No Rules BnG - It's the right thing to do.

[Prankster]

There should be another topic for NrBnG brainstorming. Without making slips in the speaking, nothing about history, only ideas for the NrBnG scheme.

If it's done, let's have a vote to see how much % of the community want the change.

Or else, it becames only trash.

[Dub-c]

There should be a forum where only level headed and smart people can discuss things such as this.

[Desetroyah]

There should be a forum where only level headed and smart people can discuss things such as this.

elitism of intelligence online is as fruitful as cart-wheeling on the f@#!in moon (ie not much XD )

just wear your imaginary idiot-filter and walk the treacherous lands of the internets my friend

[Ramone]

the funny thing is, you still have no idea wtf your talking about...

im just going to nod and smile.

Naaah, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
U just don't have enough brains to understand it, as always..
It's all fine..

@shy,
that's a stupidest comparison ever made.

[ShyGuy]

i agree

[TheKomodo]

And ye, it's so boring... let ppl use 5 sec nade each turn, the first hit person will never get out of the hole which will be done by granades this way (or they will have to move each turn, again and again)
It's not us who have problem, but you, mr Best who needs changes, but at once is not going to play league anymore, so pathetic (ah, and few unskilled noobs, but who the f@#! care about them)

For starters Maciej, if you had bothered to read my post I explained that using 5s nade each turn you are more likely to lose, with unanchored NrBnG, it's the simplest thing to avoid this, and like I said about you not paying attention, again you have proved this with your typical ignorance, I already said, more than 3 times now, that I would start playing Leagues again if NrBnG was accepted, I've already played a BnG clanner with cFc due to all the excitement, and I am not the 1st, or only person to request NrBnG, I have joined a que of about 20+ at least over the years.

Are you saying this is what is lacking in current bng as in this is a good thing?

I don't get you mate, either way, I guess my answer to "what is lacking" in my opinion would be the freedom do play how you want and not be called cruel things by elitist wankers (such as what I used to be).

The thing that bugs me is the idea to completely replace current BnG with nrBnG here and imo that would affect completely way of playing BnG on Wnet, not only TUS league. Imo in a long term it would downgrade quality and needed skills for the scheme. New players will never develop crucial skills for BnG if they were allowed to constantly throw 4sec fp repeaters, straight zooks and sitters and only play ftw. Yes, they will develop the skill in some other way, but BnG as it is now would be crippled. And Crazy, it's not just the "current scheme". It's a scheme that have been played for the last 6 years as much as I'm playing, and a few years before that as I know..  Is 6 or 8 years smth that's new and current? I don't get it, U and avi are talking like I'm playing it for 3 months. Am I a fool to protest when someone wants to kill a scheme that I play and enjoy for 6 years?

Ramone, how could it possibly downgrade quality and needed skills when you are adding insane variety and tactics as a possibility? Have you ever tried this scheme? For example, your "cool shots" can beat simple players, only because you have rules that protect you from basic shots, basic shots that no offence, but you suck at in regards to consistency, you would lose more games in NrBnG than you would a2b, this is just a guess, I may be wrong, but I am very confident in what I just said and I know it would be extremely difficult for you to prove me wrong.

Why are you so scared of "easy shots"? If they are so easy, then shouldn't you be able to do them? It's natural you automatically assume NrBnG will consist of repeats etc, and to an extent you are right, people will try this, there are some players who would do 1 shot an entire game to beat a noob that has never played before, but if that person tried that shit on me, they would get annihilated, I would hide under some tree they need to have knowledge of how to use the grenades afterbounces with max bounce etc to hit me, knowing if they DO hit me, the chances are it will be less than 50% damage, unless they get EXTREMELY lucky, now, assuming they missed, I can now come out a bit and hit them, and now I have the lead, if they try it again the same thing will happen, why? Because I know how to "trick BnG", so you are wrong Ramone, this would make BnG more skillful, more trickshots with the best players.

Think about it, some "lame" shot players might make the playoffs, but will get crushed by those who truly know how to use the grenade, any style, anywhere, any chance.

You are just scared of change and I don't blame you, I was the same way once, and WAY more passionate about BnG/trick shots/fair play than you or anyone in b2b.

Just as an experiment, why don't you host some NrBnG's, against complete noobs, they will try some easy shots, but after a few games with a "lamer" watch how they change their style once they realise that it doesn't work against a true BnG player, trust me, cuz if they don't they are stupid and will more than likely lose, and if you make the PO's you will be able to have your nice games with the other nice players. And if you are not good enough to beat a "lamer" then guess you are the one who needs to improve your skill huh?

In fact Ramone, "trick shots" are the ones that actually bore me, especially when most of the people who think they own at trick shots take multiple attempts and hit less than 10% in a whole game, that's pathetic, not skill.

[Abnaxus]

In fact Ramone, "trick shots" are the ones that actually bore me, especially when most of the people who think they own at trick shots take multiple attempts and hit less than 10% in a whole game, that's pathetic, not skill.

How dare you say this ?
Should I remind you we used to play that kind of games ? Where we were hitting so few times by trying hard and funny trick shots.
A guy missing his shots can find himself pathetic, but another people can't tell the same thing to him (or by a joking way).

You became pretty good at BnG, we can't lie on this, but you can't insult other people who are trying to.
I mean you can, but you won't have me on your side.

Atm, I need multiple attempts to hit a single 3sec nade. But back in the days, I used to be pretty good at this scheme mistaken with the current BnG.
And you'll never find me insulting a guy from being bad and/or trying to improve.

[TheKomodo]

Ab, I ain't insulting anyone, I am just telling it exactly how it is, it would be insulting if it were a lie, it's the truth, prove me wrong?

Ramone is my friend, so are you, I know our history, and our friendship, and that counts for that, but this is another matter.

And about 3s, and anything else, the more you play, the better you get, no excuses.

[Prankster]

Komo, I don't know those people who think they own at trick shots, but miss 90%. Who are you talking about? Can you name them? I'm really curious, because I'm pretty sure, that no one in b2b would say he owns with trick shots, but of course love trying them. In my eyes, and I think most of b2b members would agree, missing a nice shot 9 times to hit it for 10th doesn't look worse than to hit a basic shot at first try.

[TheKomodo]

Komo, I don't know those people who think they own at trick shots, but miss 90%. Who are you talking about? Can you name them? I'm really curious, because I'm pretty sure, that no one in b2b would say he owns with trick shots, but of course love trying them. In my eyes, and I think most of b2b members would agree, missing a nice shot 9 times to hit it for 10th doesn't look worse than to hit a basic shot at first try.

Anyone can attempt a trick shot, and hit it eventually, not everyone can outwit their opponent in NrBnG, test me?

[Prankster]

Komo, I don't know those people who think they own at trick shots, but miss 90%. Who are you talking about? Can you name them? I'm really curious, because I'm pretty sure, that no one in b2b would say he owns with trick shots, but of course love trying them. In my eyes, and I think most of b2b members would agree, missing a nice shot 9 times to hit it for 10th doesn't look worse than to hit a basic shot at first try.

Anyone can attempt a trick shot, and hit it eventually, not everyone can outwit their opponent in NrBnG, test me?

So what? You are totally missing my point. I'm not against nrbng, but against your attitude towards those who doesn't care so much about the win. Or else, you didn't answer my question.

[TheKomodo]

What point Prank? You haven't even made a point, I have...

[Prankster]

What point Prank? You haven't even made a point, I have...

Why did you quote me then? :O

Why did you start to talk about how good you are?
I did make a point, but you missed it and jumped on a shadow.
You said there are people who think they own at trick shots but they miss 90%, and can't hit a simple shot. You said that's pathetic. You said that to Ramone, remember? My point was that b2b members aren't like that, because we don't think we own with trick shots. Gosh, why do I have to write this all again, on a freaking phone..
So I ask again: who are those ppl you are talking about?

[lacoste]

Komo, I don't know those people who think they own at trick shots, but miss 90%. Who are you talking about? Can you name them? I'm really curious, because I'm pretty sure, that no one in b2b would say he owns with trick shots, but of course love trying them. In my eyes, and I think most of b2b members would agree, missing a nice shot 9 times to hit it for 10th doesn't look worse than to hit a basic shot at first try.

Anyone can attempt a trick shot, and hit it eventually, not everyone can outwit their opponent in NrBnG, test me?

Anyone can attempt, not everyone can minimise the failage factor to a minimum. Its very easy to spot difference in complex shot that was planned missing by those few pixels than multiple attempts without real sense. Its impossible being a human to hit perfectly complex shots whenever you want, even if you know how grenade behaves in every situation. Most of the time even robot wont be able to do so, coz of those few pixels difference. And relating to "that's pathetic, not skill" - you better hit the desk with your forehead, not enjoying it anymore? Leave it for others who love the game for such possibilities. Also, how many times did you try 1 shot being unlikely possible for 20 times, even asking your opponent to skip x consecutive turns coz you wanted it to hit badly?

[Maciej]

I already said, more than 3 times now, that I would start playing Leagues again if NrBnG was accepted

ye, we will change league rules because we miss you so much... No, we don't and won't. Drama