Quote from: TheKomodo on July 08, 2018, 06:10 PM
@Zalo, I find your commitment to Mole Shopper more impressive than your skills, because I personally agree with skunk, it's nowhere near as highly skilled as you think it is. And i'll always expect you to defend that, it's admirable haha!

I have been constantly playing it for 5-6 hours every day since March 2013 and there is still some battlefield movements that I need to polish. I am ready for 100+ scenarios in the game, and I want to be ready for +150.

Anyone wants to earn 40$? way is open, just win in any of 5 games against me, and 40$ is yours.

Quote from: skunk3 on July 08, 2018, 04:47 PM

Quote from: j0e on July 08, 2018, 06:50 AM
If mole is so luck-based, why don't you accept Zalo's challenge Skunk? Instead of playing 20 games, just play until you win. Should just be a game or two, right?

Because I'd rather spend my time available for gaming doing something fun rather than having a pissing contest playing a scheme that I don't really enjoy due to random luck. That said, if I was in AG and nobody else had anything decent hosted and friends weren't online I wouldn't turn down a game. Besides, even if he won 2-3 games in a row vs. me that wouldn't prove his point that Mole is the most strategic/tactical scheme of all time. My issue is with that claim. To me, the scheme clearly is not. On top of that, if he is claiming that Mole is the most strategic scheme of all time he is by extension claiming himself to be the #1 best player because wouldn't it stand to reason that whoever dominates the most competitive/strategic non-rope-based scheme is therefore the best player? If Mole is more strategic and tactical than say, Intermediate or Elite, then wouldn't that dominant player also dominate those schemes as well? The reason why all of this sounds absurd is because his original premise is absurd. Mole is not the most strategic/tactical scheme there is just as I said, and it is also a highly luck-based scheme, just as I said. Clearly Zalo is quite good at Mole according the rankings but he has played over 2x more ranked games than ANYONE else, plus out of the 200+ players who have ranked Moles recorded in that list, roughly 5-10% of them are truly high-level players in my opinion, and most of them have very few ranked games recorded. Anyway, I'm not trying to make anyone angry here; I'm just trying to interject with a bit of rationality. To me, bragging about being the best Mole player is no different than claiming to be the best at T17. I am certain that if more skilled players decided to start playing a bunch of ranked mole (for whatever reason) the rankings would look radically different.

bulls*it ... you just want to spend your free time on baseless complaining, instead of proving anything.

play 1/2 final & final by comet dodging :>

"Sugoii" "Sugoiii" nice file!

that 1st round... nice piece of fighting for survival, congrats

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bl with that bungee, koci

Quote from: koci on July 05, 2018, 09:42 PM
"Retreat time: 8 sec"
It's shitest modyfication, with 10s i can play...

Have we ever had 10 seconds of retreat time though? The only visible difference is 40 seconds per turn itself.

Quote from: skunk3 on July 05, 2018, 10:03 PM
Mole shopper is no more difficult to play at a decent level than any other scheme. It is incredibly basic, in fact. I would never play 20 games of mole shopper vs. anyone because it's boring and too lucky for my tastes. I've played plenty of mole shoppers, so it's not like I don't know the scheme and how it is played. I'm not ignorant and lacking the super duper moleshop secrets to winning. Hiding, stealing, invading, chuting, etc... all of this stuff is present in many other schemes. To say that mole shopper is the most tactical/strategic scheme is ludicrous and lots of people agree. Not trying to get you pissed off or whatever because clearly you love it but that's how I view it. To me, mole is just a funner scheme to play when nobody else feels like playing something more serious in AG. There's a reason why it is so popular amongst noobs... because it is very easy to play and almost anyone has a chance of winning, especially in 4-6 player games. Random luck plays a huge part in the game whether you can recognize that or not.

Ignorance part #2

I doubt I would even lose 1 worm out of 4 against you. You clearly don't know this scheme.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/free-standings/Mole_Shopper/?s=overall
https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-1035/
https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-1051/
https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-1052/

Nobody wins 1st out of 32 people, or wins 100x games in a row, or 3x cups in a row "by accident" or because of your imaginary "huge amount of luck". You are just an ignorant, Sir.

Quote from: Gabriel on July 05, 2018, 06:06 PM
Imagine then, Zalo, how annoying is to have people like you saying that mole is the most tactical scheme when you have literally played nothing else competitively. Mole could be luck based or not, I don't think people care (out of the mole shopping community). Ever thought why the 'most tactical scheme' never made it to any serious league besides free?

Ever considered the dedication of NNN members? EA community? Do you consider their schemes don't have the RNG factor of crates? All you can think about or talk is about mole shopper, so sit there and shut up if you don't know.

@topic, I don't play often because I dislike the slow pace of mole shopping so I just play whenever people I know pm me somewhere else.

A really nice piece of argumentation. It's rare these days.

+1 for you

Quote from: skunk3 on July 04, 2018, 11:00 PM

Quote from: Zalo on July 04, 2018, 08:45 PM

Quote from: MrTPenguin on July 04, 2018, 05:05 PM

Quote from: TheKomodo on July 04, 2018, 03:00 PM
Maybe we should sign a petition to ban Mole Shoppers?

Mole shoppa, like torn/ripped jeans on young women, is a mere fad and will disappear in a few years.

You mean yourselves.

Mole is the most strategy & tactical based game, just like chess. Everybody who doesn't enjoy it is simply a sub-human. Unless you play on a resolution higher than 1366x768. If so, then I feel sorry for you, cuz you probably suck at jumping from pixel to pixel. Streamed 1920x1080 looks like sh*t.

Bahahaha....

Mole Shopper is a joke, my friend. It is basically a noob version of regular shopper in which you don't even need rope skills, or one could look at it as a sort of dumbed-town Team17. Much of the game is total luck and randomness and requires very little strategy compared to, say, Elite or Intermediate at high levels. The reason why so many noobs play Mole is because it's so easy and basically anyone has a chance of winning regardless of personal skill.

Luck based scheme? Dude, I would easily crush you in this scheme 300x times in a row. Everything is a skill over there
- hiding
- mole as a bumerang
- knowing when to steal, when to invade
- sprint across the map + parachute jumps to extreme extent
- the best possible executions, even with the worst weapons that you've got

Dude, I mean it. I will pay you 40$ if you ever defeat me in 20 games. Do you accept the challenge? It's so annoying to have ignorants like you, calling everything they don't know "Luck-Based". It's just sh*t mentality.

Quote from: MrTPenguin on July 04, 2018, 05:05 PM

Quote from: TheKomodo on July 04, 2018, 03:00 PM
Maybe we should sign a petition to ban Mole Shoppers?

Mole shoppa, like torn/ripped jeans on young women, is a mere fad and will disappear in a few years.

You mean yourselves.

Mole is the most strategy & tactical based game, just like chess. Everybody who doesn't enjoy it is simply a sub-human. Unless you play on a resolution higher than 1366x768. If so, then I feel sorry for you, cuz you probably suck at jumping from pixel to pixel. Streamed 1920x1080 looks like sh*t.

Gentlemen, this cup is meant to be played. I won't let it stay inactive. Everybody has their deadline now. If you don't play in time, you are out. I won't care about your excuses.

PAIRS WHO DIDN'T PLAY ANY GAME = 6 DAYS
PAIRS WHO PLAYED 1 GAME = 12 DAYS
PAIRS WHO PLAYED 2 GAMES = 18 DAYS

Liav & Koci, Kartofan & Pres, Vitos & Mazinger, Magnus said in the Group Notes that he and Scully will be free at 19:00 GMT. Decide on what day you meet, at this 19:00 GMT

Sign me in :O

I will spend my reward on rewarding people for 1# in Mole Cups (^________^)

Okay... so....

Magnus, Scully, Welcome to the Cup!

Quote from: Hurz on June 26, 2018, 01:02 AM
uhm
i got told theres some problems with the pairings, not rly gettin whats the deal there, got asked to rerandomize, but, why? if read this pls try not to play games before this is solved, maybe there will be repairing... otherwise i would have to delete games, so save the effort.
not having TOO much time atm, trying my best to take care in time.

I thought that Magnus sent a message to you that he wants to join the Cup with Scully. So that we would have 10 pairs instead of 8. (adoku + danger would join probably too)

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