Quote from: ShyGuy on October 28, 2010, 11:14 PM
Troll.

I think every time you come back to this thread and troll, I will post this, just so people can see an example of you clearly contradicting yourself and see how arrogant you are:

Quote from: ShyGuy
Also, you say a fair amount of players WOULD play them, yet I don't even see a handful of people supporting those schemes for classic league....

Quote from: Komo
I said I "THINK" a fair amount of players would play those schemes if they were in classic

Quote from: Komo on October 27, 2010, 12:28 PM
so I think SSR WOULD be a good addition as I know for a fact people would pick it,

Quote from: Komo
Why accept w2rope into Classic league, even though it's a huge failure, and not give the 3 schemes i've suggested a chance knowing that a fair amount of players WOULD play them?

Shows you just aren't very clever lol, theres a difference between people playing and people picking, go figure it out for yourself, i'm seriously fed up with your poor intellect.

Ok Shy, you wanna kick me in the face, i'll give you my personal address you can come pay me a visit, it'd be the last thing you ever do.

You can't stay calm, you always get moody and lose your temper, so if anything, you are the "pathetic person"

You and avi are the "trolls"

I know more about WA than you do, I just can't do some things as good as you, such as TTRR.

You have took this whole thing WAY out of perception, I said you like TTRR more than you like SSR, it is true, you WON'T deny it, but instead you get all protective about a LITTLE THING that isn't even insulting in the slightest and start acting like a child.

I'm done with this, i'm done with you, you can't focus on anything, you have temper issues and you can't even talk like an adult.

Yet again you ruined a perfectly good debate, YOU are the one that lost temper and started insult etc, not me, so take a look at yourself, not me.

Anyway, off ot get my new TV now, enjoy being a pissy little bad tempered child lol.

Well yeah, you played very consistent tonight, dominated pretty much every game.

Thanks to everyone who played tonight, was quite a nice and fast Tournament, apart from surgeon accidentally playing his Semi Final game as a Bo3 cuz he can't read LOL !

Unlucky for wormf00d, i've never seen you play so bad lol, everyone has their bad day man but damn, I feel bad for you *hugs*

Anyway, congratulations to the winners !

Here are the results:



1st: Ray
2nd: surgeon
3rd: wormf00d
4th: catherr


f00d - can host
surgeon - can host
Ramone - can host
catherr - can host
coek - can host
Ray - can host
lacoste - can host
skime - can host


** Quarter Finals **

f00d Vs skime - f00d wins
surgeon Vs lacoste - surgeon wins
Ramone Vs Ray - Ray wins
catherr Vs coek - catherr wins



*** Semi Finals ***

surgeon Vs catherr - surgeon wins
Ray Vs f00d - Ray wins



**** Final - Bo3 ****

Ray Vs surgeon - Ray wins 2-1



**** 3rd Place Decider - Bo3 ****

wormf00d Vs catherr - wormf00d wins 2-0

See you all next week

avi, how weird are you lol, 1st you say no one reads my long posts, and Shyguys posts have been longer than mine in the last few pages...

Funny you don't seem to be bothering him about it lol, oh yeah, I guess that's because you like to hold his hand haha.

Ok Shy, I am dictacting your thoughts about SSR and TTRR because they are correct and you even know that, you DO like TTRR alot more than SSR, even if you like them both, the only reason you have the opinions you do about this suggestion is because you like some things more than the others, and you have opinions about some things being more important or "essential" than others, and I am coming to the conclusion about the way you act about THIS matter because of the things you have been saying.


I don't think those reasons matter, i've already explained this and if you can't understand it then I really can't be bothered debating with you anymore because you always take everything personal and start losing your temper and avi comes in talking alot of crap with no useful information about the debate he just wants to flame, you can never stay calm, it's dissapointing.

You said Rope is an element used more often than SSR which is why it's accepted as a scheme, go figure the rest out yourself.

So many people advocated w2rope, and never stuck by it, not even HALF those people have even played one yet, it was a complete failure, and no one cares, no harm done, so why can't we try the schemes i've suggested? If it doesn't work out, no harm done so what's the big deal???


I said I "THINK" a fair amount of players would play those schemes if they were in classic, people wanna play classic more because it's the more popular and competitive league, if a few more schemes were introduced, I think they would play them because it is the more competitive and popular league everyone is playing.

People play those schemes in Free league, for the simple reason they are IN Free league... If they were in Classic, I think they would play those schemes there instead, maybe even more so.

I thought cFc Vs CKC was next month?

avi, the only people who have really said it alot and said it the most are you and shyguy, funny that lol.

A few other people have said it like once or twice, I hardly call that often, i'm so jealous of your memory, I wish I had a memory like yours...

I ain't joking about you being a muppet, I really think you are a pain in the ass recently just as you probably think so too vice versa, but at least I don't keep making bad repetitive jokes and bad repetitive assumptions or accusations about you.

It does actually, your opinion of SSR and TTRR is different because you like one ALOT more than the other, and you are used to TTRR in the league, if SSR was in TuS before you registered, and you didn't have a choice, I honestly don't think you would complain, I think you'd be happy with it, thus making a slightly BIAS decision on schemes.

I've already said, those reasons don't really matter, it doesn't matter how useful a weapon is, or a single element, the main thing about a league like this is competitive and fun challenges and games, I think these 3 schemes would add to this, as both Bungee and SSR in their single element are VERY challenging, fun and competitive, even more so than TTRR in my opinion, it's easier to TTRR than it is to Bungee Race imo, SSR also, you can't fall and get another try usually with Bungee, like you do in TTRR, if you hit a wall with SS turn ends, unlike TTRR, so to me it'd be more fun and challenging, and competitive than TTRR... Another reason why I think they should be part of the Classic league.

I ignore your reasons for this point because I find them irrelevant to the discussion, why should SSR not be accepted just because Rope schemes are more popular?

w2rope is really unpopular and I think it was an honest mistake, 30s RR isn't unpopular as it was very popular before TTRR, I actually think people will use this.

TTRR/Rope are not accepted because they are "important" in other schemes, they are accepted simply because they are popular and fun/competitive schemes to play, 2 of the most popular actually, it has nothing to do with them being important parts of Elite or any other scheme...

So I think your point about this has absolutely no relevance or hold for this debate, at least I honestly do not see why it should or even would.

Why accept w2rope into Classic league, even though it's a huge failure, and not give the 3 schemes i've suggested a chance knowing that a fair amount of players WOULD play them?

Funny how your mind is so egotistical you think you can decide everything haha.

You just joke about me being a muppet, but you really ARE a muppet

You DO like TTRR more than you like SSR, I think that's obvious.

I know, but you still said it in a hypocritical way.

Can't really argue with this, these are facts about being terrible at rope, and 3 schemes, I do think we have somehow drifted away from the discussion a bit.

Basically I wonder why you think TTRR (being a single element of the game) is fine to have as a scheme, although SSR isn't (being a single element of the game also).

Basically the ONLY reason I see for this, is because it is more popular, and as i've already said, popularity doesn't decide Classic league schemes, otherwise BnG wouldn't be in, I think more SSR's would get played than BnG's, but BnG holds its position in the Classic league because it's always been there I guess.

I think it would be nice to even just try these schemes for a few months to try them out, no harm would be done to try them, not everyone will like them, but enough people will, not everyone likes every scheme that's available in the Classic league already, some people don't like BnG, some don't like Rope schemes, some don't like defaults etc...

Anyway, i'm happy eitherway because I get my new PC monitor today - 42"HDTV Plasma screen Samsung

Well it'd settled then, you are unfortunate in brain-power.

Let's call you, a mentally challenged muppet

^^ avi

Shy, it doesn't matter, really lol, just leave it.

Oh so, you think TTRR is vital because you like it more, but SSR isn't?

Sorry if I am wrong, but isn't TTRR just ONE element of the game as well? That's a bit hypocritical isn't it?

The element doesn't HAVE to be there but it IS the most useful weapon in Elite to so many people.

Rope isn't "important" to other schemes, it's just "used" in other schemes, for example, SS to me is more useful than Rope in both T17 AND Elite, and I am sure it is for other people also, and I am sure some will disagree and think of it vice-versa.

And seriously, your opinion on Forts, nice one mate, even if just Forts was introduced to Classic league, i'd be so much happier. At least it's something.

But lol, even though YOU agree with Forts, probably everyone else won't

I can't win either way LOL

They are probably thinking "WE MUST PROVE KOMO WRONG!"

I ain't arguin crazy, i'm just trying to convince them about SSR, it ain't like we are shouting at each other and gonna throttle each other lol.

It's a debate

But yeah, I guess I do go that extra step everytime, I would like these 3 schemes in Classic, but if they don't, I ain't gonna cry about it I can live without it lol, just saying i'd probably start playing Classic league again with some new schemes to play competitively

Quote from: avirex on October 28, 2010, 06:26 PMOr were all the people that tell u thast u contradict urself born stupid???map!!!

Like i've already said, I doubt they all know the proper defination of contradicting.

You all throw that word around too much without even thinking about it, basically, you all say I am being contradicting when I say something you don't agree with, when I explain something more in depth you say it's contradicting, it's not, that's actually called re-defining.

Going by your judgement, I could say Shyguy contradicted himself, but he didn't... He redefined his opinion, just like I did.