Quote from: f4st on December 09, 2008, 09:42 AM
rofl, why after all my posts theres a Doublenerd post? I told ya i'm hetero man

rofl, good remark there f4st. 

Quote from: f4st on December 09, 2008, 09:34 AM
That's all, its the scheme with more rules, thats why lot of ppl thinks BnG is boring, and i'm agree, i love BnG but sometimes its so boring.

On the contrary, I think ppl find BnG boring just because they are used to keep throwing 3 secs nades constantly and never get "bothered" to learn some more shots.

BnG is a 100% skill game like roperace, no thinking or such involved, thats why there will always be ppl loving it and some ppl hating it i guess. i used to like bng v much but then i realized that theres other way more exciting schemes (not that i hate bng now, but its pretty ordinary to me...like playing counterstrike or so ) but thats just my opinion, everything to its own or however the saying is

Quote from: chakkman on December 09, 2008, 07:17 PM
BnG is a 100% skill game like roperace, no thinking or such involved, thats why there will always be ppl loving it and some ppl hating it i guess. i used to like bng v much but then i realized that theres other way more exciting schemes (not that i hate bng now, but its pretty ordinary to me...like playing counterstrike or so ) but thats just my opinion, everything to its own or however the saying is

Nop, first and second choice of hides and wind variations mean it is not 100% skill.

BnG should be played without all these dumb rules. If your in a position where you can be hit with a 5 second sitter, TELE TO A BETTER HIDE!

If you get hit with a max 4 sec twice in a row, TELE TO A BETTER HIDE.

Why in elite would you never say oooh COW... COW u threw a 5 sec sitter man, U COULDA DONE A 3 SEC NADE WHY ARE U SOOO LAAAME.

When the object of a game is to win, why should you be forced to make shots harder for yourself? Put infinite teles and hide well... Surely the better player will still win...

This argument is about esthetic shots in BnG NAiL, I can perfectly understand why there are rules for BnG and why people call you cheap if you break them.

And if you're honest BnG looks much better with grenades that explode in mid-air rather than with sitters.

Omg NAiL i thought u was joking, if u never played BnG stfu man

The problem is, that mostly when you tele so you wont get hit by a sitter, you'll get hit by straight zook. NRBnG is really pain in ass imo.

Quote from: NAiL on December 10, 2008, 02:19 AM
Why in elite would you never say oooh COW... COW u threw a 5 sec sitter man, U COULDA DONE A 3 SEC NADE WHY ARE U SOOO LAAAME.

Nail, you can't compare 2 schemes like that, what is lame in one is not lame in other, there are thousands of examples...

Quote from: NAiL on December 10, 2008, 02:19 AM
When the object of a game is to win, why should you be forced to make shots harder for yourself?

Object in every game is to win, but for example why won't you shoot from offside in football..? Cause there are rules to every game that makes it harder but more enjoyable to play. 

@Face
I think that NRBnG was a good idea of KRD, but same as BnG with rules, it does have it's own goodness and defects at the same time...
Imo it would make things simpler, but I'm afraid it wouldn't 'inspire' new players to really learn and get skill in this scheme...

If these rules still bothers anyone, let's make a poll about it? I don't see any other way to end this discussion cause BnG discussions were and still are endless I guess...

You can start a poll about them ramone.

If you want start a new poll and say the options in the post.

Quote from: darKz on December 10, 2008, 02:32 AM
This argument is about esthetic shots in BnG NAiL, I can perfectly understand why there are rules for BnG and why people call you cheap if you break them.

And if you're honest BnG looks much better with grenades that explode in mid-air rather than with sitters.

yes of course they do, but a league game should be about playing TO WIN. Not about trying to do a different shot every time and making the shot harder than it has to be.

If you are playing a game for fun, to practise different shots and skills, of course your not gonna want to do "easy" shots...

Why in an elite that you are playing TO WIN would you make a shot or turn harder than it has to be purely to make it look better?

BnG would be so much more appealing to players without all the rules about "cheap" play... you can play ANY scheme "cheap"... you are trying to win man!

Put infinite teles so that you make a better hide for yourslelf, rather than forcing your opponant to hit you with harder than they have to be shots simply because your down in a hole and don't have any teles left!!! madness!!!!

Quote from: Ramone on December 13, 2008, 12:49 PM

Quote from: NAiL on December 10, 2008, 02:19 AM
When the object of a game is to win, why should you be forced to make shots harder for yourself?

Object in every game is to win, but for example why won't you shoot from offside in football..? Cause there are rules to every game that makes it harder but more enjoyable to play. 

I hear you, this is a good comparison you have used.

But you should know that the offside rule was invented by some Lord or important person a long time ago. The score was 0-0, and in the final few minutes of the match the Lord's team conceded a goal. The Lord was so outraged and humiliated at the prospect of his team loosing the match, that he invented the "offdside" rule on the spot and so the win was disqualified.

Sounds a little like worms

edit: well I saw that on kids tv a few months ago, I assume its true

NAiL I'm actually with you about this BnG thing. (Not Elite knocking ).

But I think this discussion wouldn't reach a good result
I think a poll should do it.

i think we should keep the rules, but if 2 players agree on NRbng then i think they should be allowed to play it

Ye I know Monkey 8 )

The two stances on BnG are like athiests and christians, but friendly debate benefits us all and keeps the brain in good condition for when you have to go to court 8 )

Quote from: NAiL on December 13, 2008, 05:15 PM
yes of course they do, but a league game should be about playing TO WIN. Not about trying to do a different shot every time and making the shot harder than it has to be.

If you are playing a game for fun, to practise different shots and skills, of course your not gonna want to do "easy" shots...

Why in an elite that you are playing TO WIN would you make a shot or turn harder than it has to be purely to make it look better?

BnG would be so much more appealing to players without all the rules about "cheap" play... you can play ANY scheme "cheap"... you are trying to win man!

Put infinite teles so that you make a better hide for yourslelf, rather than forcing your opponant to hit you with harder than they have to be shots simply because your down in a hole and don't have any teles left!!! madness!!!!

hm the more i think about your points the more they make sense to me^^
would make life in a bng a lot easier to just play for the win and not always have in mind not to play lame or somethg...

I wasn't talking about league games, I'm talking about BnG rules in general. Anyway if you are playing league game, you shouldn't play it cheap either. And my opinion is that the repeating shots one after another (after hitting the opponent) is cheap and lame thing to do in BnG.

If you allow repeating shots, who will ever bother to get any skill in this scheme in future? Most of players will just throw 3 sec nades constantly and that is not the point of BnG. As I said already, if you do that, change this scheme name to NtD - nade to death.

BnG should be about skill in throwing nades and using zook. That's why only zook and nades are there in weapons.