rofl at this hate! Beer is a good guy really, <3 bro xxx

To be honest they look pretty fair to me with the exception of the bottom group. Lots of good players participating. Maybe swap a couple of players from the bottom group into the other ones.

You can still mix up the draw Jakka, speak to MI or a mod!

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Nice testimony mate! As you said it only gets easier as time goes on, and it really isnt that much effort anyway! I personally preferred the e cig to traditional ones from the moment I tired it, so it was an enjoyable transition, no stress whatsoever. I hope your package comes soon!

I would love to see TUS take over the gaming world and for MI to become very rich!

huahuahua, nlf is the better, drug free choice! Theres no limit to what you can do drug free!

awwwwwww 8(((

Dont worry bonus, sR is an exclusive group, gotta be stoned 24/7 to join. You'll be better off without it 8 )

Mate I am chilled and grateful for your post because it allowed me to further talk about the benefits of e cigs.

BUT

You confuse me... I mean you pull me up on the greatest invention point, then rok pulls you up on it and you defend my original point! No worries man its all good debate.

komo m8: Why do you always have to find something to disagree on even though you generally agree with the crux of what im saying? Its kinda annoying because you can see I know what im talking about here. I wouldnt write anything I havent already justified or could easily justify in another post (like im doing now). You just wrote a few paragraphs on how great the e cig is as it allows people to smoke indoors and in public places without leaving any odour. The fact that the e cig allows smokers the freedom to get their nicotine anywhere they please without having to stand out in the freezing cold or pouring rain, that fact ALONE makes it an incredibly useful invention.

I agree with you, until longterm studies have been carried out (the e cig has only been around for the last 10 years) we cannot say that they are 100% safe. What we can look at are the tens of thousands of testimonies from ex smokers who look and feel a whole world better than they did before since giving up traditional cigarettes. Technology and human knowledge is far superior to what it was when cigarettes first came around, we generally already know what the long term effects of inhaling a substance will be. Have any ill effects of using E cigs been found in the 10 years of their existance? No, they havent. A 7 month study was carried out in New Zealand to investigate the effects of the inhalation of both propylene and vegetable glycol. Where any ill effects found? No.

Can we conclusively say that the device is 100% safe? No, not yet. Can we conclusively say that the device has been approved by the food and drug administration for human use? Yes. Can we conclusively say that e cigs are a safer, healthier alternative to traditional cigarettes? Yes we can. Can we conclusively say that a device that is UNDOUBTEDLY safer than traditional cigarettes, and a device that has enabled thousands of people to give up traditional cigarettes is one of the most useful inventions of the 21st century? Yes, we can, whole heartedly.

@ madogg: nice mate, enjoy your riva when it comes!

@ komo: yeh you can use them "anywhere", which is a good thing. I dont use it indoors or in public places often because I dont want weird looks and have to explain what it is im smoking. It does look like you're smoking and its better to respect people who dont want to be around "smoke" (even though it isnt smoke). I have used it in more lively indoor places like clubs and pubs, its a fun novelty and a good talking point! When im out I actually smoke my e cig less then I did normal cigs, which is good!

@ breeze: Ignorant, unjustified opinion. If you're gonna make brazen statements like that at least support your opinion with evidence and reason. Sure, giving up completely is obviously the best thing to do although as Im sure you're already aware, this is far more easily said than done. Many people try to give up by either going cold turkey or with patches and find that they simply cant do it (Ive tried and failed to give up smoking many times). E cigs have enabled thousands of people to quit normal cigs with ease (with EASE). There are also many people who still want to enjoy the sensation of smoking yet dont want to endanger their health of the health of others. E cigs allow people to do this (good thing ye).

Bottom line is this. Giving up smoking is a very hard thing to do for most people. E cigs not only make the process of giving up traditional smoke easy, they also make it extremely enjoyable. You already have 3 people in this thread talking from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE about how well these things WORK and how they have improved their quality of life. Its no overstatement to say that the e cig is one of the most useful inventions of the 21st century and there is no doubt whatsoever that it DOES and COULD help many thousands of people to give up a filthy habit.

Pretty stupid comment breeze. You should note this information is for people who WANT to quit smoking or transfer to a healthier alternative. If YOU dont want to quit right now, good on you, greetz son, nice work pal, clap clap, clever doggy. This information is intended to help those that DO want to quit and have struggled with other ways of quitting, you get that yeh? Understood?

yeh dog get the ego! Its widely considered the best on the market, worth the few extra pounds!

So far ive only bought liquids from Liberty Flights, ive tried quite a few though and would recommend these:

Fruits/Others (ive tried almost all of them)

- Lemon (citrusy and refreshing)
- Red Energy (just like red bull)
- Vanilla (lovely)
- Cappuccino (best coffee flavour)
- Green Tea (refreshing and authentic)
- Coconut (delicious bounty flavour)
- Chocolate Cream (best chocolate flavour)
- Kiwi (tangy)

Tobaccos (not tried as many as the fruits, but found these to be delicious)

- French Pipe (defo favourite tobacco flavour so far)
- Winston (nice)
- RY4 (pleasant)

I dont know how much you know about PG and VG liquids, but there is a very noticeable difference between them. VG liquids tend to produce a thicker vapour than PG liquids however the flavour is lessened. I would recommend you buy PG liquids first and then on your next order get a few VGs so you can see the difference. If you start to mix your own liquids (which is much cheaper) then you will learn about using a mix of PG and VG for the best of both worlds. I havent started mixing my own yet but I've found that on their own I prefer PG liquids. What you can do is buy a 5ml bottle of a flavour in PG and another in VG, then mix them together to get a fuller vape! Another thing is the nicotine content. The higher the nicotine content the more it overrides the flavour. I buy 8 and 14mg bottles, serves me just fine.

I spend around £20 on liquids every 2 to 3 weeks. Considering a pouch of tobacco would cost me £4 and I would buy 3 in a week you can see already that its cheaper. There is always a 15% code available for LF, make sure you use it every time! Keep an eye out for the 0mg bottles as you can try out a flavour for about a quid, bargain!

Glad to see you're already looking into this mate! Even if this thread converts only one person, thats mission accomplished. For those of you neglecting this information or not looking into it, do it now. Once you have this thing you'll wish you did it sooner!

the votes came in a yes bro, you made it! Welcome to the clan! add sR to your nick in AG!

its a yes bro, welcome to the clan!