MOLE CHAMPIONSHIP 2VS2 (2022)

Quote from: SIBASA on June 14, 2021, 09:29 AM
I am outraged by the incorrect organization of the cup and the incorrect attitude of its owner towards the players.

you are indignant when it is profitable for you, and you are not indignant when it is not profitable for you, as we saw perfectly well in the previous championship 

https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-1064/msg278922/#msg278922   

when the administrator of the championship counted your victories with your clan companion, who, besides you, didn't play with other players on purpose   

Quote from: SIBASA on June 14, 2021, 09:29 AM
All this discussion would not have been here if everything had been described in detail initially, because this is a private cup, which can have any rules that differ from the provided scheme.

All this discussion would not be here if  ... after the first game you stopped and clarified the rules, because the transfer of weapons from round to round looks very suspicious   

   PS In the 21st century, there are many ways to contact the administrator and get an answer in a day, it is a pity that you do not know about this   

Quote from: Requin on June 14, 2021, 02:32 PM

Quote from: SIBASA on June 14, 2021, 09:29 AM
I am outraged by the incorrect organization of the cup and the incorrect attitude of its owner towards the players.

you are indignant when it is profitable for you, and you are not indignant when it is not profitable for you, as we saw perfectly well in the previous championship 

https://www.tus-wa.com/cups/cup-1064/msg278922/#msg278922   

when the administrator of the championship counted your victories with your clan companion, who, besides you, didn't play with other players on purpose   

Quote from: SIBASA on June 14, 2021, 09:29 AM
All this discussion would not have been here if everything had been described in detail initially, because this is a private cup, which can have any rules that differ from the provided scheme.

All this discussion would not be here if  ... after the first game you stopped and clarified the rules, because the transfer of weapons from round to round looks very suspicious   

   PS In the 21st century, there are many ways to contact the administrator and get an answer in a day, it is a pity that you do not know about this   

In this cup, there was no benefit at all. As you can see, I won this game and wrote about it myself and was ready to play again. The essence of the discussion was the poor organization of the cup, which eventually led to the out of Lupastic and me.
As for the previous cup, I have no complaints about it, unlike you, who builds conspiracy theories, haha.

Shark, as a frequent quitter-leaver you are (in public matches, at AG), I would remain silent about this matter :3 like "sportsmanship" and stuff like that
You are just as much of a leaver, as Zorro is a butt-hurt gurl, who spreads lies and twisting the facts, when it's clear that he himself couldn't even make up his own mind about this "cup" and the rules, and he had everyone to blaim, when all you gotta do is just to read back the cup description and the comments here

next up, we need better and smarter organization, that's all, np. it's fine by me, we still had fun playing with Siba and Run, and the matches were exciting, it was good for practise, but this whole thing is not working out on a long term anyway

I hope I'll meet and play against the other players as well in the future in a next Cup games or anything. ^^

Quote from: SIBASA on June 14, 2021, 03:25 PM
As you can see, I won this game and wrote about it myself and was ready to play again.

Quote from: SIBASA on June 13, 2021, 05:54 PM
Why should we replay because of a cup moderator's mistake?

Yeah suree.... If you could take a free win, you would do it. We all already saw you doing it, spamming Clusters all over the place after Round 2 barely started. Same goes with Lupastic. As soon as he heard that I would give both teams equal chances with 0:0, he also starts quitting and crying like a little girl that cup rules apparently change "day by day", deflecting that he has been the only one hosting the game this way. You could have been respectful and cooperating, but you chose to be pretentious and to look down on the organiser. Please go away and don't come back. You are already replaced.

Oh! I didn't realise there was a whole debate going on. I've just caught up on the thread.

I'm kinda disappointed I got removed from the cup but if Sibasa wanted to leave then that's understandable, since we were on the same team. Nevertheless if another dropout happens and you need a replacement, I'm happy to jump back in

I suppose we should probably have questioned the scheme as soon as we noticed the weapons were carried over. That just seemed silly for a moleshopper, but I assumed it was deliberate. Trouble is, you can't pause the game, or save it, and then go and check... so as soon as round 2 started we kinda had to carry on and assume it was correct. To be honest I kinda have to give Lupastic credit for carrying on - he must have known we had a huge weapon advantage and if I were in his position I think I would have kicked up a stink!

I see a lot of blame is being thrown around but I don't think it's really that big a deal. It makes sense to me that Lupastic changed the scheme setting to bo3, but he should have checked the stockpiling option beforehand (and then asked the host to clarify). But also, Zorro should have uploaded a scheme with no stockpiling, and used that for the cup. It's fine, it's not a big deal, there doesn't need to be a fight over who's to blame.

For what it's worth I would have been happy to play from 1:0, that seems the fairest way to proceed (since that first round was 'legit').

Anyway give me a shout if another space comes available (or if another moleshop cup happens!)

Quote from: Run on June 14, 2021, 04:58 PM
I see a lot of blame is being thrown around but I don't think it's really that big a deal. It makes sense to me that Lupastic changed the scheme setting to bo3, but he should have checked the stockpiling option beforehand (and then asked the host to clarify). But also, Zorro should have uploaded a scheme with no stockpiling, and used that for the cup. It's fine, it's not a big deal, there doesn't need to be a fight over who's to blame.

That's an example of maturity! Compare this comment to:

"the fact that you are carrying the weapons (...) is indeed really stupid"
"next time try to organize it better"
"Why should we replay because of a cup moderator's mistake"
"it was you who did not take care of in advance"
"this is just getting more and more ridicolous now Thought we might quit this"
"Echiko and me will join the next mole cup, when it's properly organized"
"rules and the bio of the cup (...) changing day by day"

Up to that moment I still attempted to be respectful towards the authors of this, but enough is enough, and after the last quote I realised I can't deal with this sort of people.

Thank you Run. Welcome to Kaptowka's team.

Quote from: ZorroX on June 14, 2021, 02:20 AM
The ONLY reason this 13 year old scheme is set to Bo1 is because that is the ONLY way for weapons to disappear. (at least as far as I know, I haven't found a better way).

STOCKPILING. In scheme options, disable stockpiling (then save scheme and upload). Thats all, then no weapons goes to next round, even if click Play next round.

Quote from: Danger135 on June 14, 2021, 06:40 PM

Quote from: ZorroX on June 14, 2021, 02:20 AM
The ONLY reason this 13 year old scheme is set to Bo1 is because that is the ONLY way for weapons to disappear. (at least as far as I know, I haven't found a better way).

STOCKPILING. In scheme options, disable stockpiling (then save scheme and upload). Thats all, then no weapons goes to next round, even if click Play next round.

Thank you señor, I was asking a couple of people last week how to change it but nobody knew. I will upload new scheme somewhere this evening.

edit:
The Cup scheme is updated on the cup page! <3 enjoyyy
https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-4000/
when hosted with Hosting Buddy type "!tusscheme 4000"

Give PEACE a chance.

I've been struggling to get in touch with KartoFan. He didn't reply to my PM on this site and I'm not sure what his Discord ID is. :/

I can take place of someone inactive.

Inactivity vs. disconnectlegend, what is better. Zorrobear may choose

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on June 22, 2021, 01:43 PM
I can take place of someone inactive.

yo Adnan, you could also take the place of an inactive player in the Selecsteria cup we have many inactives there sadly..and Sibasa will look for some replacements soon.. you could come ^^

I'm also up to cover for someone inactive.

Quote from: Godmax on June 22, 2021, 02:54 PM
Inactivity vs. disconnectlegend, what is better. Zorrobear may choose

Disconnect legend is no more. I've threatened the ISP providers that I'll keep complaining and their pays will be decreased if my internet is not fixed. Disconnect chance is very low now.

Quote from: Lupastic on June 22, 2021, 03:30 PM
yo Adnan, you could also take the place of an inactive player in the Selecsteria cup as well we have many inactives there sadly..and Sibasa will look for some replacements soon.. you could come ^^

Ok, will do.