Jonno, please make sure we have access to all 3 ninja ropes in scheme creation.  Not doing so would be in error.

Myself and Danny (The other Community Manager) are currently compiling a feedback list for the development team

Once again thank you for the continued feedback and thoughts, they are being noted.

Hey everyone,

I'm back from E3!!!

I see there's been some discussion around crafting.

I can answer questions and concerns now so fire away.

Why reduce the number of weapons?  WA is especially great because it has such an amazing variety of weapons.  That was one of its selling points; so many unique weapons to play with!  I think reducing the number of weapons available in the game is a misguided effort that actually has the opposite effect on marketing.  Even casual/new players would think that fewer unique weapons available is worse.

There's over 80 weapons still.

We're refining what ones/types there are though for quality of life and game-play.

Yup.  Pretty much every rated ladder with automatic matchmaking (League of Legends, World of Warcraft arena, World of Tanks, Starcraft 2) these days uses such a system.  It's quite fun and fair, which helps popularity.

Remember crew, this is an overview of the multiplayer!

Let's focus on the information you now have - more will be revealed as we move forward and everything is locked in

Quote from: Jonno_Team17 on June 03, 2016, 02:58 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 03, 2016, 02:50 PM

I just hope that the pro scheme in WMD is better than the pro scheme in Clan Wars. In CW there was too much mobility for a 'pro' scheme. Ropes, jetpack, teleport guns, etc. Granted, the ropes aren't as 'powerful' in CW as they will presumably be in WMD, but still. The ranked clanner scheme was even worse. The ranking system should be more in-depth than just one scheme, and you said that depending on performance, your rank can go both up AND down. What exactly does this mean? What metrics are being reviewed?

@Jonno - I want in on that 3v3!

The Jetpack has 50 fuel in this scheme fyi.

This is the pro scheme as it stands, of course subject to potential change before launch.[attachment=1]

Regarding rank, if you keep winning you go up, consistently lose and you'll lower in rank.

So the ranking system is basically just wins vs. losses? I've always wanted to see an ELO system instead, and more stats than that come into play, such as:

Win rate %
Accuracy
# of worms/HP left at end of match
multi-kills
damage taken

etc, etc

We considered many things when thinking about ranked, but ultimately in a competitive game there are two possible outcomes. You win, or you lose.

How you win, whether by crushing victory or the narrowest of margins what matters is the big W.

I just hope that the pro scheme in WMD is better than the pro scheme in Clan Wars. In CW there was too much mobility for a 'pro' scheme. Ropes, jetpack, teleport guns, etc. Granted, the ropes aren't as 'powerful' in CW as they will presumably be in WMD, but still. The ranked clanner scheme was even worse. The ranking system should be more in-depth than just one scheme, and you said that depending on performance, your rank can go both up AND down. What exactly does this mean? What metrics are being reviewed?

@Jonno - I want in on that 3v3!

The Jetpack has 50 fuel in this scheme fyi.

This is the pro scheme as it stands, of course subject to potential change before launch.[attachment=1]

Regarding rank, if you keep winning you go up, consistently lose and you'll lower in rank.

Ok, i'm officially ROPED in

Definitely excited for this now.

@Jonno, how about when it's released let's grab some people, some from TUS Vs some from Team17 for a funner, there are some guys here who can stream on twitch too

Yes, we're up for that! I've already been reaching out to the top level Team17 Developer players to get on stream. We'll probably stream it on our channel too Thinking a 3v3 will be in order.

Jono, can you give us anything about the matchmaking, rankings system?

Will we be able to play 2v2 ranked games per example?

Ok, so I've just gone and got the thumbs up to discuss ranked mode a bit more with you all.

The game will be launching with a 1v1 ranked mode. Once we know ranked is working as intended and we're happy with how it's performing we'll be looking at adding team based ranked, such as 2v2.


- Ranked is split into 10 'Ranks', with 10 being the lowest and 1 being the highest. Depending on your performance you can go both up and down the rankings, so consistency is important.
- Everyone starts at rank 10.
- Each rank has it's own profile badge that you can display, for example rank 10 is 'Prod' and rank 1, well that's a surprise.
- There are two weapon skin rewards for performing well in ranked:

                 Reach rank 5 - Silver Grenade Weapon Skin
                 Reach rank 1 - Golden Bazooka Weapon Skin

- Ranked will matchmake you with your opponents, you can't use a lobby system and cherry pick your opponents.
- If someone disconnects the person who disconnected will be issued a loss and the remaining player a win.

Hopefully this overview answers some of your questions

so we're calling new worm titles physics realistic now?

You guys and your vocabulary. Realistic doesn't mean real life like, since when do grenades bounce like footballs or donkeys fall from the sky? Realistic clearly means consistent. There is no consitency in newer worm titles, because there is no physics simulation, just shortcuts. In WA, you can use an explosive weapon like a grenade to get an enemy worm to any place in the map depending how you use/drop the weapon, including onwards and slightly to a side. You could even make him fall on a pixel if you so desired to. There are more angles, there are many more possible outcomes for any given shot.

The shortcuts used in physics of WMD are crystal clear from all the videos. Worms do bounce off vertical walls, that's all, but their speed is irrelevant, the moment they touch the ground they slide for 1 second and stop, it doesn't matter the angle they come flying from or at what velocity they do, it's not consistent, it's not deep, there's no gravity, no weight, no friction. Movement of worms, tanks and such, it's Gunbound like, as if slopes didn't matter.

Compare a game of intermediate in WA to anything similar in newer worm games, it's like comparing chess to checkers, like f@#!ing literally.

Re: "Physics shortcuts"

=2m8s

Force, motion & terrain angle all taken into effect.