combining schemes into grouped ratings makes no sense. I understand that all this started from people disliking hysteria, but grouping hysteria into another scheme's rating is not the solution. nor is grouping every other scheme just because you can; that's just making more of a mess for what seems to be no real benefit. if we go by scheme popularity, I can see the case for removing a scheme like Shopper, and maybe that should be argued, but I wouldn't want it to just be bundled into another scheme's rating just because it's unpopular -> it should either get removed or somehow fixed.

and that's what I'm thinking: just remove a scheme due to popularity, or try to fix the scheme itself. right now BNG and SHOPPER are the least popular and deserve some sort of action. BNG right now is just unpleasant to play. Games are often long, played on flat maps making them repetitive and less exciting, and the rules try to make games fair and balanced, but all they do is make everyone feel uneasy and feel 'cheaped.' BNG could do with a lot more excitement, just removing rules and playing on more creative maps, and at least go up to 2 worms each, if not more.  SHOPPER? I'm not a great shopper mind to figure out how to make it more competitively appealing to everyone, so if anyone has a great idea, we probably could really use it. SHOPPER needs a lot of help. And if nothing can be done, maybe it should be removed from classic.

ROPER by the way, I also believe needs to go up to 2 worms each. That's how it is in clanners, and it should be consistent.  Just like how in ELITE, you don't just double the amount of worms per player in clanners making it 8v8.  I believe ROPER singles also benefits from the added strategy of having 2 worms, such as piling, and it also makes those far crates more interesting if there's another worm pile on the other side of the map (try to unpile or not?).  this is getting long enough, so I'll stop here for now.

there are ways to tinker the formula, if MI wants to change the amount of progression that ratings exchange between wins, he can do that (I remember something like a 'K Factor' in the formula that does this). If I remember right, this would make increasing one's seasonal rating move closer to their overall rating (given they win the appropriate amount of games vs quality opponents) --> and in turn, players who simply play a ton of games would just plateau at their lower overall rating (unless that actually manage to improve their skill that season, which is good, and they would deserve their playoff spot should they get one).

I haven't heard from MI yet if he's thought of this or ever experimented with it, but this is just another idea that might appeal to those intimidated by all the high ranked players with 200+ games. still, I argue that getting a high ranking is just as possible right now with the current system because it definitely still rewards players for beating quality opponents. just do that and play 80 games (the current minimum) and you should be up there.

the amount of games shouldn't matter so much, as it's been shown people have qualified with the minimum 80 games when the people around had played 200+. the most important thing to focus on is winning vs quality opponents instead of focusing on other players having played so many games.

continuing from my post in the hysteria thread

TEL is suffering from too many consecutive seasons, so I have an idea that will likely help TEL and other TRL schemes.

Multiple TRL's.  Split up the schemes by popularity, so you have different tiers.  One tier could be Elite/Hysteria, so those two schemes would alternate back and forth in their own tier.  All the other schemes could be their own tier, or you could split up even more by popularity (like another TRL tier could be TTRR/Team17 just looking at the Season Info page activity).  What this does is keep schemes more fresh by not repeating 2 times in a row or more, and it let's schemes not have to take forever to show up in TRL again since they'll be in their own tier.

As for classic, it seems active as ever, and I still like it, so I'm not sure a huge change even needs to happen. I am curious what others are thinking though, so I do enjoy hearing everyone's ideas.  I just haven't heard anything too convincing yet.

the '2 pick system' I feel should stay because of the same reasons everyone is saying -> fewer games will be agreed on in AG if everyone is asking for their scheme only. the '2 pick system' promotes activity and makes people expand their skills. the occasional free wins are unfortunate, but I feel the overall effect of the '2 pick system' is still positive and healthy for the league.

i'll let other mods handle this. no rules bng is my vote

lol, whats with ur pc twistah, it's one problem after another.  is it an old pc?

hysteria is a cool scheme. there's nothing quite like it. 1 sec turns, 1 weapon per hotkey, no rules, and different strategies. I don't understand why people think it's the least competitive scheme out there. I have lots of fun figuring out different ways to win each and every game.

most people bashing hysteria don't feel like figuring out how to win at a new scheme.


TEL

TEL isn't working anymore. multiple TEL seasons in a row has only killed its activity every single consecutive season. this should tell us that one scheme shouldn't have it's own league multiple seasons in a row. the same thing happened for TRL: Roper. two seasons in a row killed its activity. even a THL (Hysteria League) I predict would have steadily declining activity every consecutive season.

I haven't thought of a solution yet, but I'd like to think one up and share when I can  (HHC's idea is one that kind of relates to this, but I don't think quite solves everything yet)

lol they must have noticed someone was using their internet, or they cut it off just as a coincidence. like maybe they got a new router, and it defaults to being password protected ;p

mmmm, i think they're inactive ^^, so ea sleeps for now, but as it wakes, you may have a nice shot

Quote from: ArtiC on April 11, 2012, 12:25 AM
I have free day this thursday if u can play that day was good xD (franz) or tuesday 23:15gmt (i am in university before) sound good, anyway i prefer weekend coz i can play warmed :<

if u prefer weekend, ok, what is your favorite weekend time to play? day+time, sounds like you're more busy than me

Reminder: FINAL deadline - TUESDAY, April 24th
almost 7 week(s) in now -> less than 2 week(s) left for FINAL


artic/franz, artic how about Tuesday the day after your test, April 17?  I can do 22+ gmt.


cfc/mm, artic are you saying cfc will likely only play bng on 14th Saturday at 20gmt?  if so, you'll need to work extra hard to arrange playing mm's next pick or risk getting kicked out because this'll be the second time you arrange to only play 1 or 2 games.

wee TUS2

any other games where this happens or only worms? odd that it happens on a different network too though.

worst case scenario, you could backup your data and format your computer :<  but that's only assuming it's something that infected your computer, and not an ISP issue.  still possibility that both networks have same problem? hard to say, maybe someone here is more expert in this area

yeah, sounds like that was the culprit. I predict full recovery

Quote from: franz on April 04, 2012, 03:50 AM

Quote from: SPW on April 01, 2012, 08:31 PM
Hey franz, sorry for waiting.

For me best would be end of week, maybe Friday, I'm not 100% sure. I'l call you in a few days dude.

hi spw any update?  if so, any hours you thinking?

hm, haven't heard from you yet. it looks like I'll be needed right after work Friday (tomorrow), so I'm guessing by the time I get back you'll definitely be asleep. any weekend hours that you like? I could let you know if they work for me