someone host in WO some tourney then

I believe that select worms in Hysteria will change all the gameplay but could be nice.

The most important is change the scheme anyway. I am tired to play this scheme like it is now. Hysteria deserves to be a better scheme, yes!

Quote from: Dub-c on August 16, 2011, 01:59 PM
I was starting to get really into hysteria but the scheme obviously needs a revamp. Random turn order was definitely an improvement. Instead of people constantly ploping there own worms why not use just 1 worm per team and 200 health? Just a suggestion since it usually always ends up 1v1 anyways and its not a real advantage to have lots of worms.

ehhh

http://2010w.wormolympics.com/t58#results

Quote from: Krezo on August 16, 2011, 11:17 AM
Komo, this is not bng dude...

With only 1-2 changes this will be bng and that's what we don't want.

It's not my/his/her foult because you don't want to use tactic called "telecow" or something.

I never said it was BnG and I don't want it to be BnG, if I want to BnG, I will BnG lol.

Piling is good, what I don't like is people hiding under/sides trying 10-20 times for 1 good shot then acting like they own, it's even worse when they plop their 1st worm just to pile all game, I don't like that kind of piling. But when I play for example Dub-C we will pile each other but remain on top making it more "skill".

I don't like to hide because I prefer Hysterias to be under 10 minutes per game, I just enjoy it that way.

And for the record for about the 4th time, I said you are a good player Krezo and I like you, I just don't like your tactics lol, I don't have a bad thing to say about you cuz you done nothing wrong, I hope there isn't a problem between us cuz I am cool with you mate

Well, the telenade (PX®) could be an alternative to teleport and it might help avoid these things people complaint about

Everybody who thinks BnG is about cool shots, take a piece of paper, and write this 50 times a day:
"Hysteria is not 1sec BnG. Hysteria is not style BnG. Hysteria is not about cool shots."

Boy I'm fed up with this infectious disease. People wanna draw you a line "How you must play", "You must play the tactic I like", "That move is lame to me, so I change the scheme to eliminate lameness", "He is noob because he defeated me with telecow, a pro beats me with a nice shot."
Why can't you just accept that some tactics are lame, some are nice. Why can't you leave it at that? Do you think you are a good hysteria player? Then you will beat your opponent no matter what. The time you spend on changing the scheme, you could improve yourself in hysteria, you could improve yourself in tactics against telecow. Spend your time trying to solve the question, not to erase the question.

You nor me MI have the authority to make such claims about how the scheme is played. What I can tell you is that Run didn't have in mind a scheme in which telepile and darksiding was the usual.

Solve the question as opposed to erasing it, well, imagine we lived in anarchy state of chaos. Should society aim to become super elite bountyhunters capable of killing bandits with their bare hands or should the efforts be focused in trying to restore democracy?
If you think the hysteria scheme is fine as it is that's a very valid oppinion but saying people should just learn to cope with its flaws isn't a valid argument.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on August 17, 2011, 08:48 AM
Everybody who thinks BnG is about cool shots, take a piece of paper, and write this 50 times a day:
"Hysteria is not 1sec BnG. Hysteria is not style BnG. Hysteria is not about cool shots."

Boy I'm fed up with this infectious disease. People wanna draw you a line "How you must play", "You must play the tactic I like", "That move is lame to me, so I change the scheme to eliminate lameness", "He is noob because he defeated me with telecow, a pro beats me with a nice shot."
Why can't you just accept that some tactics are lame, some are nice. Why can't you leave it at that? Do you think you are a good hysteria player? Then you will beat your opponent no matter what. The time you spend on changing the scheme, you could improve yourself in hysteria, you could improve yourself in tactics against telecow. Spend your time trying to solve the question, not to erase the question.

well said :}

Hysteria is hysterica says it all, you go crazy with tactics or telecow jetcow, but this is already part of the game, hence the name hysteria ... and hide the sides of the map trying 10-20 times as Komitas said, is a tactic, spend time as MI said forcing his opponent to rise to the battle, but I think changing the scheme hysteria, hysteria would be .. . come to be near an elite (2 tele) hysteria would be changed with a tele 4 shit, if you do not have time or patience to play 10 or 20 minutes hystria Alt + f4 gg and ready ...

not change

BnG is not Hysteria. Everybody knows it. But Hysteria is not f8 race too.

Imo the Hysteria must to be a mix of nice shots (BnG) with handling capacity.

Hysteria needs to be change. Each day Hysteria becomes a annoying scheme, with excessives darksiding and teletactics and less skiilz.

If hysteria doesnt change, the better to do is delete its from classic league.

Quote from: ropa on August 17, 2011, 09:10 AM
If you think the hysteria scheme is fine as it is that's a very valid oppinion but saying people should just learn to cope with its flaws isn't a valid argument.

This is a great line.

Its pretty dumb to say too bad this is how the scheme is live with it. The NFL is one of the worlds greatest professional sports organizations. They make changes to their rules every year trying to make the league and game even better.

Its progression. As time changes rules also need to change and the game change.

Why not try to make schemes better instead of living with their downfalls just because.

Quote from: Phanton on August 17, 2011, 12:35 PM
Hysteria is hysterica says it all, you go crazy with tactics or telecow jetcow, but this is already part of the game, hence the name hysteria ...

[citation needed]



(I'm positive Run didn't consider telepiles (stop calling it telecow, it doesn't make sense, it's not ilegal) and other form of cheap ass tactics when deciding the name)

edit: for the record, he didn't even plan it as a league scheme so it's normal there's a bunch of things that could do with a tweak to make it a more specific league scheme. This is an example of what I've been trying to say all these days, you made a poll and people decided to vote hysteria in the league, but at what point did you sit down and ask yourselves "is this scheme going to work?". I'm not sure how much experience you have with democracy, but by now you should've realized that evne if people voted to include hysteria as a league scheme look how many are already realizing it might not be the best of ideas, in its current state, do you think these people are going to be responsable and take the blame for the voting? No, they'll blame Obama.

There's no real argument to defend its current state for league competition, other than "it's always been like that", it's funny, since it's the attitude you condemn so much here in TUS, and you're doing the same (sorry to generalize). In fact, some of you are even making up fats to support your one and only argument: "I don't want to learn how to play Hysteria again".

My question is, why didn't this discussion take place before including the scheme in the league?

Because no one gives the least of a f@#!, people voted, ergo they'll play it ergo activity raise. TUS line of thought.

well i guess that there is a place for Hysteria in Classic League yet.

But is hard to play because dont care what a nice game u did, always a teleport comes to crash our game (in hysteria).

Imo limiting teleports and jetpack retreat could help. There are 2 changes that wont change the  Hysteria experience.

Quote from: Professor on August 17, 2011, 01:10 PM
well i guess that there is a place for Hysteria in Classic League yet.

But is hard to play because dont care what a nice game u did, always a teleport comes to crash our game (in hysteria).

Imo limiting teleports and jetpack retreat could help. There are 2 changes that wont change the  Hysteria experience.

I don't think limiting the teleport is the answer.

Quote from: ropa on August 12, 2011, 06:33 PM
someone make the NBP.
Noob Bashers Police.

Quote from: Dub-c on August 17, 2011, 01:48 PM

Quote from: Professor on August 17, 2011, 01:10 PM
well i guess that there is a place for Hysteria in Classic League yet.

But is hard to play because dont care what a nice game u did, always a teleport comes to crash our game (in hysteria).

Imo limiting teleports and jetpack retreat could help. There are 2 changes that wont change the  Hysteria experience.

I don't think limiting the teleport is the answer.

Limiting teleport doesnt avoid teletactic but this isnt the intention.

Hysteria must to have teletactic, sometimes hysteria becomes bng and u need something to change it.

But if limit teleport we will be avoiding players that has the finger sticked in F8 key.