1st of all I'm going to specifiy that I understand your message completely, the way you wrote it, with the English language.
Maybe what you mean is different from what you're writing, but I can assure you, I'm not an idiot who doesn't understand his own native language.
Also, I don't see this as an argument rather than a passionate conversation about something which has quite literally been one of the most important parts of my life.
I've met people through Warmers who literally changed my life, I won't go into detail about my childhood, but from my own perspective, this game saved my life. People I met through Warmers from 1999-2004 played a huge part of who I am today.
So please don't think this is some meaningless argument, or that I'm frustrated or angry with you because I am not.
I put 100% effort into everything I am passionate about, and yes, I take these conversations literally... I enjoy them!
You didn't understand my message. You are taking everything too literally
Of course, why shouldn't I take it literally? Are you suggesting your words are sarcastic? Or exaggerated?
If you are deliberately speaking with sarcasm, or exaggeration, or any other form of meaning other than literal, then you need to specify that, otherwise I will take your words literal by dictionary definition.
– What is entry/basic/good level? Are there any criteria that helps distinguish the basic level from the average?
I had an interesting conversation with M3ntal during our stream today... For the sake of clarity, let's just speak about this subjectively.
This is a Cup that I am hosting on TUS, so therefore it's my own subjective opinion of what is deemed worthy of entering a high skill level tournament.
I will be basing my judgement based on the following:
Speed - How fast you can go in general, in all aspects, that means doing tricks and moves as fast as possible, it's more impressive to have that level of control. Though, saying that, it's also impressive to switch it up and do some moves that are slower!
Consistency - So consistency comes into play more when you are doing riskier moves, and not failing. So think of consistency as in, keeping it going without failure or mistakes.
Creativity - This is self explanatory... It's about doing things that aren't common. To think of combos which aren't done often, or moves in places people usually don't do them.
Variety - This is self explanatory as well... It's might sound similar to creativity but it's not quite. Variety is just mixing it up with a bunch of different stuff so you aren't too repetitive.
Adaptability - This is very important as well... Being adaptive means you can switch it up in an instant... You might go for a certain trick, but can see you aren't going to make it in time so you adapt and quickly execute something that does work! If you are good enough at this, it can look like everything was meant purposely!
Those things are very simple to judge if you are an experienced player, although opinions are subjective, most skilled players will be in agreement of what separates a skilled player from a noob.
– How can you determine the level of someone while playing Warmer? As I said, the Warmer is the scheme, where people just perform what they want to perform. Maybe someone just doesn't want to perform some masterful tricks.
Well, for the most part, it's obviously subjective, it's opinion based, what impresses me the most might not impress you the most... Though I am 99.1337% sure that we would both distinguish a beginner(noob) from a top tier player, EASILY!
Wouldn't you agree?
– Everything in the world is relative. Is the watermelon big or small? If you compare it to an apple, then yes. If you compare it to the planet, then no. Is the "noob" relative or absolute term? Are the criterias of entry/basic/good level absolute or relative?
Yeah, I'd ask the same question to be honest.
There is a certain level of objective judgement, though, it IS mostly subjective.
Clearly there is an objective level of "This guy has literally just started learning how to rope", which makes them a noob...
Though once you reach a certain level(which really does vary for everyone!), it becomes more, subjective.
These questions are rhetorical for showing you that everything isn't as simple as you want.
I mean, for me it's very simple, I'm not sure about you though.
I didn't say that noobs don't exist lol.
Sorry but you literally did say that:
There are no noobs, this is a place where people just perform what they want to perform and no one competes.
And I agree that the truth shouldn't be offensive. I was talking about the culture of rope freestyling and the warm, friendly atmosphere. I said that we should mentally eradicate the word "noob" in relation to Warmer and freestyling, because it can degrade the atmosphere and the culture. "Noob" is a bad label for many. If you don’t believe me, go to the open WormNet (out of friendly tus-games) and play random games with a guys, try to call them noobs and you will see the reaction.
I mean... I see what you're saying and disagree absolutely.
"Noob" is not inherently an offensive word with offensive intentions, it never has been... If you believe it IS though, then it IS.
Besides, how can you even be a noob at freestyle? If you have came to FREESTYLE, then you at least have basic skills.
I mean, I've already explained this a number of times...
Especially in a competitive event which has subjective judges.
I'm not actually sure how else to explain this concept to you...
You are so sure that you are right that I don’t even want to disappoint you. 
I wouldn't be debating with you if I thought I was wrong...
You have a good ambitions, I wish you good luck honestly. And I just wanted to help with the situation, because this event is so far from successful, like so far our planet from the Alpha Centauri. But instead of thinking about my words, you've began to argue and tried to prove that I was wrong. Ok, it's your business, do your own way.
To be honest, it's even further from successful than Alpha Centauri!
I'm ok with that! Everyone has ups and downs, success and failure!
In my head I know it's a great idea the way I vision it, the problem is we have less than 0.5% of players interested in Warmers as we used to 20 years ago...
If this event took place 20 years ago, I know it would be successful...
Think of it as an old fossil of a player dreaming about how good Warmers used to be, and trying to integrate the success of the CWA Discord/Twitch channel with that passion!
It is impossible to have a successful event with the best players in an empty room. First of all, we need at least someone to fill this room... And I’m talking not about spectators.
Indeed!
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