Our BnG was played before their BnG

Sorry for late report.

This is not a BnA map, can it be removed from the BnA section please.

This is not a Forts map, can it be removed from the Forts section please?

Evening. 

After the success and great feedback of 80hp recently with Tournaments and a Cup, could we start a test season with the scheme in TRL?

Cheers!

Here are the planned Cups we will be hosting and streaming, starting from when CWT 2021 ends:

$150 2v2 Elite Cup

$150 2v2 TTRR Cup

$150 2v2 Aerial Cup

We are undecided what order we will be hosting these events, though we'll try to accommodate for most timezones as best as we can!

You are welcome to donate to increase the prize pool and support any event you desire, though of course it is not a requirement.

Can't wait to see all you beautiful people take part!

All events will be streamed live at - https://www.twitch.tv/komito8220

***DISCLAIMER***

This map and it's creator cannot be blamed for development of carpal tunnel syndrome in Worms Armageddon players. Terms & Conditions apply.

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You might like this if you enjoy challenging crates in Roper!

Feature suggestion - The ability to mark posts as read, without having to read them, in order to get rid of the "new" icon.

oldsock and I have the same position though my time is 0.02s faster.

Memox played, not oldsock, sorry.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-228252/

"I forgot telecow was legal here i wont ever play hysteria again but at funner"

Stoner, you have it back to front. When you host a funner Hysteria with house rules, you should be saying "Piling is illegal here because we are using house rules."

You make it sound like Hysteria actually has rules by standard, and that TUS has an altered version with no rules.

When people host Hysteria, and don't specifically state they are using house rules, people can do anything they want and it's ignorant to treat them with disrespect because they are following the scheme properly.

"Telecow" is a house rule made up by people who are uncomfortable playing Hysteria in it's standard form. Those house rules degrade the level of skill and strategy that balances out luck based on random positions.

The classic and most commonly used Hysteria scheme back in the day has NO RULES, so it's impossible to "cow", and since "cow" means you broke a rule, "telecow" makes no sense.

Just to repeat that, the standard scheme has no rules, it's the version with added rules which is the alternate version.

For more information, visit:

https://worms2d.info/Hysteria

@MonkeyIsland.

There are some things on TUS that don't exist, or i've been unable to figure out how to do. I'm wondering if you can make these possible in the new TUS website.

Viewing the first ERA of TUS:

For now, I have to type in a specific URL that you gave me. I cannot for the life of me actually navigate there through the TUS system.

For example, I can't find the old TRL standings, and can't figure out what to type as the URL. Yesterday Korydex linked me to - https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/TRL-standings/rTTRR/ - Which you would guess was a TTRR season, although it was showing the last season which was ZAR.(Though weirdly enough that's working now, did you fix that since yesterday?)

It would be nice if older archives were simple to find and navigate.

Old awards:

Currently I can only view the "TUS Awards - 2016" via the "Awards" link. What happened to the older award pages? Do those still exist?

Filters for viewing old games:

From time to time, I like browsing some players profiles and watching old games.

I'd like to search a players game history by a single scheme, or single season, or single league(HAL/TRL/TFL/TEL/etc).

Filters for comparing players against each other:

Also, from time to time, I like comparing players against each other, it would be nice to be able to select 2 players and compare them against each other in different ways, for example, select 2 players, and a single scheme. See who done better in a single scheme and be able to see which players they both played.

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I have a feeling things may already exist, they are just very challenging to find without instructions or direct links.

44:26 - Shot of the season!

People keep saying Aerial is part of Allround League now, though in the list of schemes it still says only Free, and in the Standings it's listed under both Allround & Free.

I saw a post from Senator:

https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-general/allowed-modifications-to-league-schemes-33266/msg279027/#msg279027

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

I have been thinking a lot recently about the condition of this League and it's potential future, the current boost of activity and trying to use and amplify that boost to further increase and improve website activity in all areas.

Also, i'd just like to take a moment before proceeeding to mention and appreciate the immense jump in activity recently:

• Clanners are alive again! - Multiple clans have been very active recently and it's actually exciting again!
• Singles are also popping off again!
• For both of the above, both TUS Allround League and TUS Free League have been sharing a lot of activity and enthusiasm.
• AQUA won their first ever Clanner and their reaction was f**king heartwarming! That was actually awesome to see after 22 years people can still react like that!
• New Challenges are being created, old records being broken and new ones being made!
• Cups are seeing a lot of activity and effort recently!
• The 80hp Tournaments were very successful and I plan on making more Tournaments for other schemes such as TTRR, Elite, and others.
• Not to mention Mablak and RuffledBricks are representing our entire game by smashing speedruns in Deathmatch and Missions! Gratz guys!
• Last but not least, thanks to Deadcode and CyberShadow because the 3.8+ updates are as huge a step for me personally, as the very first update with replays and colour maps.

I don't care what anyone says, Worms Armageddon is popping off again right now, and it's awesome!

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With that being said, the following is purely restricted to TUS Leagues, it has absolutely no relevance to TUS Cups, TUS Tournaments or TUS Challenges.

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Can we use whatever settings we want for TUS Leagues now?

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A Tower Race was played with 35s instead of 40s:

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-228018/

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In Roper, I often ask for extra hotseat time on complex maps so you can plan your route with the most challenging crates.

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Big RR and Tower Race should have separate schemes anyway, Big RR doesn't need teleport, both schemes directly benefit from having anti-sink enabled so players can play with 1 worm, instead of 3-4. As well as Tower Race having teleport on top of anti-sink.

In fact, if you actually browse the official page of scheme rules on TUS you are going to be quite shocked:

Quote from: Big RR/Tower RulesBig RR / Tower
Scheme for Big RR / Tower Race

RacingStuff must be activated before starting the game (using /rs command).

Rules:
- 3 worms at start (if the map doesn't have plops, 1 worm is fine)
- Rope from Start to Finish.
- The player who reaches the finish with less turns wins. If you finish on the same turn, the remaining turn time decides.
- If you plop, then use teleport to place where you started the last turn.

https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/rules/

So literally every Big RR has been played with the wrong scheme, at least for a very long time, as it says it must be played with 3 Worms at start.

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The clan 'ob' requested us('db') if we would agree to play ZaR Roper, is that actually allowed? If ZaR is allowed, why isn't 80hp allowed instead of Intermediate, ZaR is completely different to Roper, as is 80hp to Intermediate.

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Quote from: Official BnG Rules
Stay on your half of the map

This is not followed strictly enough to be honest.

Quote from: Official BnG Rules
If you break any of the rules mentioned above, you have to do the same damage to yourself as you previously inflicted.

Has anyone ever actually tried dealing an exact damage to themselves as they done to their opponent? Even for me it's close to impossible unless it was a sitter.

I think we can improve this rule.

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I think a few TFL schemes need reworking as well, for example Forts feels very unbalanced, saying "No Big Maps" so that means anything bigger than 1920x696? Because of such a small size map, having 2 HHG and a Banana Bomb is highly OP, it's unbalanced as a scheme although it's fine if using bigger maps. Also sudden death feels like it comes way too quickly in Forts, 12 minutes? For an artillery scheme? Really?? I know Hysteria has like 10 seconds though that's based on turns missed or something and can theoretically go on for hours?

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As much as I love it, Darts is an absolute mess considering how much the scheme relies on carefully designed maps with different map-specific rules, I wish there was a way to simplify it. So this comes with so much rule breaking related to correct connection and launching points, and other map-specific rules.

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The Kaos rules could be clearer, although the scheme itself has victories per match set to 3, it doesn't actually say Best of 5 in the scheme description, that would help.

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Bungee Race could benefit from having anti-sink enabled, otherwise if you plop do you instantly lose? There is no rule about it, although players generally host again and teleport to their previous positions, anti-sink would help speed up the process making it more efficient.

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How flexible are we allowed to be with TFL(TUS Free League) compared to TAL(TUS Allround League)? Are we looking at TFL as being less important than TAL therefor people can pretty much do whatever they want there?

I haven't really looked at other schemes yet, i'm sure there are other players with their own questions.

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I'm not fussed what TUS staff allow and don't allow, i'm just looking to be aware of what can and cannot be done. If we're allowed to make modifications there's some i'd love to apply myself and I know for a fact others would love that too, the evidence is already here in games which have already been reported and requests to use variations.

The whole thing is challenging to control because TUS has grown more than I think any of us ever imagined, there are 32 schemes, 11 Allround and 21 Free. With that many schemes it's pretty much expected people are going to have their favourite variations, so should we just start letting people use whatever scheme modifications they want so long as Playoff matches are strictly the official League Schemes with absolutely no modifications allowed?

Of course we're not talking play Roper and report it as Elite, it has to match the fundamental ideas of the original scheme:

• So Big RR with rubberworm enabled, or Big RR with infinite time and play as a time trial, or Big ZaR RR, or Big RR with 30s and Banana, i'm happy with all these because the basic fundamental idea is still there - Race from start to finish on a huge map.
• TTRR, use however many worms you want, measure in seconds or milliseconds, use rubberworm, whatever, the fundamental idea is still there - Get from A to B faster than your opponent.
• 80hp or Intermediate, or the actual original Intermediate with crates, the fundamental is still there, use a combination of strategic skills and mechanical skills to outplay and outthink your opponent.

^^ So long as 2 opponents agree, and only IF they agree.

Perhaps, what if, and i'm fantasizing here... We allow these variations, and whichever variation is used most in a season, becomes the official playoff version for the next season? Stop things from becoming stale, adds some spice and variety to the game, and less people will feel left out!

Of course, MonkeyIsland may yet implement the idea that was suggested recently for the new league concept with pre-curated filters and would fix this issue anyway.

2v2 TUS not Clanner.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-227991/

TTRR not Roper

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-227986/

TUS 2v2 not Clanner.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-227989/

Oh boy...

I'm quite happy to stream live attempts by anyone, for um, safety reasons concerning their sanity...

What happened to the Mole Shopper? I guess they won and haven't reported yet?