2 years i'm repeating at school and you try to convince me by maths. Your post look like a chinese message to me.

2 draws.. was so cool. Each time last worm drew.
And you want to remove draws. Just omg.
Soon if we dont finish the map the worm that did the longest round win HAHA
It was 3rd not my pick (dunno if its important xd)

ok artic is in

Cant put it out if nobody is here to remplace.
1 place open i guess then

DAMN IT I PRESSED CTRL A and a key all deleted 2 f@#!ING TIME..
Anyway i was saying :

HHC there is no 2 blocks to add. Its simple.
In 1v1, we always could agree before the game to play with milliseconds, nothing forbid it, so nothing to add in rules.
We just have to add something like : "In 2v2, if overall times are close to 1s, and one team ask for, you have to check replay, recalculate both times using the milliseconds. Once did, apply the usual rule and look both times stopping on seconds."

You have good points Shyguy.
I propose this :
1v1 : NO rules change.
2v2 : IF the time are close by 1sec, a clan can ask for miliseconds (no need to say it before the game ; between or after games still work) and :
- in case of a score like : 50.98 and 50.98 vs 50.00 and 50.00 ; which makes a total of 101.96 vs 100.00. We apply the usual 1v1 rule : 101 vs 100. Team 2 Win.
- in case of a score like 50.98 and 50.98 vs 50.00 and 51.00 ; total score is 101.96 vs 101.00. We apply RR 1v1 rule and its a draw.
Not fair yes i know its not physical low etc etc but we have doing this for ages looking only for seconds.

This adding rule is a rectification of the old rule that look only for second times, but here working 100% of times.

The thing is : People like me will never ask to check milliseconds. People like you will ask everytime.
And all the rest and the majority or people will ask to check miliseconds only if they think they have more chance to get a better time.
So yes, I get f@#!ed, and people that will never ask for replay will be f@#!ed too.
And in 1-2 years, we'll all ask for milliseconds, coz we'll be tired to be f@#!ed.

whats the problem with multi spaces

Quote from: Komito on June 27, 2012, 07:12 AM
If the rules of TuS for TTRR from day 1 were check time by MS, I am pretty sure everyone would be fine with it.

I don't find hiding on top in Roper or notching in BnG lame either, again, if everyone was doing these things from day 1, it would be fine.

Like Rene said, blame the map/schemes, and for me more importantly is the rules and people you play with.

I believe in a fair fight, and no matter what your opinion is the objective of a League is to win, not to have fun, you can try to have fun and not try to win, you can try to have fun and win at the same time, or you can do anything humanly possible within the rules to win.

All 3 options should be no problem for everyone to accept, I personally feel that it's rules of this League and the people who play and use/do certain things to get an unfair advantage, that is lame.

For example, if I was playing a TuS Classic 1v1 BnG against some guy who only joined TuS let's say, an hour beforehand, knowing full well that I could easily win 200-0 without notching or repeating, if I chose to use my notching abilities and repeat shots against the opponent, kill him in 6 turns or something, I don't think he would have a very good experience of the game, and even if he did enjoy it, I would still consider it lame because the guy probably thinks I am god or something and all I done was "notch" some 4s FP nades which is one of the easiest things on this planet to do...

But if I was playing Mablak, and we were both notching, both aiming to win, both playing within the rules, what's the problem? It's a really fair fight...

I'd hide on top in Roper against Mablak because we are both very good Ropers, and just securing our lead regardless or luck/mistakes.

I wouldn't really do it against a noob though, i'd showboat a bit and show him it can be fun while he learns to become pro, THEN he can play serious, or not, whatever lol.

If I was to play TTRR against Mablak, and I done 45.56 and he done 45.78 I would consider it as my greatest achievement in TTRR and I would be EXTREMELY pissed off if I had to play him again because some people around here just can't be assed checking a replay...

Shouldn't it be the main purpose of a League, to make sure everyone can enjoy equal competition? The rules make certain players able to get an unfair advantage over other players, regardless who feels what, this shouldn't be tolerated with being a League.

I am guessing anyone on Earth who for some reason suddenly decided they wanted to find out who the best players in the world are for Worms Armageddon, they would come to this very website to find out, because the best of the best play and compete against each other here seriously, if someone asked in #AG "What's the best League to play WA competitively?" I am sure everyone would answer "www.tus-wa.com" not "www.letsallnotgivvaf@#!aboutwinningatwa.com".

Edit: I honestly think, if you can't be assed checking a TTRR replay that takes 1 or 2 minutes, then you simply don't care enough about winning, and if this is true, you certainly shouldn't be wasting your opponents time who actually does take it 100% serious, maybe it's a tiny little bother to check replay, but think about your opponents who are innocently trying to be the best competitive players at this game...

You are literally choosing and holding your own agenda over the truth and reality, that is selfish.

Well you got a nice speech here. But i don't see what the paragraph of the best player of wa is doing here xD  Whats the link with rr times xD.

Mab the thing is that a lot of guys will say "lets check replay" only when they know they were close to 50.00 and their opponent close to 51.00 And the opponent, who doesnt care about millisecs, will be f@#!ed on every case like this, when he'd not say to check replay if he was the one close to 50
After some time everyone will check replay coz people womm get pissed of to be f@#!ed like this. Im sure its pretty much the same story that happened in bng when people started notch, or top hiding in roper. Some people started doing it and others were sick to be f@#!ed playing fair so they did it also.
Don't say its not true, im sure some people (i didn't say ALL people) learned notch and started top hiding in roper (and there is probably some others things like this i dont have in mind Edit : molotov block in shoppa) only because they wanted to win and they figured out its the only way they can against notchers/top hidding opponents.
Now it became normal.

What if ps play vs mm in clanner, we do 50.24 and  50.14 vs 50.00 and 50.00.
We absolutely dont know we won before looking replay, ps wants to make it a draw and mm wants to check replay.
What happen ?

Whats odd is everyone behaviour.

Seems pretty easy if on every roper game when u get an advantage thanks to a cr8, after this u hide only top so you are sure to attack every turn and win.
When you are 2v1 it's not same coz if you hide very well your opponent has a lot of chances to come back and win. So there its fair i guess.

Quote from: Mablak on June 26, 2012, 12:24 AM
This discussion has happened before, but I'm not sure why there's still no rule about it. We should add a rule allowing teams to judge times in RR by fractions of a second whenever they wish.

Whenever they wish means you choose ?

He also added we should get the rule for 1v1 AND 2v2 after.
And I rly don't care if i lose a game in clanner by seconds and had a better time with millisecs... As we don't see millisecs IN the game.Its so wrong.. You are last turn, you know you have to get some time to win, you do it, you r so f@#!ing happy, and then you lost coz of replay ? Hella bad.

Go on guys. Its a few days nobody has played now..