Yeh I dont like that idea as well since I dont have problems with a maps. But I would prefer 'that' above a new scheme. I just thought about it because this would take the problem away but it would be crazy if you can't even draw a random roper map anymore. Do I speak against myself now? ah well, I just thought about it and posted it.   

well basically you are just creating a new scheme, this scheme has nothing to do with the worms2 roper scheme except that its a nice way of marketing your scheme. You could call it different but yeh, that's about it.
For people that are not used to worms2 here you got a link of the main league, there is not much left but yeh, u can take a look into the rules/scheme of the current w2 roper and how its been played. Link: www.igl.net/worms2r
But I more noticed that avi is more complaining about the way you will lose a roper because you can get those hard crates. I think creating a new scheme isnt the solution for all of this. I'm more thinking of some group of players who select which maps for TUS are 'allowed' to play on. This way you might get a database with hunderds of map. people who wanna pick a map which isn't allowed yet could simply post it. So u could select a maximum difficulty for the maps. ofcourse there still should be maps with crates which are like 'piew, I need a good run for that' but that's because they are still possible but I agree that we should skip the mission impossible maps. (Tho, I dont see a lot of players play on them). That's kinda all what came up my mind. Maybe its an idea.

well t17 is a scheme where there always will be a luck factor even if you edit it.

- random start positions -> sometimes the opponent is abled to plop a worm while u didnt had a turn yet (with bt/fp/db/drill). That always will be. Specially in 2on2's but yeh, then you just should block that area off but there are examples that they couldnt get the girder in such position.

- crates -> you never know which weapon is in which crate.. Even if you catch 30 cr8's and the opponent just 15 cr8's there is a chance that he got EQ + Patsy while you just got one pidgeon. Still I think if you noticed you catched the most crates and the opponent doesnt have such arsenal as you, you should try to do as much damage to him as possible and even then a scale of justice could screw your ideas and you are still left against one/two fat worms with no SD arsenal.

7 girders or unlimited girders.. 7 girders is a bit more speedy since the person which got the most HP/worms is abled to keep opening the opponent to put pressure on him and there will come a time he doesnt got girders anymore and then the game is ended pretty quickly. If you use unlimited girders you still can make a comeback if you didn't collect the right weapons or if you are screwed by some banana that he used on you before SD so you just stay on one side getting some crates and let SD decide the game.

Ofcourse the most important is to get the biggest cratezones, get the best side for the SD, edit your own tactic by the weapons u catched.

How about 'get rid of the banana's/vase/holy's? That won't work at all. Example: player1 did collect 1x pidgeon 1x aqua and you didn't collect ANY sd weapon and you only got 'low powered' weapons so you are also not abled to push him. IF you had this weapons u could even suggest to teleport to him to put pressure on him or let him think u got something terrible in your arsenal. If you would edit all those powers and strong weapons people would be just like 'ah, 50 damage of uzi.. I can deal with that'.

I really don't see a reason to edit the scheme. Some maybe prefer the FB scheme or the scheme of HHC but in the end its all down to the player and to your tactic. If you are a good t17 player you will get 75% of the crates at least and this will be enough to give you the advantage to win the game. Sometimes you just can't get the correct weapons out all those crates and the opponent hits the weapons he did need, well... That can happen! but that's what makes it fun. You never know how it will end because you can't look into the opponent his arsenal.

Last time it was mm for trying to avoid a BnG, time before that it was doH for disrespecting our BnG pick then trying to report an Elite win even though we didn't report the BnG out of respect, time before that was TpM who were the cheapest BnG'rs I have ever seen.

Hey Dave, first of all. We aren't avoiding,disrepecting or playing cheap in a BnG. But yes, because you weren't there it increased our chances in the pick 'BnG'. Ofcourse it was one of the reasons why we picked it. Maybe if SPW + Random00 where there cFc would pick TTRR but when me & yanme where around you would say 'lets go with a BnG'. Everybody on this league, even you Dave, pick schemes where they think they have the highest chance to earn points or win the match, if not? then you might care about what you like to play the most and you don't care about the rating/skill of the opponent. Why did you pick BnG all the time? just because you only like it? or because you are also good in it? I guess you wouldnt like it when you couldnt even throw a 3 second nade correctly. Above that, people pick whatever they want. Rules like 'You can't pick a scheme when the person with the highest rating of THAT scheme inside the clan ins't online' those won't ever be created and if a clan (no matter which clan) thinks he is abled to have a chance in that scheme at that moment, then why not? I understand you don't like that you lost a BnG while you weren't there, but it isn't our bad. Ofcourse we would take an advantage out of it. The point of a league is to catch as much points as possible! That's what we are doing. Probably when you are around when cFc is clannering us we never would pick BnG but we would pick Elite instead because we get some points and it's more secure since we know you aren't that great in Elite. Same when you are doing a single game. You won't pick TTRR against Mablak but you might pick TTRR against an unexperienced roperace player. Picking the scheme with the highest rating of the opponent clan is also a challenge for you because most of the times that is the main scheme of that clan (skilled line-up). We never go for the easy points, we always look for the 'highest' rating and we will pick it if we think our current line-up makes a chance. If the rating that we get from games isn't high enough or equal we will pick whatever we feel like. Not only we picked BnG because we earned a lot of points but also because Dark just felt like BnG-ing. He isn't in b2b for nothing, he's born to bng and he just felt like, just like you would pick BnG against us even when Dark isn't online for us. I'm sure Dark wouldn't start a discussion about fairness after that neither.

I only did read first post but its simple:

Fun games -> Dont need a report (so why u need a league?) a league is made to be in competition with eachother. U want to have a competition in funners as well? If you want to play 'fun' games and dont wanna play for the win, then just find somebody in #AG that is friendly enough to give u that match.

Ofcourse if you are on a league you also have to play against players that u might not like but that's just the way it is. In the competition of football there is also war between several teams. When you join a league you agree on that. After all, I never did meet somebody that wanted to lose a game. Everybody always tryed there best inside a game. If you care about this mentality then I think you just shouldn't play league games.

I don't understand why you ever thought about creating a 'fun' section, there is already a fun section called #AnythingGoes. Up for a funner? I'll be there.

Greetz,
Uni.

Ha csongi, to bad! maybe an other brazilian person can tell him about it :d I doubt he would read the forum as well but yeh! I could try it

we replayed it and this is the new replay please replace it.

haha, enjoy your win