Season 34 playoffs

[avirex]

wtf? Twy, you cant complain about a bng map being 26 pixels larger on one side.. its bng, holy shit...

bng maps will never be 100% equal on both sides, if it was, that would be fort.


also, twy you cant try to use your "mod rights" in situations involving your clan, people like that should not be mods at all...


speaking of that, i feel if this situation was involving any other clan something would be done about it...


you guys cant manage to finish your playoffs game, neither clan deserves to advance imo... its been 59 days... and you guys are suggesting your next time over 10 days away.. this is ridiculous..


its now interfering with other season playoff games... both clans should be booted from this season for acting immature, and failure to play.

[Peja]

May i get your suggestion how to handle such a situation avi? You cant do much if your opppnent doesnt want to play at all. Bryan comes and says: dont have much Time. Lukz just says: next map next map. Impo makes maps like crazy. Then finally mr super mod is happy with a map but wants to add terrain to middle bay cos 25 pixels bigger than other side. Impo said it sucks he already converted into PNG so tag can see the map. We even offered tag to take bigger side if they want so we Can finally start. But Super mod twy found another loophole to avoid playing as he said: no map must be equal aef cant have disadvantage. Even we  couldnt see Any disadvantage.

So yeah avi what should we have done? We cant do more than offer tag to just take the side they think its better. Lukz would have kept to ask for new maps anyway until bryan finally had to go. I would be even fine letting a third party like barman host, but i wont give the host to tag just because they refuse maps in a row. I play since like 4 years, i never saw anyone refuse a bng map so far. Tag already refused 4 from us.
Twy even said in host the map is fine. Then somehow he came up with stuff about he didnt see pixels and one side is 25 longer.
But since you are the master of maturity im sure you can find 1 hour in your schedule where u can host a bng for aef and tag

   i would be thankful if you do because im getting sick of getting my people together for nothing.

[Twyrfher]

That was the only map near to be good for a PO finals after 3 or 4 maps ridiculous (did you see my draws?) and 30 minutes of waiting, but if a clan ask to change the map with an objective reason (one side was 25% wider than the other) for the very first time in a normal map, then I as a mod I will ask to made a new map, same on TTRR, Ropers, T17, a clan can't to force another one to play in a specific map. Of course that if a clan is not accepting every new map, I will take notice on that and probably I'll make a warning to them due that situation, but this wasn't that case. Actually, philie suggested me that AeF could play in the left side, but it is not a matter of who's playing where and who's not, I just asked for a new and more balanced map, then after that simple request the host was closed and Impo left Wormnet, or at least I didn't see him anymore.

Of course that I as player of one of the involved clans, plus being a mod, is something odd and it could be taken bad, but I'm being 100% objective with this, I'm explaining all the situation and the facts were presented with some draws, screenshots and logs. I asked by private to MI that take part in this due my biased position here as Peja said, but imo I'm just doing what I've did in any other circumstance with any clan.

you guys cant manage to finish your playoffs game, neither clan deserves to advance imo... its been 59 days

I know, that sucks, but I wasn't reading the TUS forum when this happened. TaG made the complaint a the same moment that this happened, with no answer at all from the moderators due several days, so when I saw this I started to try to fix it, and always in conversation with MI.

I don't know how many troubles had Bry4n and Lukz in the past in a single playoffs game, but in playoffs TaG never had this kind of situation, only now with Impo doing those kind of maps and closing the host with no answer to me, the mod. Why he couldn't put a normal map since the beginning?

[Peja]

i could just make huge post explaining what went wrong, but in the end you said map is fine.
[TaG`Twyrfher] this one? nothing,exept one side is a bit bigger.
to save time we sugegsted you to take the better side since we dont give a f@#! and consider the map as balanced. still u refused, dunno why if you think its a fine map and you are not in any disadvanatge.

but well, i dont mind to put end to this shit and forget about. we can try it again and please keep in mind tag has enough time to play an eventually 5 th game. dont show up again if you have time limitations. imo its best we just let a neutral side host a map who is available at this time in ag because im done with this shit. we could also agree to just change the pick since we keep having issues with maps. anyway talk about these options with your mate as soon as possible, then we dont need to waste more time until monkeyisland solves this complaint. tell me all your serious possbile playing times and make sure it really works. because im really sick of organising this shit since ages.

[Lukz]

and now, after peja's cry

aef, we can play between 3 nd 7 of february

aef can play in that days? and what hours?

[avirex]

Peja, nice sarcasm.. I know I'm not most immature.. but come on,itsa PO game and impo is drawing FU's on the map.. lol

Seriously tho, if what peja says is true.. tag deserves a loss for not playing, tag complained about even sides and aef offered to let you pick which side you want?

Tag still can't play? The first topic regarding this game was dec. 10th, now lukz wants to finish feb 7th? That's beyond sick...


Come on "you risk being kicked" mod... something tells me we have passed the deadline.... make a decision.

[barman]

I thought quitting/surrendering was equal to losing? Do different rules apply to playoff games?

[Lukz]

Tag still can't play? The first topic regarding this game was dec. 10th, now lukz wants to finish feb 7th? That's beyond sick...

exactly, why not? this situation is not just our fault, generally deadline applies when one or both clans dont show interest, but we're trying to play since December, and now the main cause of this is that impo delay the game 30min to put a decent map (and practically other 20 min for arribe and start the host)

[Peja]

@ avi

[2014-01-25 15.35.36] [philie`AeF] whats bad on that map?
[2014-01-25 15.35.52] [Lukz`TaG] u had like 50px more
[2014-01-25 15.35.54] [Lukz`TaG] :/
[2014-01-25 15.35.58] [TaG`Twyrfher] this one? nothing, all the previous one were ridiculous, I saw them all
[2014-01-25 15.36.01] [`-impo-] are you kidding?
[2014-01-25 15.36.07] [`-impo-] bigger side = easier to hit it
[2014-01-25 15.36.30] [TaG`Twyrfher] remove the middle part
[2014-01-25 15.36.34] [TaG`Twyrfher] make it flat
[2014-01-25 15.36.36] [TaG`Twyrfher] I mean
[2014-01-25 15.36.42] [`-impo-] i cant edit this map
[2014-01-25 15.36.43] [TaG`Twyrfher] the part without the map, just add it
[2014-01-25 15.36.48] [`-impo-] i already convert it into png
[2014-01-25 15.36.54] [TaG`Twyrfher] png? why for
[2014-01-25 15.36.58] [TaG`Twyrfher] ok
[2014-01-25 15.37.00] [`-impo-] lol.
[2014-01-25 15.37.04] [`-impo-] to show objects
[2014-01-25 15.37.31] [TaG`Twyrfher] make a new map 100% balanced
[2014-01-25 15.37.41] [TaG`Twyrfher] you can't start with a unbalance map on a final
[2014-01-25 15.37.48] [`-impo-] [TaG`Twyrfher] this one? nothing, all the previous one were ridiculous, I saw them all
   
[2014-01-25 15.38.01] [TaG`Twyrfher] i didn't see well the unbalance pixels
[2014-01-25 15.38.05] [TaG`Twyrfher] now I can see them, that's all
[2014-01-25 15.38.16] [Lukz`TaG] just remove the middle xd
[2014-01-25 15.38.31] [`-impo-] i need to open photoshop now
[2014-01-25 15.38.34] [`-impo-] to edit png map


[2014-01-25 15.40.01] [philie`AeF] tag wanna pick a side and start?
[2014-01-25 15.40.07] [TaG`Twyrfher] it's not about better or not, it's about advantage
[2014-01-25 15.40.10] [philie`AeF] sounds like a deal
[2014-01-25 15.40.13] [TaG`Twyrfher] no
[2014-01-25 15.40.15] [TaG`Twyrfher] neither
[2014-01-25 15.40.25] [TaG`Twyrfher] none clan has to have advantage

first he says map is fine, then he finds 20 pixel more on 1 side, then we offer to let them pick their side, then he still refuses.

first time they quitted, this time only bryan did light up. and now you want us to agree on another time? like i said, im tired of this bullshit and i wont arrange anything without a neutral host. we were ready to play 2 times, tag wasnt.

[Lukz]

first time they quitted, this time only bryan did light up. and now you want us to agree on another time? like i said, im tired of this bullshit and i wont arrange anything without a neutral host. we were ready to play 2 times, tag wasnt.

u don't want agree another date? are u saying that aef will not play?

i remember u that in 1st instance aef refused to replay coz they want report a free win and 2nd instance impo left and don't comeback, don't try said that TaG don't want play

[MonkeyIsland]

It's ridiculous. I'm getting fed up with this. Both by Aef's FU maps and TaG being obsessed with the map. Probably it's neither of those, it's just 2 "experienced" group of people can't manage to get a game done.

What's the point now? Even if you get the game done now, there's no fun, glory or anything in that. You just ruined the whole thing.
It's not obligatory to have a winner every season. I'll wait till Monday morning, if no games were done, I'll just close season #34 playoffs.

[Lukz]

glory xD

bryan will not be here until sunday in the night, can we play with another tag? or just wait for him, thanks

[SPW]

Its like parents saying to their kids. It needs always to sides for a fight!

Never happend in the past with "pro" clans like cfc, dt, ckc and ofc cf. Just ridicolous.

[Peja]

if you wanna sound cocky make sure you dont have a typo.

[SPW]

You know its true! Obvious its not the problem from you or philie. But you do have also some "weird" members in your clan. Its not only TAG, its also AeF.

Didnt understand your sentence by the way. But well, guess I didnt miss something important.