Game #241063, reported by flashR

Triad · March 05, 2024, 06:18 PM

Quote[dF-blitzed`zar] who is eegy u knew him?

e3gy was one of the best Turkish freestyle ropers, his name still comes up among Turkish ropers today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Ddw3HuWmc

flashR · March 06, 2024, 01:42 AM

Quote from: Triad on March 05, 2024, 06:18 PM
e3gy was one of the best Turkish freestyle ropers, his name still comes up among Turkish ropers today

Ow, nice video, he is very skilled freestyler for sure. I like his WxW maps so much! Especially this butterfly map is a pure art.

TheKomodo · March 06, 2024, 01:45 AM

Definitely a skilled roper, such a shame you can't hear the sound of the rope in that video though.

Sensei · March 09, 2024, 06:41 AM

Since when community talks in superlatives about guys using cheats for roping?

TheWalrus · March 09, 2024, 07:22 AM

Quote from: Sensei on March 09, 2024, 06:41 AM
Since when community talks in superlatives about guys using cheats for roping?

roping looked a little wack but wasn't gonna say anything about it

Triad · March 09, 2024, 12:08 PM

Quote from: Sensei on March 09, 2024, 06:41 AM
Since when community talks in superlatives about guys using cheats for roping?

If you count using two spacebar keys as a cheat, sure.

TheKomodo · March 09, 2024, 05:41 PM

Quote from: TheWalrus on March 09, 2024, 07:22 AM
roping looked a little wack but wasn't gonna say anything about it

How? Looks like pretty normal top tier roping to me lol.

Not to mention it's all small clips taken from thousands of hours of practise.

flashR · March 09, 2024, 05:41 PM

Quote from: Sensei on March 09, 2024, 06:41 AM
Since when community talks in superlatives about guys using cheats for roping?

What cheats was he using? Do you have any proofs or just a guess? Just interesting, because I only see superfast shadows, which cannot be performed consistent and reliably way without macro / special script.

Quote from: TheWalrus on March 09, 2024, 07:22 AM
roping looked a little wack but wasn't gonna say anything about it

Any wack moments? Please post it with timecodes. I'm not going to argue or defend anyone, I'm just interested in seeing wack moments that I don't see (except superfast shadows as I said above).

TheKomodo · March 09, 2024, 05:43 PM

Myself, Mablak, and various others can do everything shown in that video and can do it live on stream with proof.

Not saying we'd nail it immediately but show any one of those clips and you could do it live on stream showing webcam and keyboard inputs within 30 minutes.

There are a number of players much better than what is shown in that video.

TheWalrus · March 09, 2024, 06:33 PM

Quote from: flashR on March 09, 2024, 05:41 PM
What cheats was he using? Do you have any proofs or just a guess? Just interesting, because I only see superfast shadows, which cannot be performed consistent and reliably way without macro / special script.

Any wack moments? Please post it with timecodes. I'm not going to argue or defend anyone, I'm just interested in seeing wack moments that I don't see (except superfast shadows as I said above).

im taking about the guy egy or whatever, i remember roping with him and his keyboard would spazz out like it was on drugs sometimes and do completely unrealistic tapping things. Didnt watch the full video, I just remember his roping, im not smart enough to know what would produce such a thing. I just know with the eye test when i see stuff that isnt possible.

EDIT: just watched the video, its pretty good, dunno if he stopped using his macro/program thing cause the roping doesn't look very unrealistic as komo said

Too bad I don't have my game replays going that far back, im sure i could show you some of the weird roping things i seen this egy guy do

flashR · March 09, 2024, 07:00 PM

Quote from: TheWalrus on March 09, 2024, 06:33 PM
im taking about the guy egy or whatever, i remember roping with him and his keyboard would spazz out like it was on drugs sometimes and do completely unrealistic tapping things. Didnt watch the full video, I just remember his roping, im not smart enough to know what would produce such a thing. I just know with the eye test when i see stuff that isnt possible.

EDIT: just watched the video, its pretty good, dunno if he stopped using his macro/program thing cause the roping doesn't look very unrealistic as komo said

Too bad I don't have my game replays going that far back, im sure i could show you some of the weird roping things i seen this egy guy do

I'm talking about him too. I didn't get which things you label as "unrealistic": anything from this video or from old replays where you've played with him? I'd like to see the timecodes or something.

TheWalrus · March 09, 2024, 09:15 PM

Quote from: flashR on March 09, 2024, 07:00 PM
I'm talking about him too. I didn't get which things you label as "unrealistic": anything from this video or from old replays where you've played with him? I'd like to see the timecodes or something.

anecdotal (personal) experience of playing with him in the past, don't know if you've ever seen this super fast rope spasm thing, we need someone who knows more than me to know which program does it. Someone I play with in this community semi-regularly, his rope does the same glitchy type thing, so maybe I'll ask him what program/macro he uses.

It looks really unnatural when you see it though.

Again, not talking about the video so stop asking me for timestamps lol

Already more involved in this then I want to be

Korydex · March 09, 2024, 09:17 PM

Quote from: TheWalrus on March 09, 2024, 09:15 PM
anecdotal (personal) experience of playing with him in the past, don't know if you've ever seen this super fast rope spasm thing, we need someone who knows more than me to know which program does it.

It looks really unnatural when you see it though.

this old program maybe? https://worms2d.info/Constipated_Silkworm

Sensei · March 09, 2024, 11:34 PM

Triad and flash - I don't have proof. Although, it's a known fact that freestylers use scripts and don't even try to hide it. Can't respect the rope skill they show, but I personally respect the honesty behind it. Most of them admitted using forbidden macro to rope the way they rope, after I asked.

If I'm wrong about e3gy, will gladly apologise and bite my tongue. But the real questions are - why you guys are so sure he's not cheating and can you prove it? Thanks.

TheWalrus · March 09, 2024, 11:51 PM

Quote from: Sensei on March 09, 2024, 11:34 PM
Triad and flash - I don't have proof. Although, it's a known fact that freestylers use scripts and don't even try to hide it. Can't respect the rope skill they show, but I personally respect the honesty behind it. Most of them admitted using forbidden macro to rope the way they rope, after I asked.

If I'm wrong about e3gy, will gladly apologise and bite my tongue. But the real questions are - why you guys are so sure he's not cheating and can you prove it? Thanks.

I think the burden of proof should be to prove he's cheating, not to prove he's not, Sen. Honestly I don't think it's cheating if it's not for league anyways. I don't think this guy was a league player ever, so it doesn't even matter much. It doesn't feel right to slander him anyways because he's not around, I shouldn't have opened my mouth up in the first place. Going to depart this thread.

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