I never really got why he got such a bad reputation. Since I am visiting TUS Forums he has never really showed bad manner, or am I missing something? -182 for what? Not that this Karma thing is in any way a relevance to a person but it's just weird to see him go away as he truly likes the game and just wants to have fun. It's not like he's mocking people in game or what? :/

Well but tbh, with ratings and the like you can't just rely on basic math like 1+2=3 lol. I mean you know, there has to be something working in the background and it's just nothing wrong with it. I mean that's what the analyzer is for, just like avi says. Why should I do the math for the league? xD

In my opinion that only happens when the system isn't transparent. Like when I go into details of a game and can't rely on the information why I/Opponent lost/won his/her points. So as long as you can see WHY you lose/win those points it can be very complex and still easy to understand.

I think Mablaks system (or whoever invented it) sounds best for me, why should other people differ the rating of my opponent when we have never played/have already played. It makes no sense since the individual is the core key in a singles league. As for now it seems like everyone is playing against the good players since they suffer the most under these circumstances. People should always get the points they deserve vs. the one they played against, no matter what other games were played.

And a way to avoid playing the same people over and over would be to reduce the INDIVIDUAL rating of both after, say 10 games, so they gain less and less points to the point they just get way less point off a win.

Player A and B both win 10 games, so both are more or less around the same rating, now with game 11 the Rating of both get reduced to (1000 is the start) 750, so they will only gain 0,75. next game it gets reduced to 0,50 and so on to the limit of 0,25. Noone has to worry if they have maxed out games and can just enjoy playing eachother without harming the system in my opinion.

tl,dr.:

Mablaks Idea.

I also like this idea, I am myself a fan of random Maps, well RR of course it's different but people that are aware of this rule could just take a lot of RR maps and work them down 1-100 for example each Season. Not totally random but it would be good enough if you ask me.

Great idea, I'd definitely play that.

W:A forever!

Sure thing, we can play HoMM 3,4 and 5 + all Expansions, I just bought them for 15 Euro. =)

Soon HoMM 6 releases too!

It's really awesome that you guys invest so much time for the new league system, makes me kinda proud that there are still people around that put so much effort into Worms:A. I just wish I would get infected with the Worms virus again.

Quote from: Mablak on January 10, 2011, 04:32 AM

Quote from: Komito on December 23, 2010, 12:11 PM
Yeah but Mablak will get bored of TEL soon enough lol, ask anyone who knows him well, he always goes through phases like this, he'll probably even admit it himself

Actually I still find TEL interesting, I've never been that bored of elites. But I have been bored of ropers for years, just because the skill level can only get so high. I'd much rather just warm when I'm in the mood to rope.

That's what I have been doing for some years now, I just log in, have a warmer with a person I know and sign off until I am again in the mood to rope.
It's not really that crucial to not rope for some months in my opinion than not playing stuff like BnG/Elite I have lost more skill there. Though it was really funny when you and me both were in dt, I think we never lost 1 clanner.

Quote from: DarkOne on January 25, 2011, 06:29 PM
Problem is, some people vote for "me", some vote for MI, while others vote for MonkeyIsland. Some people vote for TUS, while others vote for The Ultimate Site and I can see this giving problems with automated votes A couple of people even voted for FlowingWater, while others voted for franz!
If you're too lazy to link a readily available link (which I highlighted) and copying the text, then you're also too lazy to vote otherwise Besides! You voted too!

Also, last time we had a page set up for voting, but I didn't want to bother anyone with doing that

ME used to be a player in the long gone clan DwI with Vantage, Novicane etc. Maybe ME is meant with me.

j/k. xD

I like the non-roping schemes a lot, hell I was in that one bng clan with Dw33b, al2cane etc. and it was pure fun, and I enjoyed the starComa time with lots of elite. But my heart has always been at roping, it's what got me hooked to Worms years ago. I also liked the Super Sheep games me and Cue had, I have always been open minded to the schemes, just think that I loved the older days more, maybe it's just the old mates I miss and can't adapt to that, they were thinking like me, all day long warmer. I remember I skipped a day of school back then to warm with my NBR buddies due to different timezones, lol.

Oh and another thing, I miss the prime of alias clans, qp and the like, it was just uber fun to guess who those guys were or trying to make your own ropeclan, it was just for fun but some people never realized that it was not to harm people when you make an alias.

Me, ropa and Animal had this one clan, something with Mole haha. And me and ropa made a roboter clan, just great memories with him. Or when him and me basically got ToP on our own into playoffs that one season, and then we moved to e5 with marco, thekrow... just awesome to remember that right now.

Since I started to play when roping was on it's prime I will always say the times back then were great and the best overall. Ropers or warmers were hosted all the time, you could always get a good game with someone on WN, be it for fun or a league game, I also think that DoN was actually good for activity, people that were specialized in 1 scheme and could get good stats. If you think about it cl2k/WL had WAY more games than FB simply because they allowed DoN, I bet the # of official league games were incredible high, they were just not reported because of DoN but I could get a league game late at night/early in the morning or whenever I wanted, there were WAY more americans/canadian and aussie players, they were 90% very good players and that is another reason for me why the popularity and quality of ropes has decreased so much.

Our beloved friends from america (and I include Canada here ) were die hard fans of the roping scheme. When I aliased during this time I picked the American flag, it was a flag of quality. I know there are currently non-americans out there that are very good ropers but to be honest the skill level from NBR will never be reached. Not because I think noone can do it, it's just that noone is left with a really high passion towards roping, people can just watch replays to see the best and coolest tricks. Back then you actually HAD to play with them to see the greatest roping tricks, and it was at a time where still tricks could be developed so people just played endless sessions of warmers together.

After re-reading that part it might sound rascist but it's not lol, to make it short...
The audience of Worms has changed, to make a comparison:if you liked Western Movies you will have a problem nowadays because they are not famous anymore, at least not in the way they used to be.

And yeah, for me personally W:A is dead, I like to read the forums or give input to topics that I still care about but the magic has left W:A a few years ago, it started with FB, I adapted to the new competitive way that came with individual scheme rankings and played many clanners since W:A was ALWAYS about the people you play with, not you vs. another, I don't like the 1v1 setup a lot.

Hey RoX, it's Anubis here but I am currently not really active but glad to see some more old faces back.

Shouldn't the thread then be re-named to respect vs. random? It still says Overall vs. Seasonal, majority of this is a challenge.