I think this poll will be great to give an award for biggest shock and underdog of the tourney.

On another note... as the oldest, most experienced eliters out of you all, trained by Griffix, respected by MPH, rival to sharky, voted best eliter of the early 2000s, countless elite playoff final experience, winner of elite tournies, aggressive yet safe, darksiding yet daring, the mentor and teacher of elite to many ex clan mates and wormers who are now some of the best allrounders today, Im ready to pack a punch!.. I've still got some stuff in the basement! Rocky is back 

Quote from: ropa on June 10, 2013, 05:26 AM
these southamericans, just got democracy now they want democracy even in their soup.

This made me laugh out loud.

I'll be honest at admit i haven't handled a complaint in years, but when i do i like to think im fair..

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Quote from: TheWalrus on May 11, 2013, 02:22 AM
i remember a starlet from sfx maybe, dunno a scarlet though

canadian starlet was in Kiros clan, Ce

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Maybe Starlet was in Ce later on in her 'career', but I too remember her primarily from SfX. Think she was in GIT aswell. Welcome back tho Scarlet, we need some more girls around here

starlet was attractive too from her pics back then.  nice game there, even spalding was in that game.  i love my man spalding.

Indeed she was, i think she sent me a picture, we used to br and bng loads! She got married 

There is a lot of potential for abuse and trolling tho.

#noob @breeze

But it could also be useful for search and notifications, in businesses you don't get the abuse problem as everyone acts professionally when using it... Just something to consider tho!

I wanted to put a suggestion through of hashtags and @mentions in the forum. Is there anyway that these could be created to send notifications if a username recieves an @Username and also we could search forums and comments on popular hashtags.

If anyone of you have used salesforce chatter in business this is a really good feature for social enterprises.

how about the w:a equivalent of vp?

I'd like to join ea.

I've enjoyed playing elite for a very long time and its all i know how to do

I want to sign-up to the championship by accepting all conditions and rules. I will do my very best to make every game possible and I won't quit it before the end. I will be fair and will respect any other participants and also the moderators.

By Chicken23

ps. Im inactive and not in ea. However i finish my diploma in a couple of weeks and with my limited free time i'd like to start warming up and compete.

Hey, i recently starting brewing my own "hic", just wondering if anyone else has done this? I've now got 40 pints of ale sitting in my kitchen!

Im so disappointed with the rope knocking. SPW and others are right. Elite is the prefect league scheme and nothing was broken. I for one will not be hosting an elite in anything goes so that rope knocking isn't able to work and will host my defaults in PartyTime.

Really disappointing decesions from TuS.

I won't even go into some of the other changes, but shotgun in bng has just given a huge advantage to the already problematic notching epidemic.

This is the first year in worm award history for me to not win best clan leader and happy to pass the crown to avi. Congratz on that dude. Hopefully myself and CKC will be back in the not to distant future.

Peace

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Quote from: Chicken23 on February 03, 2013, 01:05 PM
If you google 'worms' right now T17 is number one, which is impressive that it beats wikipedia for the actual earth worm definition.

It's not. Maybe only for you, because you visit team17 forums, and Google is smart

And of course we should promote W:A, but without a competitive league people won't take it serious.

Indeed. Its personalized the results! There is a competitive league though.. so i guess its demonstrating that to people..

I know people who play COD and think worms is a joke and i've tried to argue with them how worms requires afar greater skill set than first person shooters.

Go to google trends and enter 'worms armageddon'

There is a massive decline in search volume over the past 10 years but look it still exists, if you go to the adwords tool you can get a guess of monthly search volumes on a global scale.

Think about PR, having people write articles on w:a that explain the dynamics and depth of learning the game, how their is a learning curve that takes years to master and make comparisons between popular online games. See if you can pitch these articles to online industry publications. This would great some nice brand awareness around worms and benefits T17 as well. If these articles are displayed online then you've got some potential for some great inbound link juice which will improve the site authority of TUS. If you google 'worms' right now T17 is number one, which is impressive that it beats wikipedia for the actual earth worm definition.

Ask yourselves what are you promoting? Are you promoting TUS or W:A?, if its the later then you'll wanna direct potential new players to an area where they can purchase the game.

You guys considered any digital marketing strategies to help bring traffic to a site and create awareness around wa? Remember SEO and social media is all free.

I'd be happy to talk about certain things, first find your customer persona's. Im guessing 'existing online gamers' and 'older demographic groups who remember the retro series' come to my mind first.

Quote from: Mablak on January 21, 2013, 12:07 PM

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I think I was Pure when I was in your clan Wally.. honestly been too long. Read your "politics display" on the forums.
Socialism/higher taxes and the like are discussed often, but the amount of detailed dialogue intrigued me. I read almost all of it.
This is a very hot topic in the US. I'm a business owner and investor in Washington state, paying extremely
high taxes while making nothing(if not taking losses) And yes, It's confusing.
I personally am surprised to see the differ of opin, between Mablak and Wally and others. Given,
it was about 10 years ago that I had conversations with the two, but I would regard these
individuals to have intellectual authority.  I remember Mablak explaining
the Smashing pumpkins to me following which I purchased 4 albums. And many conversations. Smart kid. and heated debates with Wally when we started a clan with Anubis... so

Nonetheless people really need to get a better scope on why capitalism works. The problem is that people see money as a pie graph. they think that if one person gets wealthy he takes from the pie. but wealth is something that grows. the pie is always changing in size. I can remember believing, as a child, that if a few rich people had all the money, it left less for everyone else. Many people seem to continue to believe something like this well into adulthood. This fallacy is usually there in the background when you hear someone talking about how x percent of the population have y percent of the wealth. If you plan to start a startup, then whether you realize it or not, you're planning to disprove the Pie Fallacy.

What leads people astray here is the abstraction of money. Money is not wealth. It's just something we use to move wealth around. So although there may be, in certain specific moments (like your family, this month) a fixed amount of money available to trade with other people for things you want, there is not a fixed amount of wealth in the world. You can make more wealth. Wealth has been getting created and destroyed (but on balance, created) for all of human history.

Suppose you own a beat-up old car. Instead of sitting on your butt next summer, you could spend the time restoring your car to pristine condition. In doing so you create wealth. The world is-- and you specifically are-- one pristine old car the richer. And not just in some metaphorical way. If you sell your car, you'll get more for it.
In restoring your old car you have made yourself richer. You haven't made anyone else poorer. So there is obviously not a fixed pie. And in fact, when you look at it this way, you wonder why anyone would think there was.
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The people most likely to grasp that wealth can be created are the ones who are good at making things, the craftsmen. Their hand-made objects become store-bought ones. But with the rise of industrialization there are fewer and fewer craftsmen. One of the biggest remaining groups is computer programmers.
A programmer can sit down in front of a computer and create wealth. A good piece of software is, in itself, a valuable thing. There is no manufacturing to confuse the issue. Those characters you type are a complete, finished product. If someone sat down and wrote a web browser that didn't suck (a fine idea, by the way), the world would be that much richer.

Ryan (myself) fits the category (craftsmen) I build and remodel homes. then I pay taxes for more than the value of the home I created.. so understanding how people that won't just make wealth for themselves seem to think rich people owe them something?.. No f@#!ing way. I don't give the US even a glimmer of hope in the same way I wouldn't give Greece one either.
Debt doesn't work. It's really that simple.
Wally if you're around we should chat. I'm not sure if I'm going to buy worms again :x
(sorry about the rant) for those who are easily offended

Joe, yes its been at least 8 years. I know cuz I broke my WA cd 8 yrs ago
Does our favorite little over-zealous computer gamer Alex still exist?

Hah, what's up Pure? I thought you were one of those wormers who was lost forever! Glad to see WA and its denizens still haunt your memories. I remember the good old days when all that mattered in WA was roping, ahh so much fun back then, I was still learnin' ropes from the greats like yerself. It's awesome that you have your own business, and unfortunate that you're paying more taxes than you should. I'm just making music right now while I'm inbetween jobs, a bit entrepreneurial as well, though who knows if I can ever make a living off of it. I agree with you that money doesn't mean anything in itself, and I'd take what you say further, by replacing 'wealth' with happiness, or well-being, since that's really what makes wealth important in the end:

"What leads people astray here is the abstraction of money. Money is not happiness. It's just something we use to move happiness around. So although there may be, in certain specific moments (like your family, this month) a fixed amount of money available to trade with other people for things you want, there is not a fixed amount of happiness in the world. You can make more happiness. Happiness has been getting created and destroyed (but on balance, created) for all of human history."

So yeah, wealth, happiness, well-being, none of these are fixed, and we can engender greater levels of each by building a better society, it's not a fixed pie graph. But your argument doesn't imply that wealth, happiness, etc. can't or shouldn't be shared by people. The significance of the huge wealth gap we face today is not the fact that money is so unequal, but the fact that it directly implies that well-being is not being optimized for the majority of society. The point is that many people have the ability to alleviate suffering and increase the well-being of society at little cost to themselves, but fail to do so. Morally inefficient, you might call it. If this could be done voluntarily, and maybe one day it can, we would have no need for taxes, but as it stands, we need them to correct for our shortcomings.

I haven't read your political debates in the forums you guys have but even the posts you make here are well written and have points.

As for voluntarily sharing and looking for some utopian collective socialist mindsets to create communitarianism on a national scheme, it just won't happen in my opinion. It's part of our human nature to be greedy, (im not saying everyone is, there total selfless mindsets out there too) some people want more than they need. I think its right for the state that govern nations to enforce taxes so that we can create welfare states to support those who are born into unfortuante situations.
The questions that i studied when i wrote my dissertation was the degree to how much we tax, how much we support, and how much we should leave to free market economics to supply the welfare people may require (at a cost  ).. Adam smith's invisible hand and keynesianism economics and all that