Quote from: Zalo on July 13, 2018, 06:41 PMMy point for f*cks sake wasn't to show that nobody can defeat me, but the fact that mole is not luck based scheme, and that you can win multiple times without the factor of luck. Something you totally lost track of in your delluded logic. Watching football matches is something that works better for you, at least you know what's the score is.

Why are you so bad at reading with comprehension? Hmm?

Quote from: TheKomodo on July 13, 2018, 06:34 PMMole is one of the most popular schemes on Worms currently, that's because most people left Worms and it's all that's left lol, THAT is why you are delusional, because you can't see it.

You aren't just delusional, you don't even know history lol.

I have been playing from 1999 since I got my first WA demo, with small breaks up to 2007. I haven't been on TUS but I do know the history of this game. So ffs, sit down in the place where you belong. I returned in the beginning of 2013. Mole simply seemed to fit the way I always wanted to play this game.

QuoteIs it? They have actually proven themselves over many many years how good they are at this game in general, you, have not, that's a simple fact.

just fk off Komo, 100x tus games won in a row, 3x cups with 3 golds, 32x players / cup and I still haven't proven myself to you? and who the fk u think you are? have you achieved anything to say that I haven't.

My point for f*cks sake wasn't to show that nobody can defeat me, but the fact that mole is not luck based scheme, and that you can win multiple times without the factor of luck. Something you totally lost track of in your delluded logic. Watching football matches is something that works better for you, at least you know what's the score is.

QuoteI honestly think you are just a little bit jealous because the scheme you love is unpopular and nobody cares, I know that feeling trust me, I absolutely loved Darts, even more than BnG, but nobody cared about it...

Komo... komo komo komo... then why all the people joke now that Tus is basically Mole Website now? why in the survey Mole is described as "the only scheme that can be found here"

You are just being dellusional calling it unpopular

Xan, yes, it's not for everybody, that I agree.

Komo, First of all, Why are lying that it was 3-2 with Yakuza? It was 3-1, when I was watching England Croatia, also together with you, we were both commentating on the match. It just shows how little you watched our games or you simply didn't care to do so. It's easy for you to say how "you would do things different" and yet you wouldn't win a single game, why? because your imagination of what it takes to win it is pretty inaccurate. Moreover, you imagination about Mablak or Random00 is higher than in reality (I admit Random00 smashed people in TUS Elite these few years ago). That is why players like HuSH tried to "give me some lessons" in Tus Mole while losing 2x times in a row against me.

I'm sorry but Mablak or Random00 would easily lose against me. End of Story. Prove me wrong. Random00 had the same obsession about TUS Elite. I have no problem with that, It might be even more strategic than Mole at times. What I am saying is that in Mole you don't win by accident and Random00 would need to practice for months to be able to win.

There are only 2 people that can defeat me in 5 games - Darmin and Magnus

Komo, You mentioned Random00 or Mablak. Man, I did watch their games today morning and their amount of wasted turns is more than I can count (not to offend anyone). I am sorry to say, I simply watched their few games, I can be wrong. I don't mind not finishing a worm down below if he is gonna waste 2x turns for climbing out. For you it's a mistake, for me it's not. There are many things in the game that simply don't matter, and don't change the course of the final result. You wouldn't stand the actual mistake-less mole match, because mistake-less match is a match with a bunch of blocking, one that takes 80+ minutes sometimes. I am not used to having an actual challenge, so please, give me any opponent and I will defeat him/her.

That's simply because I don't play any ranked games for 2-3 years, so I gave example of a ranked match.

Okay Sensei, Here is replay from last night game where I survived banana because of a good hide (25:30). It really isn't difficult to hide well.

Here we go again... -__- just play against me, I will poke you today on #AG. Why are we even wasting time here.

QuoteAlso, I've noticed that in various Mole schemes there is a lot of inconsistency (as mentioned previously) and the cluster bombs in particular are stupidly OP. In fact, I just finished a game a few minutes ago in which it was even until the guy got 3 clusters in a crate and then proceeded to kill 3 of my worms on 3 subsequent turns, leaving me at a huge disadvantage that I eventually couldn't overcome due to the fact that even though I had turn advantage, the guy got wayyyyy more crates than me and had a bunch of noob weapons like super sheep, homing pigeon, etc. I couldn't hide high, I couldn't hide low.

That proves to me that you just suck at hiding, you can survive even banana if you know how to hide and be ready for the worst... you died from clusters? Please, they barely take 70-80hp if you know how to hide well.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-201856/ <-- 2nd round, 12:55, an example of surviving a banana simply because of a good hide. My worm survived even though it wasn't even fully healthy.

QuoteI also couldn't move every single worm into a position in which they weren't likely to get killed by clusters.

Now you are just being ridiculous... You simply didn't know how hiding works.

Let's just play skunk.... ^ ^ follow piki's advice from 2 years back...

(that's my last post here)

Quote from: TheKomodo on July 11, 2018, 02:49 PM
To give you a little bit of an idea, this happened yesterday, I went out of my way to wait for Zalo to appear in AG yesterday, when he did I asked him to play some Mole Shoppers with the best player available in #AG right at the present time, do you know what he said lol...

"I just beat MyCy 7x in a row, no report anywhere"

I wanted to watch him play I don't care about statistics, I want to watch the guy who considers himself to be god at Mole Shopper, in action, so I can judge and assess for myself...

Instead he starts telling me "if you wanna see good league game there are replays... blah blah" I just logged back out at this point lol.

dude, I misunderstood you. You said sth like "Can you show me some games with the best player now?" so I thought you ask me about some recent replays on high level, I had NO CLUE you want to actually watch me live (O_o)

(you are the first person asking me for that to be honest)

*blank post*

QuoteSo you wanna go hard on me and walrus? On mole? Hahaha. Then let me ask you the same question: how many rope schemes can you beat me on? How many bngs can you win against walrus?

this quote summarises your monkey IQ ... my God....

Who on earth is saying that Rope schemes are the most strategic? who on earth is saying that? It's purely rope-reflex-based scheme. I never said it's easy to win against ropers or that it doesn't involve skill, you ape. I responded to him saying that it doesn't involve much strategy or tactics. So... If something doesn't require tactics or strategy and doesn't have rope in it, then according to Walrus somebody should win with me easily sooner or later. Funny how he says that, dying before he could kill any of my 4 worms. You are just afraid of being humiliated by the amount of strategy it involves. That's why you sit here instead of entering the game with me on the other side.

T17 is not even close to Mole. Nuclear test or Earthquake or Magic Bullet / Pigeon / Aqua Sheep is everything that decides about the result in the games in which people wait for sudden death, which is 40% of cases. You can manipulate with your luck and be extra careful, but you won't do much if you have nothing as counter-weapon for SD.

You need to understand that each time I made a mistake in Mole I prevented myself from making such a mistake next time. I learnt and learnt and learnt to prevent every possible scenarios. That makes a total of 1000+ scenarios for which I am ready, and hardly anything surprises me anymore in 98% of players I meet. That's the feature of tacticality, not lying far from Chess.

I will quote Piki from 2016 https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/off-topic/goodbye-mole-()-29225/msg244668/#msg244668

QuoteI used to hate mole, I thought it was a scheme that just contained luck as well. To be honest, with the amount of matches I had with Zalo, my perception totally changed. You just see in his game that he has an answer to (almost) any tactic, and any sort of lucky moves you have. Skunk3, Id definitely recommend you to play against a top player, to rethink about your opinion about this scheme when you have done that.

Why are you putting to my mouth words that I didn't say...?

I didn't say that nobody will ever beat me, Darmin is the closest to doing so but he plays for 6+ years. Magnus for 3-4 years played constantly with me. None of you will ever get close to what they know about the scheme. None of you will know 5% what it takes to defeat either them or me....

By saying "I won 3 Cups won in a row with 3 Golds, 32x playes per Cup & 100x tus games won in a row in the period of 14 months" I simply wanted you to come to the conclusion how far people like walrus, skunk, or you sbaffo are from defeating me. How far you are from defeating Magnus or Darmin doesn't lie far from it.

Quote from: Magnus on July 11, 2018, 08:55 AM

QuoteLooks like Gabriel just shredded the cheap veneer on your wall of text, and there is no substance behind it.

Just say that, because you look a lot sillier standing by your straw man argument.

I like your passion and your guile, but your heart is in the wrong place.  Mole shopper isn't even a top 3 strategic/tactical scheme.

So you attack others from behind their back? What a coward! I don't care what crap you type; you will never be man enough to challenge me in this scheme that you so call not top 3 strategic!

Well Said Magnus, That's the point that they just don't understand, and they will never be able to. We can win 1 out of 3 cave Intermediate rounds against Top Player, but there is not way they win at least 1 out of 10 Mole games against us, or against Darmin.

Hearing that Intermediate with island maps and random placements , or Elite, with 20 sec used primarly for the 2x reflex roping, are strategic based just makes me burt out laughing...

Walrus seems to have forgotten not killing a single worm in a game against me when we last played 2 years ago.

Quote from: TheKomodo on July 09, 2018, 05:57 PMIt's not like he's making a big deal out of it, just stating that it IS a factor of luck, which is true, you cannot argue it whatsoever.

Quote from: skunk3 on July 08, 2018, 10:23 PMWind is only a factor if you fall. Falling isn't luck.

umm.... but skunk3 said it's not really any factor, Sensei didn't say anything wrong here...

Quote from: Zalo on July 08, 2018, 06:18 PM
Anyone wants to earn 40$? way is open, just win in any of 5 games against me, and 40$ is yours.