NdSC #42

lol, hard

If that picture is where he activates drill then it's not a swoosh it's an arch.

If he's going ------------------>

Unfortunately that's not how the ninja rope works, there's quirk with the rope making it so it should be released 1 frame earlier than what the rendered frame is showing.

Yeah but at best it would be totally vertical, and still not a swoosh.

Um actually, when going to the right a swoosh is possible at 90° . ☝️🤓

To be honest, I've never seen it actually written anywhere. My definition of a swoosh though, is when the rope is past the perfect vertical point moving downwards, basically, the image that Triad showed but the worm would be on the other side at the same point.

That's how I've known it for over 20 years personally.

For the Challenge, it's up to the moderator, so up to Triad really.

 

I'll say this, you were wrong to advice with certainty based only on an assumption.

I wasn't wrong because there is no "official" way of doing any move on the rope, its basically what people agree on.

I still don't consider that being a legit swoosh in my eyes, but "technically" its a swoosh using another method of measurement that uses the way the rope shoots only instead of both the way the rope shoots and where you shoot it from.

This is like half the requirements of a genuinely real swoosh.

For a swoosh to be a proper swoosh the rope has to be already diagonal the way you're moving on the side you're throwing it.

That's how I measure it and always will measure it.

Triad allows it. But I wouldn't.

Edit. It's also another funny one...

What's the difference between an arch and a mexi? They are both the same move really, but how you measure them is different lol.

Also, some moves even have different names now than they did 25 years ago when I started roping so i go with the old names and ways of measuring...

TA wasn't even possible back then, a swoosh is not a vertical drop lol, f that, that's a limp swoosh.

It's like...

There is a power variant of most moves as well.

Power spike. Power pump. Power outlaw. Power kick. Power swoosh...

Which is when you do it holding the direction AND up for maximum speed without letting go of either button.

So this is like the complete opposite... The limp swoosh, with no power at all, the absolute bare minimum 🤣🤣🤣

there is no "official" way of doing any move on the rope, its basically what people agree on.

I agree, but that isn't what I'm disputing.

Yeah but at best it would be totally vertical, and still not a swoosh.

My definition of a swoosh though, is when the rope is past the perfect vertical point moving downwards

I found the rope attachment position and the worm position at the frame of rope release by looking at the game's memory values.
Rope attachment position: 3100.1880340576171875 pixels
Worm position:            3103.64398193359375   pixels

As you can see the the worm is more than 3 pixels further to the right than the rope attachment position.

What this means is that the rope can't be perfectly vertical, in fact it's angled slightly to the right. You should be able to see this for yourself using TA by not releasing the rope.
Even by your own definition it was a swoosh, and you were wrong to assume that the rope would not go past perfectly vertical.