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Game #87675, Reported by Ray, Viewed 566 Time(s)

Classic #22
Singles
October 23, 2011, 05:14 PM
Winner
MonkeyIsland
Iran dP REM NfBX
Reasonable 1545 in TTRR before the game. Gained 72|69 points
Loser
blitzed
United Kingdom dt ZaR rrX
Hero 2372 in TTRR before the game. Lost 45|69 points
  

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5 / 5
Total Members Voted: 1
Players history
TTRR, #22
Iran MonkeyIsland
blitzed United Kingdom
1 - 8
TTRR, Overall
Iran MonkeyIsland
blitzed United Kingdom
6 - 21
classic, #22
Iran MonkeyIsland
blitzed United Kingdom
3 - 12
classic, Overall
Iran MonkeyIsland
blitzed United Kingdom
19 - 40
Information Game scheme: TTRR
Scheme pick: Both pick (Like a 3rd game)
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1920 x 696, BIT, 0.75 KB, Downloaded 9443 time(s)

Game Chat(s)
[dPxMonkeyIsland] hf
[ps-dibz] u2
[ps-dibz] *takes coat off* preperation
dPxMonkeyIsland wonders ...
[ps-dibz] *rope didnt fire*
[ps-dibz] :(
[ps-dibz] l;ol
[dPxMonkeyIsland] 50
[ps-dibz] no way
[dPxMonkeyIsland] wee
[dPxMonkeyIsland] n run
[dPxMonkeyIsland] 48
[dPxMonkeyIsland] sigh
[ps-dibz] t
[dPxMonkeyIsland] finally
[ps-dibz] gg
[dPxMonkeyIsland] 47
[dPxMonkeyIsland] gg
[dPxMonkeyIsland] more?

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Offline Crazy

Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« on: October 11, 2011, 11:06 PM »
Interesting discussion here whether its allowed to knock a worm for hp purposes without having collected the crate (or in this case touched the walls). I`ve always thought of a knock to reduce hp as an attack, and personally I would not have done this knock without touching the walls first. It is allowed in TUS, but by definition (CBA), shouldn`t it not be allowed?

PS: I forgive you nino <3
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Offline Ray

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 11:15 PM »
Knocking is not an attack, even if you deliberately damage the worm or not. Attack is using a weapon.

The rules are clear about having to collect a crate/touch a wall before you attack, knocking is not an attack.
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Offline Crazy

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 11:24 PM »
Ofcourse knocking is an attack, you deliberately interfere with the other worm in order to do damage. If I pushed/knocked you off a cliff Ray and you fell 30 meters down, would you not say it was an attack on you?
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Offline nino

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 12:30 AM »
ae crazy <3

and lol frango23, nice nino`s comparison xD
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 06:34 AM »
And yeah, following Rays logic, I guess Pearl Harbor wasn't an attack either?
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Offline Ray

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 08:07 AM »
As if worms had any common sense compared to real life. :D

It's always been like that since I can remember, XTC, CBC cleared these situations in their rules and I remember specifically that they said "knocking is not an attack".
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 08:09 AM »
Lol I know mate, literally, it's an attack, but Leagues never seen it that way really.

I think one thing that affects this, is in Roper clanners, where you can knock an opponent down onto his/her teammate for a pile, THEN collect crate and attack. If you get me?
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Offline Ray

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 08:11 AM »
Yea. Here's my last message in this topic, since I really hate reading and arguing on multiple pages:

Knocking is not an attack.
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Offline Statik

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 08:28 AM »
Knock doesn't end a turn like zook or nade. Following this logic this is not an attack. And of course there is no any weapon used when knocking. If an enemy falls near a mine I dropped in my previous turn and get hit, then it's also an attack? :)
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 08:32 AM »
Quote from: Ray on October 12, 2011, 08:11 AM
Yea. Here's my last message in this topic, since I really hate reading and arguing on multiple pages:

Knocking is not an attack.

Sorry mate, I wasn't arguing I was just, talking lol.

You cannot say that knocking is not an attack, generally speaking, if you mean in this League, then I agree, anything that deals damage is an attack whether accidental or intentional.
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Offline Cueshark

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 08:53 AM »
;O erased - didn't read the OP. 

That was my point.  CBA doesn't stop you from knocking before the crate.

« Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 08:56 AM by Cueshark »
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Offline darKz

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 04:58 PM »
Knocking was never considered an attack for the reasons Statik and Cue stated. I don't think that should be changed either, it's good the way it is. Getting knocked to death is your own fault to begin with. ;)
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Offline Chicken23

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2011, 10:05 AM »
Quote from: nino on October 12, 2011, 12:30 AM

and lol frango23, nice nino`s comparison xD

 :-X what did i do!?


In w2w i've knocked to deal damage before, but in roper i wouldnt know if it is legal. I feel maybe mab is right, not sure if its covered in tus rules tho!
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Offline ZiPpO

Re: Game #87675, Reported by Ray
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2011, 04:48 PM »
i agree with ray.
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