That's cool Sensei, I appreciate you owning up to that and hope there's no hard feelings, we're on the same side and I've always got your back if anyone treats you unfairly or tries to cheat against you. You know what lengths I'll go to help anyone against cheaters.

And there you go, your last sentence is actually a great idea! We should add a section to TUS with a list of forbidden programs, tools, software, etc.

If we locked the thread when you said, that idea wouldn't have be shared!

Quote from: Sensei on March 22, 2025, 06:42 PMAll I've said is that j0e explained the situation very well and nothing more needs to be added. Imo (if I have the right to have an opinion, Komo!?), this thread should've been locked after j0e's post. But sure, go on

Exactly, you're sitting there making a statement that everything that could possibly be said has already been said, and nobody else that exists on this planet could possibly have anything useful to provide to the conversation, which is tyranical and delusional.

Why should the thread be locked? This is a healthy discussion about cheating and like I said there are others who may come along and wish to add to this and educate us all further.

I'm actually surprised you of all people are even suggesting to lock a thread like this considering how you reacted after Shtaket cheated against you in the Big RR Tournament and the fuss you made about it. I would have thought you'd want to do absolutely anything and everything possible prevent it from happening again.

Not to mention that everything joe said isn't even correct, regarding the wooting comment specifically:

"Wooting/fancy keyboards that have an intermediate stop on the spacebar, so a half-actuation presses space once, and a full actuation presses twice, are a grey area."

I have 2 wooting keyboards, the 60HE and the 80HE, I've even done lengthy reviews about both showcasing all their features and abilities.

You can't have it working in that way, you can have 2 separate buttons working that way, but not space twice in a row because he completely missed the part where the spacebar must be released before pressing it again.

So not only is your comment tyranical but you're actively supporting misinformation.

And don't take this personal Sensei, all I care about is the truth because I take cheating VERY seriously.

Quote from: XanKriegor on March 22, 2025, 03:14 PM"Need no..." isnt equal to "i forbid".

I never said it means "I forbid". I specifically quoted what you said, and gave you the definition of the word that is key in what he said.

It's like people here constantly use words and phrases and don't even understand what it actually means, and when someone tries to educate them, they go off the rails lmao.

Anyway to get back on track of the subject of the thread, this is aimed at Sensei, we'll talk about this as much as we want for as long as we want.

Quote from: Sensei on March 22, 2025, 08:52 AMAm I missing something here? Still waiting for you to tell me where did I say people shouldn't have their opinions and be allowed to speak.

Yes, you are missing something however I'll walk you through it quickly:

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 02:47 AMYou said it all man. Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

You specifically said "Subject needed no further discussion after this post."

The word "need" means - "a requirement, necessary duty, or obligation"

For example, humans NEED air to breathe, humans NEED water to survive, we cannot survive without it. Our planet NEEDS the Sun, etc.

Your words imply other people have a requirement, necessity, or obligation to speak no further in the post, simply because you dictated so.

So I came here to tell you that I disagree and explained why.

Quote from: Sensei on March 22, 2025, 08:52 AMStop with prejudices and assumptions. Doesn't look good

Here's the thing, on my side there have been no prejudices or assumptions, just a solid grasp of the English language and facts with evidence provided. You are the one who made the mistake.

I've explained this to you so that you understand it in future, I'm trying to help you improve. You never know when this knowledge may prove useful to you.

Quote from: sock on March 21, 2025, 10:27 PMAHK scripts use a faster response like the woot, yet they are considered cheating? Anyway it wasn't clear to me and some others that these scripts are considered cheats. I've used them in tus games 7 months ago and wkpin some weeks ago.I wasn't even aware wkPin and AHS were considered cheating until a few weeks ago after I looked it up with tus search

AHK scripts are nothing like the wooting. Do some research.

I didn't realize you're a cheater, or were a cheater. Either way it's your own fault for not doing research before using software/hardware.

I really didn't expect you of all people to turn out to be a cheater, wtf is happening in this community now.

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 04:26 PM

Quote from: TheKomodo on March 21, 2025, 02:13 PMSo anyone else that has an opinion or comment shouldn't be allowed to have their say? I wholeheartedly disagree.

Where did I say someone shouldn't be allowed to speak or have an opinion?
Would like to be informed when you find that part of my post.

   

No problem, here:

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 02:47 AMYou said it all man. Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

It would be amazing if you could either:

1: Remember what you said.
2: Understand what you're actually saying.

Quote from: sock on March 21, 2025, 08:01 PMThe wooting keyboard and further updated keyboards might be considered cheating by some, should we ban you forever?

Who cares what other people think, as long as it doesn't break the rules of the competitive environment you're competing in.

If anyone has a problem with that, tough diddies.

If it ever became officially considered cheating, then I simply wouldn't use it. Either way I'm not a cheater, I always abide by the rules and the rules are more important than peoples feelings.

Quote from: Kradie on March 21, 2025, 02:27 PMI wonder if in time the majority here will think it is ok to cheat in a online multiplayer game in the future though. So far only 2 people think it is ok. Kind of baffling if you ask me.

Personally speaking, I always have and always will think cheating is for cowards and anyone who cheats should be dealt with swiftly and severely.

However, I am actually open to changing rules about what is and isn't cheating as long as the playing field is balanced and fair for everyone.

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 02:47 AMSubject needed no further discussion after this post.

So anyone else that has an opinion or comment shouldn't be allowed to have their say? I wholeheartedly disagree.

At the end of the day "cheating" is subjective to the rules that whoever is in charge decides to implement.

One day all of the above might be considered legal, one day things that are currently legal may be illegal, so it's best to keep conversations like this open because as time flows everything changes.

Besides, these things are interesting to talk about, someone might come along and educate us further.

Quote from: angus on March 13, 2025, 12:23 AMSo zippo roping  was like this man play guitar

No, because that guy can actually play the guitar that fast and control it flawlessly lol.

Quote from: angus on March 12, 2025, 02:37 PMZippo was using that script really well in my opinion.

From what I seen he was useless with taps, he couldn't control them, he was like that fast skater in the mighty ducks who goes really fast then slams into the wall.

He was much better when he didn't spam the spacebar and controlled his tapping.

I didn't realize he was using a script though, looked more like fingerroll spam to me.

 

Albino Vs chuvash
tita Vs MaStEr

If you guys manage to organize your games in advance I'd like to stream them, these will be 2 beautiful games!

My guess is they are using Nizikawa's tool assist wk module, it's not as good(or safe from what I've heard) as the official TA that Deadcode made but it gets the job done roughly.

What's going on here? The deadline has passed.