"There is nothing wrong with the Hysteria scheme, by the definition of the word "competitive", it is valid. "

Stop talking slack and prove it then...If you or anyone else can meet the challenge i posted and get 50 wins in a row then fine it is competitive from an objective viewpoint.

From a subjective viewpoint the game is very unfair. First of all what is so competitive with plopping your'e own worms n the start for worm select advantage ? Darksiding becomes extremlyeasy in hysteria because the worms are so incapable of doing anythign in 1 second.. Very often the games will linger on as one player has but 1 worm left..Where is the fun in that ? You can darkside in elite to but you have 20 seconds to do something in elite..You have greatly enhanced possibility to teleport somewhere/use rope/homing/airstrike/kami or something else in order to counter darksiders. You have a whole lot of choices and possibillities.

In BnG an aimbot can hit the opponent at anytime (Otherwise it counts as darksiding) What makes BnG interesting is our imperfections that prevent us from always hitting spot on. So eventhough i dislike BnG i will have to admit that it is a competitive scheme.

Hysteria was never meant for competitive gameplay..It was meant for funners and in a funner hysteria serves it's purpose..If the players are not interested in winning at every cost then they will not play lame.. But in a leauge when the players fight with blood and tears to win then it is another story and it will zap the fun away from the game..

So competitive hysteria is not fun...There are not enough skill elements involved....The playing field is to even in short...It is easy for a noob to just hide for 10 minutes or so...And then wait untill their less patient opponent exposes themselve.

Intermidiate is vastly diffrent from Elite you fool ! I would say that a combination of both would be the way worms is meant to be as in elite it can be hard to hit the foe well in merely 20 seconds but in intermidiate you got 45 seconds/WS..So Intermidiate is lightside favoured while Elite darkside favoured so mixing them for a balanced scheme would be interesting...

Wrong webbsites ? Are there other leauges oO ?

But what if a noob wants to play the best player posible and not another noob so he may move ahead towards greatness ? And are there really enough player to validate another client built for matchmaking ? 1 thing that could work is an event where a select number of players go into a leauge. And you get 3+ for a win 1+ for a draw and 0 for a loss..For example a 1 week long elite leauge and you can only play once vs the same opponent..Then the top 2 could duke it out in a showdown for the gold (Eventhough to be fair it wouldn't be needed but it would be awesome).

I personally think that a seperate topic should be created for matchmaking balance purposes..This one is focused on why Hysteria is such a horrid idea for a competitive leauge.

/Orville " Doubletime " Sebastian Nordström

i said " IF YOU WHERE" playing against whoever wants to play with you in AG " This means that you will basically be givven random opponents..But if you need to have more rules then that very well..

*You are not allowed to play the same opponent more than 5 times.

*You are not allowed to avoid anyone that accepts the challenge when you ask in AG and must pick the first player to write that they are interested.

*Tied games will not count and will not break the streak.

Now go out and get them ! Get 50 wins in a row with theese rules and then we can talk...

Try to get 50 + wins in tus hysteria by simply playing against whoever wants to play with you in AG..Just like you did when you got that winning streak on BnG.. If you can get 50 wins in a row that way then hysteria is indeed not a scheme dependant on luck (Eventhough it will still be a horribly agonizing experience)

If you can not get 50 + wins ? Then hysteria is not as luckless as you claim......And should be bannished to a seperate leauge..

What do you mean with balance anyways ? I know that hysteria needs to go in order to improve the skill required to prevail in the leauge...I would also think ressurecting intermidiate/luckless back while getting rid of shoppa is a good idea..

The best thing about hysteria is to immediately kill your'e first worm so you can telecow and repeat as your'e opponent will be sure to do the same.

The best thing about hysteria is the fact that all players have infinite teleports...You can run away forever ! (Or for a very long time).

The best thing with hysteria is when there are only 2 worms left from opposing factions that constantly darkside each other.. That is propably my favourite part !

The bet thing about hysteria is the fact that it is so hard to see if shopper/hysteria is indeed the worst classic scheme !

The best thing about hysteria is that everyone has a really good shot at winning...50 percent to be more precise. Everyone is equal when playing a game of hysteria <3.

Hysteria is such an excellent scheme ! It is propably one of the very best if not the very best scheme and it is definetly fit for a competitive proffesional classic leauge <3

Hysteria <3

HYSTERIA <3

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYSTERIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ! <3

If a noob met the best player in the entire world and played with said noob 50 times..Would it not be expected that he won every single game unless the scheme involved a significant chunk of luck ?

Intermidiate luckless does not hold any luck with this logic as Dario has mannaged to reach incredibly high winning streaks against intermidiate and advanced players on this very site while NNN was down. Therefore Intermidiate is essentially luck free even 1 on 1 in that sense. Ofc there is some ingame factors that are out of the players controll and may give one player good or bad luck (For example starting the game with bad starting positions.) So it is not truly luckless in a subjective way of analyzing it. But because the very best players have the abillity to go on winning streaks well beyond 50 in a competitive leauge playing with very good players the luck becomes very diminuative and thus is not a valid arguement as to why Intermidiate luckless should be used in a competitive leauge.

BnG is the same..As much as i really hate this bloody scheme Komo went on a winning streak well beyond 50 even well beyond 100.. This is because the luck part in BnG although present (Starting order and wind) Is insignificant. The luck part can not stop " the best player " and therefore is insignificant and can not be used as an arguement for why BnG should be removed.

When it comes to hysteria on the other hand... HAs any player ever goten a 50+ winning streak on it here in tus playing vs whoever is availible ? As far as i know this has yet to happend. That is because the luck is preventing the very best players from attaining such a winning streak. This is why those wicked noobs love hysteria.. It appears to demand skill but is just barely better than comet dodging in that regard.

<B>THIS is a proffesional classic leauge</B> and therefore i concur that some kind of standard should be enforced. If the majority of people voting would like coin tossing to be in the olympics would it be allowed ? OFC tit would be a joke !

So the large scores of noobs that are desperately crying in agony and fasting as a protest for hysteria to remain in classic should be ignored and shunned away. Monkey quality >>>>>>>quantity especially when the majority only holds as of now 57 percent of the votes.

Sure...Hysteria may very well be a fun scheme for simple people..BUT it should be in the free leauge or in a special hysteria/aerial leauge.The fools could go there while the quality of classic is greatly enhanced..Now if shopper would be removed in addition to intermidiate/luckless being added would make the classic leauge so much better..

Democracy is a bad way to rule a " proffesional " leauge Monkey..Huge scores of so easily manipulated fools can not produce something good. A wise leader or group who has a vantage point is going to have the abillity to make optimal descissions. SO unless someone can get atleast 50 wins in a row in hysteria while not noob bashing hysteria should be kicked out of the window. If you will truly base in on the dumb masses i will lose my respect for you...

I am also very dissapointed in you Komo..I expected you to have a wiser disposition.....

Sincerly..

/Orville "Doubletime" Sebastian Nordström

Incredibly stupid !

Anything less than 50 percent counts as a minority...

The good players who have a true passion for the game are in the " minority " albeit not a small minority.

The noobs want to have a chance at winning against the true players.

The noobs will then pick luckbased schemes in order to minimize the ammount of skill required to attain victory while increasing the ammount of luck that plays in..This is apparent in shoppa/hysteria and to a lesser extent T17 but NOT intermidiate. If the noobs wanted to have comet dodging in to increase their points would you allow that Monkey ?

The dP moto clearly states that 5 true members is better than 50 ok members... That mentallity should also reflect here..Should not 42 % true players with passion/cultivation for this game outweigh the garbage ?

What fool will favour 5 100 dollar checks over a grand 100 000 dollar check ? What fool would prefere 10 bottles of low quality whine from LIDL instead of 1 bottle of the finest, most exquisite 1912 red whine ? This demonstrates the 2 problems with democracy.

* Democracy clearly states that every person is of equal worth and deserves to vote.

* Democracy clearly states that every persons opinion is off equal value.

As an example...THe US drug problems..The wisest descission would be to legallize some drugs as alcohol counts as a drug as well/It will greatly enhance the quality of the drug thus making them less polluted and less dangerous/It will remove power from the black market and thus crimes done/ As shown in the past it will not create a surge in the number of drug users. One educated wise man could discuss this with a comittee and decide to legalize drugs thus obtaining the desired result but a wild ocean of those less educated fools will waver in opinion as puppets so easily manipulated the the mass media.. So tbe optimal descission may not be reached as it is " less populair "(OFC i would never, and have never taken drugs other than coffein).

Fools are so easily swayed by populairty. A salesman will be the most effectve by selling himself...NOT the product ! Having lesser people make the descission will thus bring us towards the optimal descissions. Often the fools will not understand that theydo not want a descission to be made or vice versa. some opinions should be valued higher.

For example i do not know much about alcohol..I have only purchased alcohol on one occasion. So i can not really state what kind of whine is best for what kind of food dish. Someone who knows alot about whine is more suited.

Likewise a noob that favours the luck of the draw instead of actual competition can not be taken as seriuosly as a player with a pure passion for the game and a great understanding of how it works. In order to see wheather or not hysteria should be kept we must select criterias for a " passionate true wormer " and then let them cast their votes. Since the gppd players do not want luck disrupting their winning streaks they will most likely opt to get rid of hysteria from the classic leauge ( While ressurecting intermidiate back to the classic leauge and also getting rid of shoppa)

This is what has been done.. I stand by my word.. The noobs should not raise their voice ! They should listnen...Follow so that they too may grow and move ahead towards maturity so they may gain abillity !

Sincerly your's...

/Orville Sebastian Nordström

I did indeed not realize that i had such an option Darkz..I am gratefull towards you for revealing this to me.

Nooo ! I pressed YES insteaed of NO..I thought the question was " Do you want hyst banned " ? And pressed YES without a second though... What a tragic misstake.....Please redeem my oh you great moderators of TuS !

How come nobody ever made a script to stop me during my reign of villainy ? I feel so dissapointed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_habPqaE0

Because i was to tired to see that the sinner hath been punished already.

SUch language and conduct is unacceptable..it is or should be way off limit imho..I recomend keelhailing and evisceration as suitable punishments for the foul language...I would also suggest binding them 12 hours, keepign their eyes open with ducttape and forcing them to watch justin biebers hits/documentary..but due to the state of their minds i suspect they owuld enjoy this..

I do miss being part of the most notorius WA comuniuty..but im working fulltime now so time is off the essence..