnet still.

Im so proud of it!
I saw some of my maps with colors and shit.

Thats too good.

Community build this game thats awsome!

You still a shark at roping walrus?

Offline Fabrousse

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2013, 03:52 PM »
Maybe you should try money league with a game where skill is as import as luck.
Shopper? lol

Well fish play poker because they think they can win some time (luck yes)

Offline Rogi

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2013, 04:09 PM »
if you think "pocker" is stupid then you just dont know poker deep enough

I prefer to be silent if i dont know some thing.  This note doesnt need comment, coz it's my opinion. But if u replied coz i made typo in "poker" - thanks.
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Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2013, 04:20 PM »
if you think "pocker" is stupid then you just dont know poker deep enough

Good chess players change to poker because it's much easier to win money with poker than it is with chess. If a good poker player were to change to chess, he would be butchered.

Offline Maciej

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2013, 04:30 PM »
But how do you imagine it works? Both players put money in and the winner takes all? It can't work, there will be even more avoiders and no new players.
Or if you find sponsor who gives money for tourneys and cups.

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2013, 04:33 PM »
But how do you imagine it works? Both players put money in and the winner takes all?
you can do this without tus at all. The idea is winning money by winning PO where you cant avoid etc

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2013, 04:41 PM »
You seem to have missed his actual question, Impo: where's the money coming from? Sponsor? Buying yourself in the game?

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2013, 04:48 PM »
Maybe cup 10€ buy in ? i like gambling :)

Offline Fabrousse

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2013, 05:29 PM »
Personally I left my work (IT developper) to only play poker.
Its not just gamble!

http://fr.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/PokerStars/players/mrGR33N13

Poker is around 40% skill, 30% "luck", and for some guy : between 10 and 20% discipline (bankroll management) & mental (tilt handling etc...).

If you have an edge on your opponent (skill, mental, management) you can only win in long term (many hands).
For poker it works, because fishes (noob) play just because they belive on the 30% of luck and are gamblers.

Whatever, if you want this to work for worms, I think the money can come only from players.
There is a bit of luck in worms (where the cr8 fall and other thing I think..)
You already play for virtual medail and to get respect from others.
Im sure you could play for money also.
The problem for worms is that its mostly a skill game. So the begginer won't bet against you all.
You have to find a way...
A system where beginner could play some beginner maybe.

Im sure there is something todo.

Maybe leagues
Maybe big tournaments (I heard about a worms tournament in paris with money)
Maybe heads up (one vs one)
Maybe challenge (Be the first to to something)
...

With my poker player community we do much "Side bet", and Im the first who asked players to play worms against me lol.
http://fr.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=138349

Everything is about money.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 05:48 PM by Fabrousse »

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2013, 05:49 PM »
You seem to have missed his actual question, Impo: where's the money coming from? Sponsor? Buying yourself in the game?
there is 3 ways to realize this:
1. player gotta pay 2.99$ (for example ;D ) to play on a single season, Im sure there will be at least 40 players who interest in this, winner gets 100$ and 20$ for runner-up
2. find sponsor, Im sure there is people with money on world interest in this, the problem is that we cant find them and thats hard for them to find us
3. put some advertisment on tus and pay this money to the winner. Math time now
usual advertisment works like that:
clicking at the ad: 0.05$
cost per 1000 views 0.01$
classic season goes 2 month ( we can raise it to 3 or 4 month so the money prize will be higher too)
I dont saw statistics but Im sure tus site have many visitors. Even if ad would show only for guests there would be at least 50$ each 2 months

Offline rU`

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2013, 06:17 PM »
Don't wanna ruin the party here but it ain't gonna work at all, in terms of general league competitiveness.

You've said it yourself:
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The problem for worms is that its mostly a skill game. So the begginer won't bet against you all.
You have to find a way...

Furthermore this community is always trying to minimise the luck factor. A way to make your money thing work would be increasing the luck factor for every league scheme, which is merely contradictory according to competitive spirit.
Not to mention those who are underaged, they'd end up excluded of the league... plus not even half of the community would approve this.

By the way, cool to see you here Fabrousse. Used to play your roper maps a lot.
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Offline Rogi

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2013, 06:18 PM »
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2. find sponsor, Im sure there is people with money on world interest in this, the problem is that we cant find them and thats hard for them to find us
Hmm.. it would be some super star... who have much money...
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Offline franz

Re: Intrucing money into the game.
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2013, 06:34 PM »
Time to bring weapon and health crates back to Elite