WA Cheating, Implication, and Legacy

[TheKomodo]

Link has been removed. Do not share scripts for roping.

You need to edit quotes as well.

[angus]

Is there a new script I don't know about? Because using the script I know won't make you a better player in any way. If you suck and don't put in the effort to learn rope, you'll keep sucking no matter what script you use. Stop fooling yourself with such nonsense.

The only real cheats are modules that reveal crate contents, expose inventories, and provide unfair advantages like permanent laser sight or the ability to see invisible worms (not counting offline cheats like XSpeed). Back in the day, cheats like these actually existed.

I know, must be frustrating to blow a fortune on top-tier hardware and still get outplayed by some random player with real skills.

Back in the good days, the best players were that good because of their accuracy and flawless technique, not because of taps nor hardware - at least in South America since all we had was a cheap plastic keyboard.
Scripts for tapping faster are laughable and give almost zero advantages in a super competitive context. It's all about accuracy, good timing, quick thinking and the ability to handle a lot of pressure when you are in front of decisive turns facing top players knowing you need to be spotless.

In the highest heights of tus, what players had super fast taps and dominated the league? Barring Anubis I can't remember none from CF, cfc, Tag, ckc or dt.

I agree with lalo.
Zippo was using that script really well in my opinion.
Anyway it dosent make you better, natural timing its the best way.

[TheKomodo]

Zippo was using that script really well in my opinion.

From what I seen he was useless with taps, he couldn't control them, he was like that fast skater in the mighty ducks who goes really fast then slams into the wall.

He was much better when he didn't spam the spacebar and controlled his tapping.

I didn't realize he was using a script though, looked more like fingerroll spam to me.

[angus]

that script gives you some millisec of advantages, from a shot to another with fingerroll, you dont have to wait untill the second finger its up to shot the next rope. 
While with spacebar its one large button you have to wait the spacebar coming back and use the other finger, its another kind of timming.

Its not about fast roping, it helps you when you fail your finger timing.

Form me isnt not cheating but just a bit lame.

Im feeling cool with my spacebar i just bought the same kb i had back in the days

[sock]

Looks like your playing the piano a bit

[angus]

So zippo roping  was like this man play guitar

[style]

Is there a new script I don't know about? Because using the script I know won't make you a better player in any way. If you suck and don't put in the effort to learn rope, you'll keep sucking no matter what script you use. Stop fooling yourself with such nonsense.

The only real cheats are modules that reveal crate contents, expose inventories, and provide unfair advantages like permanent laser sight or the ability to see invisible worms (not counting offline cheats like XSpeed). Back in the day, cheats like these actually existed.

I know, must be frustrating to blow a fortune on top-tier hardware and still get outplayed by some random player with real skills.

Back in the good days, the best players were that good because of their accuracy and flawless technique, not because of taps nor hardware - at least in South America since all we had was a cheap plastic keyboard.
Scripts for tapping faster are laughable and give almost zero advantages in a super competitive context. It's all about accuracy, good timing, quick thinking and the ability to handle a lot of pressure when you are in front of decisive turns facing top players knowing you need to be spotless.

In the highest heights of tus, what players had super fast taps and dominated the league? Barring Anubis I can't remember none from CF, cfc, Tag, ckc or dt.

100%.

[TheKomodo]

So zippo roping  was like this man play guitar

No, because that guy can actually play the guitar that fast and control it flawlessly lol.

[Sensei]

Anything that emulates one physical action to one single keypress = legit.  Whether it's a button on your keyboard, controller, etc.

Anything that creates multiple inputs from just one action = cheating.  Whether it's a physical button on your keyboard or a macro.

WkKeyRemap (an old module) is considered cheating because it registers the next keypress before the previous key-up is received.  So you can have multiple spacebars and tap quickly without having to time your finger roll accurately. It's not a macro, just an oversight of the program author. Technically the action of pressing the key down and then back up are two distinct physical actions.

WkRemapKeys (current module) is legit because it discards multiple keypresses if the key is still in key-down state. Just like a real keyboard.

Wooting/fancy keyboards that have an intermediate stop on the spacebar, so a half-actuation presses space once, and a full actuation presses twice, are a grey area.  If you accept that one hard press = one physical action, it's cheating according to my definition above, because you get two physical inputs from one action. Maybe my definition is wrong.

Some cheats are worse than others.  WkWormOrder, transparent water/background soil, and arguably Wooting keyboards would be on one end of the villain spectrum, and advanced aimbots on the other end.  We really shouldn't vilify people equally.  Also frequency of cheating is another factor in one's level of villainny.

Wanted to comment in this thread, but seems like j0e reads my mind in his free time.
You said it all man. Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

[TheKomodo]

Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

So anyone else that has an opinion or comment shouldn't be allowed to have their say? I wholeheartedly disagree.

At the end of the day "cheating" is subjective to the rules that whoever is in charge decides to implement.

One day all of the above might be considered legal, one day things that are currently legal may be illegal, so it's best to keep conversations like this open because as time flows everything changes.

Besides, these things are interesting to talk about, someone might come along and educate us further.

[Kradie]

I am all open to all kind of arguments. One should not throttled anyone's opinion even if a subject seem to be concluded. You may not like or agree with an opinion but you will be Informed of a different stance, a stance that may or may not be familiar.

I wonder if in time the majority here will think it is ok to cheat in a online multiplayer game in the future though. So far only 2 people think it is ok. Kind of baffling if you ask me.

[TheKomodo]

I wonder if in time the majority here will think it is ok to cheat in a online multiplayer game in the future though. So far only 2 people think it is ok. Kind of baffling if you ask me.

Personally speaking, I always have and always will think cheating is for cowards and anyone who cheats should be dealt with swiftly and severely.

However, I am actually open to changing rules about what is and isn't cheating as long as the playing field is balanced and fair for everyone.

[Sensei]

So anyone else that has an opinion or comment shouldn't be allowed to have their say? I wholeheartedly disagree.

Where did I say someone shouldn't be allowed to speak or have an opinion?
Would like to be informed when you find that part of my post.

[sock]

I wonder if in time the majority here will think it is ok to cheat in a online multiplayer game in the future though. So far only 2 people think it is ok. Kind of baffling if you ask me.

Seems like you are assuming 2 people think it is ok, the polls shows a different result

[sock]

I wonder if in time the majority here will think it is ok to cheat in a online multiplayer game in the future though. So far only 2 people think it is ok. Kind of baffling if you ask me.

Personally speaking, I always have and always will think cheating is for cowards and anyone who cheats should be dealt with swiftly and severely.

The wooting keyboard and further updated keyboards might be considered cheating by some, should we ban you forever?