No, I meant as a NEW scheme it would be ok and np for me, just don't remove hysteria.

I remember aerial, thought it would be simular. In my definition: Bigger Luck-Factor = Less skill

Just see what happens. You have more worms up and start. So you had not only a whole attack more if u won, ur game start with a too big advantage. If u r up u can attack almost every turn if u r good.

That 1 who is down is much easier to attack while for that1 who is down it is much more difficult to attack and to hide. You cant say it is always like that and always like that, it is just a very little factor of the whole scheme I don't like.

I'm not good at Jetpack so you cant compare my skill with the skill of pros. You always have to compare people on the same skilllevel.

Now look at the guy with more worms down who get - b4 his game starts. How shall he win? To counter his disadvantage he has 2 possibilities:

1) If you r on the same skilllevel as ur opponent, you cant win. So you have to hope that your opponent fails at least 2 turns.
2) You have to be much better than ur opponent, then it is like in every scheme except comet dodging: You will get a deserved victory.

To 2) In hysteria you just have to be 1x better than ur opponent to win.
in 3 sec scheme you can still lose if you r only 1x better than ur opponent because of too much unfair disadvantage.


But of c new ideas r always good and will be fun, too. I just tryed to say why I prefer the 1 sec scheme

Quote from: madog on July 08, 2012, 01:36 AM
Is it really hysteria if it's 3s turn time? I think u have invented a new scheme here, what do u want to call it?

Noobteria?

Nah joke, but it has almost nothing to do with hysteria. It is just a different scheme, if u try to compare it, it is like comparing a motorbike (fast, skillful, better reflexes, 1s) with a car (slower, comfortable, 3s, + muuuuuuuuuuuch more advantage if you start and if u have more worms at top).

I absolutely prefer flow and skill. Hysteria is good as it is, just improve your maps to get better games.

If you want to create a new scheme, np, but don't call it hysteria.

Hehe, nice post Peja

Quote from: Peja on July 08, 2012, 01:55 AM
but you wont use a nade to finish a game in elite when u have airstrike or missile left.

U know I would use a nade many times anyway (at least if I'm in a good mood and know I would hit that shot at least 2 of 3 times at first try)

In my opinion hysteria is one of the best schemes. It is fast fun and only boring if u play it with the wrong persons. Risk more and u wont have that long boring games. Many times the opponent failes and you can win in the next turn.

Or just play with people who dont like lame and boring games and who try style attacks when they lead...

Hysteria fits good into classic, if u r better at aiming and know the power you will win the most games, hysteria is skillful and has some tactics. Good people have more experience and do better things in all that different situations. And the best thing is, theres less luck than in many other schemes. It only sux too much if u have almost always the wrong wind or if u start with all worms down while ur opponent have all worms up.

In that case I suggest to just let the game end fast to not delay a too unfair game where u can only hide at side or darkside and wait many annoying turns and start hating this scheme.


Like I always say: Kill the lamer. They just create an so bad ambience and it is their fault if one of the best schemes gets a much worse reputation than it deserves!


The fun is the most important thing and if u have a game with many nice shots u'll like that game, too.

The best thing is to practise and improving skills. A skillful game with only little fails will be interesting, a lot of fun and nice to watch.

Ty RoH`Darkmaul, lacoste and Peja.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on June 23, 2012, 08:35 AM

That extra PO qualification was around before, it got reminded by DENnis in this thread. The thread itself is started by dub-c after we talked on snooper and pm.

Thank you for me mentioning me, nice that you remember that I talked to you about this, too (and about the "cup system" suggestions with the PMs here to you and DarkOne ).

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on June 22, 2012, 05:51 PM
I'm planning to code some additional requirement for PO and scheme medals: The player must have played n games versus x top players in that specific season.

This sounds good. If the avoiders and lamers have to play vs good people, too, they will probably lose more games which means they have to play a bit more if they want to reach the POs and more activity is always good.


All your money, time and effort you put on this site and for Worms Armageddon just shows that you love quality and to improve TUS. I think everybody should be proud of you and this site, which keeps WA very active.

I'm just happy that you listen to us and our suggestions and realize so many of them.


Thank you very much, MonkeyIsland!


Edit: Insert quote.

Good job, Gabriel!

I'll practise some BigRRs and Towers with you before your next finals, then your chances to also win a next session are getting bigger

And I wanna practise Bungeerace a bit more ... (After a good start I get always stuck somewhere too long and then like nothing worx ^^, my rule is pathetic b4 concentration then XD)

Quote from: Riviva on June 22, 2012, 06:09 PM
dennin are you really have 23 years old? You look at this picture for 16

Ty, Riviwi, I want to look young
I'm about 23 years old, true and on 2012-July-17th I'll become 24 years old

This was ur pick. I picked elite twice.

Anyway, u improved a lot and this was a high quality game, gj.

Quote from: Wolfgang on June 17, 2012, 03:12 AM


but sebha isnt tdc now xD

ah gj ^^

yeah, I meant in the past when he was still in, we couldn't clanner so much in the last weeks anyway

lol, but nah .. the most clumsy reporters by far are both from tdc

Just take a look at all that Dead (TWD) and sebha report fails. Really pejathetic XD

Quote from: franz on May 15, 2012, 10:26 PM

Quote from: barman on May 14, 2012, 11:11 AM
barman parachuterace battlerace bungeerace / dennis bigrr

Forgot about these?

hmm that is very weird, those games do not seem to show up on the playoffs bracket at all: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/free-playoffs/?s=11  yet they are clearly labelled as playoff games.

I guess that happened because I had to upload a fake-replay so that MI could replace it and upload my over 2 MB BigRR victory which I couldnt upload because of the maximal filesize.


For me it still says "report.." and not "show results"

Quote from: DarkOne on June 15, 2012, 06:24 PM
I suppose the killing-Chelsea-with-a-bat thing gave him that idea, fr4nk.

The big question is here is how far you want to make this avoiding rule go. Thing is - if they want to win a season, they're gonna have to play against the good clans anyway or they're out.

But without all that noobbashing and avoiding there would be only/more fair people in the Play Offs.

It would work if TUS program it like u have to play minimal 1 out of 7 games vs a simular ranked guy (maximal vs. some1 where the noobbasher would only get -45 points, that would mean he has to play vs. some1 who is on a simular skilllevel)

Like that or even a bit harder would mean u cant do 20 games in a row vs an absolut beginner if u r like "highly competent".

Just a little filter so that no more 15-0 noobbashing in a row is possible.

Oh oh, I hope nobody opens a new "luck in Roper" topic 


Just in case, I'll post the facts again. Everything of that is provable (and correct, I just laugh about angry kids who miss the point and will start senseless offtopic )

Quote from: DENnis1.

There are only very few schemes which are luckfree (Schemes where is no luck included if you use the right maps and no chute).

The only luckfree schemes are: ttrr without chute, SuperSheepRace, BungeeRace on maps without pixelwalls, BoomRace on maps without pixelwalls, Golf on no pixelmaps, BigRR without chute and Tower Race without chute. In every scheme you can still have a big advantage if you know the map much better than your opponent.

All other schemes including luck - which should be (in the theory and mainly) no problem because WA should create games where both get 50 % bad luck and 50% luck. This works not in every single game, it gets only close to it at the overall when you played very many games.

Very important to say is, that THE LUCK ALONE DOES NEVER DECIDE A GAME, because none game can be perfect and there's almost always a chance for a comeback or that the opponent fails. Even with an advantage you still have to rope / handle safe and concentrated to do less fails than your opponent to win.

Like I said the luck can't decide the game directly. A real noob would never beat a real pro. Luck only creates unfair advantages where you can counter with tactic and skill. If that's not enough because the opponent is on the same skilllevel like you, the advantage could create a not 100% deserved victory for your opponent, so the luck can decide the game indirect. For sure that person who got an advantage (because of luck) has more chance to win the game. But that's like real life ... Just don't give up and let the past be past. Your luck will come back sooner or later, so just keep playing games and you will see that you will get some advantages sometimes, too.

+ Theres another way to get a lot of advantage ... Just practise a lot. + If you are very lame you use always the same map(s) to get the lame-advantage, too.

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Quote from: DENnis2.

Just think about sport:

Person 1 runs 5 km.

Person 2 runs 10 km.


The most people here just say: Sure, it is possible that Person 2 beats Person 1, although Person 1 has such a big advantage.

But if Person 2 would complain at tus because his way was longer many people here would say: No, you were just too slow, you started too fast and then failed (got exhausted too early, fall, shit in pants, died, or what ever).

And then a lot of people will say: WOOOOOOOOOOOOW PERSON 1, VERY GOOD JOB, you won because u just did less mistakes 

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Quote from: DENnis3.

Try to think about a game where a noob plays vs a noob. If both noobs r on the same skilllevel, that noob with 3 easy crates more (very easy crates = 3 safe attacks more while the opponent has hard / too hard crates and won't be able to attack that turns) could have enough advantage to win that game with less skill. If that noob with the victory in that cause would've got 4 harder crates (too hard crates = 4 attacks less) he would've lost the same game, although he has absolutely the same skill.

I know it by myself that the luck does not decide the games directly, for the detailed description you should read my first post here

Quote from: r3spect on June 12, 2012, 05:09 PM
if true iam kinda sad about chelsea behavior i promise guys i try talk with him

• Just look at his TRL: Hysteria - Session 8. He kept noobbashing like that 15-0 (90% "freewins"). So I asked him friendly for trl about every day for a week. He avoided to play vs me and other good players who would probably beat him many times, like Blinky and Komo. I already talked to MI while playing BigRR with him (Ty for that nice games btw) about that problem.
  Without that avoiding and all that noobbashing he wouldn't even come close to PlayOffs. Chelsea isn't that hard to beat and he knows it.
  
  
  



• I just remember Chelseas real cheating vs me when I was more nooby and new to tus (a long time ago ^^) in a wfw. 99% I had won. Then he cheated on purpose and teled to the top of the map without walking to a teleport, he was not even close to one and couldnt walk because I petroled him good.
  
  Ofc I couldnt attack him at top and he killed my worm by cheating ... He really uploaded that "cheated on purpose"-game.
  
  Well the game was void after people told me to start a complain and the mods said I can upload it as my victory, but I never did it because I was new at TUS and really hated all that cheating and lameness already.
  
  
  



• Without (sometimes funny) guys like Peja I would've probably start to avoid TUS (like many other freestylers do) because of cheaters like Chelsea.
  
  
  
• In that trl session I talked with Chelsea but he just admit that he's a lame avoider (so he doesn't even care about subsequent damages (for TUS for example) because of bad and pathetic behaviour like that).

Hey, my possible times to play r mainly:

In the week after work from about 8pm to 10pm gmt0
and at weekend it depends on girls and TV, but mainly the whole night, because I prefer to sleep over day and being nightactive (for fun things only, not for work ofc) XD