The community is scattered. We have so many different schemes and unique sites that support these schemes. We have TUS forums, we have discord. We are spoilt for choice but with little activity in any of them for the community size to really feel like a sense of achievement of victory in winning a league or tourney. The closest i've felt to feeling good about winning something was the first season of WL, and that was short lived for different reasons, but it never got a playoffs which some of us thought would happy. There isn't any issues with wormnet activity and games being played and plenty of skilled players and great competitive games to be found, but we need them to all be tracked in one place to make something bigger IMO.

I really think we need to reform the WA community and try to all come together in 1 central place.

The reason the classic leagues worked so well all those years ago was that there was nothing else, now there are loads of games to explore, which is fine, but the issue is too may leagues.

I think TUS, ONL, WL (heard rumours of a mole shopper ladder too?) should all join together for 1 global league, supporting all those schemes. And then perhaps we may have some form of monthly playoffs.

ps. This is only assuming for those who enjoy competitive leagues.

I'd say i've been inactive since my gf now wife moved into my house, that was 2016 (? my tus stats easily show it!) before then I was semi active but still struggled as a home owner and needed to spend my free time doing DIY and work. Soon as my full time job became computer based it really took a negative affect on playing worms, but didn't total stop it. Clanners were still popular in 2014/2015.

I think i was pretty much 'active', sometimes daily for lots of others, but other times a few times a week from 1998 when came was released with my dial up internet paying per minute to 2015. I had some spells as playing less often as partying and things in younger 20s. Scared at how many hours.

It's sad the last couple of years theres no clan league or classic singles 

what about those of us so oldschool like me and HHC who were playing wa online before replays? 

of course you are Kradie. You have freedom or choice and speech.

Just like everyone has a choice to take the vaccine.

I'm really struggling to see the link you are trying to make between a vaccine that can save lives, and governments control on liberty. They are two totally different things and not linked in anyway form whatever.

You believe global governments are scaring everyone into taking a vaccine that will cause them harm?

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I respect that you are ''educated'' Chicken, but perhaps you shouldn't find alternative opinions and sources as irrefutable. Nothing wrong in an open discussion about things you may not feel comfortable in.
If elderly & challenged people are the culprit of covid death, perhaps the authority should restrict their access to society rather than the healthy one.

This is the whole social dilemma of COVID and the decisions that governments decide to take. Look at Sweden with no lockdown, vs Norway, Denmark and Finland. The deaths per capita in Sweden is one of the highest due to COVID.

You are right though that people can decide to take no risks and therefore some countries may enforce no restrictions. You won't please everyone. It's also unfair to lock the elderly and vulnerable away and never let them see the light of day, but that does mean its unfair to restrict the masses and enforce having social distancing restrictions on others? There is no right answer and just our different sociological and political beliefs.

At the end of the day, this thread was about taking the vaccine or not, which is a personal choice and the UK government isn't forcing this on people. As bloopy pointed out anti-vaxers are also causing issues with children getting measles and deaths associated with this, anti-vaxing was happening before COVID, but the issue for me is the misinformation and propaganda that social media and news sites spread.

From a safety perspective, these vaccines will be very safe, and taking them should be encouraged. Not just to protect yourself, but also to hopefully protect others, although currently no evidence on this but only time will tell.

This whole pandemic I wished I lived in NZ where the rules were much stricter and it resulted in their country being covid free and living a normal life. Unfortunately the UK is so densely populated and has so much air traffic that we could never do a lockdown like NZ did and stop people coming into the country.


My personal beliefs are mother nature is hitting back at humans for overpopulating the world, climate change is a bigger issue and we have a massive population crisis. Maybe the world needs more disease and death to stop us destroying this plant beyond the point of repair? However we should look to protect lives and educate ourselves to limit our population growth (fewer families having fewer children) and use noncarbon energy sources to slow global warming. Go vegan and stop hoarding animals together so closely to allow for these type of viruses to evolve. Farming isn't natural when you think about it.

ps. I'm not vegan but realize the meat trade is causing issues.

Educate yourself and think about others.

The % of mortality in younger age groups is tiny, but soon as you get into 60-70, 70-80, and 80+ years of age you can get into as high as 20% mortality by confirmed cases.

This is a disease that threatens vulnerable and elderly lives. There are also people suffering with long covid effects and never fully recovering (young adults!) Just because you may not count as that demographic, doesn't make it a conspiracy.

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid#case-fatality-rate-of-covid-19-by-age

As I've said, I've worked in drug development, life sciences and exposed to a lot of accurate covid resources, I've linked to two resources now. I suggest you find some time to read up and expand your range of literature and thinking before drawing conclusions.


To your point about liberty and freedoms, that is a different conversation on do governments hold the rights to restrict our freedoms for our protection and something that people have difficulty agreeing all over the world. The UK won't have 'covid' passports from all i know, and its not even enforcing people to take the vaccines, but advising.

Covid will never go, it will be with us forever, but we'll have vaccines to control the disease and protect, just like we do for polio, malaria etc.

Whats dangerous if the fake news and conspiracy

The Russian vaccine was meant to have been rushed and several regulatory bodies were worried about the safety of Sputnik. I read this about 6 months ago, then last week BBC is listing Sputnik as one of the approved vaccines, even though earlier in year they said how it was raising questions in the drug development community.

My wife is extremely clinically vulnerable and a high priority to be vaccinated than over 70s!

it will take a while before those under 50 without any serious health conditions can get one.

why wouldn't you take it?

I've worked in life sciences in drug development for past 10 years and regulatory bodies are very precise and stringent on the safety and efficacy analysis of an IND (investigational new drug/device) before approval.

go to www.clinicaltrials.gov and read statistical reports and protocols if your an anti-vaccine and realise that these new medicines are all following the proper process. Your talking about at least hundreds of thousands of patients enrolled onto a clinical trial with no serious adverse events so far, and some of these people have taken the trial vaccines at the start of the pandemic over 9 months ago when it was phrase 1.

Stop believing bullshit you read on the internet and actually research peer reviewed science.

i replied in this thread earlier but i would not enjoy betting on games of worms, it would make it way to serious and want to play this game to enjoy and for fun and relax from real life.

I don't mind prizing in tourneys etc, I think eac had some cash for different places, but overall would not want to bet on single games.

Come back Master as don't think we played elites while you were in your prime!

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This is on the christmas list for my son this year!

Best thing about having kids, buy them presents that are really for you 

Totally I said to my wife.. we could get this for them... or you could get it for me!  We've just got kittens as well so think it will be well funny when they chase the kart.

I think the game recognizes when you hit an object in the real world and stops the cart in the game, and also setting up all the toys around the edge of the track and stuff.

I can imagine that the novelty may run out fairly quickly, or perhaps what makes it unique will be designing the tracks.. the challenge is multiple is so expensive... I'd have to buy another switch or get a switch lite and then the game again!!

This is on the christmas list for my son this year!

welcome back JayP! - if you get discord there are wormers on there!

sounds good!

I'd never heard of discord! Sounds like a good candidate.

Hi

without sound lazy, it would be great if there was a wormer mobile channel that we could use to arrange competitive league games and tus matches without coming to ag. Whatsapp and Private Facebook groups could be one option however there are obvious privacy concerns.

Personally it would be cool to know if a clan was searching for a clanner from a mobile device. With facebook groups you don't have to become facebook friends and the only privacy issues is someone seeing your profile picture if that is your privacy settings.

Whatsapp groups are another obvious choice but I personally would not be comfortable with wormers having my own personal number.

I know you can come onto snooper, but if there was a channel off desktop to arrange games it might help league activity.

Could reddit work and a group could be created as this is mobile based.

be nice to hear your thoughts.