Almost every shot in the target!

[Sensei]

Honestly I'm sorry I passed on the info about Casso, it was secondhand info that was supposed to be indicative about people making scripts for BnG notching, not an indictment of the man himself. 

I'm not sure if he cheated and I don't really care at this point.

I like BnG.

nt wally, but you can't stop it at this point, nobody can.

 

[TheKomodo]

It's convenient that you took screenshots and kept logs of the times when I acted poorly, but none of the good things I done or said. This is typical in human behaviour when people truly have a selfish agenda, I threatened to remove you all but truly I just wanted us all to be a solid unit again.

While yes, I did lose myself and act out, it wasn't for no reason, I was provoked in disagreement and arguement, because some of you were getting annoyed and insulted me because I kept pestering you to get more active and play BnG, you act as if I was the only person who said or done some bad things, there were things said and done by other members that there are no logs of, promises made that were not kept, agreeing to be more active, yet not following through... I will never be able to prove some of the things I said, because I had trust and didn't ever think about recording conversations or logs to make you look bad. I don't have documents or recordings to go back and look over and quote the bad things you and others said and done.

You recorded my actions at my worst moments, which don't show the full story, it doesn't show both sides only your side, and you accuse me of toxic behaviour?

My mistake was agreeing to recruit members who did not take BnG seriously enough to be more involved, you even said yourself you didn't care much for that stuff, so why did you even bother to join in the 1st place? The name "born 2 bng" should be a hint for that, you all knew how serious I was about BnG and you all knew how much I encouraged people to be more active and more involved, the rest of the community viewed us as scheme specialists who took BnG to the next level, why is it such a bad thing that I wanted people to be more active and show more interest and involvement in the very thing b2b was created for? Some people looked up to us for our involvement with BnG and I was very proud of that, you should have been too!

I won't deny creating the b4b community, I cannot exactly remember the days leading up to that, or the days after, I remember doing it out of anger and desperation to find out what would happen, I was drunk and depressed when I did this, and it was that moment that truly pissed you guys off.

And yes, I did come back a while later threatening to take over b2b, another act of desperation and depression because that was the moment I realized you guys weren't doing anything to keep the scheme active or contribute and at that moment I wanted to try getting active and doing something again, at least I cared enough about BnG to make some noise about it, but in the end I came to the same conclusion and gave up.

Also, the idea to create b2b was mine alone, I asked wormf00d to join and be co-leader because I wanted someone who had the passion I did for the scheme to help and because he was one of my best friends and the best BnG player I knew at the time, the truth is he never wanted to do this I had to spend a while convincing him to do it, he put more effort into helping b2b than the rest of you combined and he is the real reason I never took control of b2b, I respected him too much.

[lacoste]

What, of course no one is an angel, but you initiated all the recruitment, you said it yourself, you knew everyone of us prior to that (i bet my balls you didnt really know most of the new wave of people from tus era before invitation), no one has signed to be your orchestra in the future, people joined because they were into bng at that time (some still are, but inactive, including me), they liked each others company and b2b was a premium community, a true distinction, a honor to be in, it was a group from which you dont just quit because you lose interest.  How many quality clans/communities you know that survived that long, and good number of people are loyal and still hang with eachother briefly or even daily?  People come and go/lose interest/have other personal reasons in these few groups,  yet noone's doing a big deal about it, especialy in public and behind eachothers back.
What is the most interesting though, is that you keep talking  about zero contribution to this game from all of us. Be objective for once and look at this list of people, all initiated more or less by yourself:

GreeN
Ramone
surgeon
obscure
Mablak
darKz 
KoreanRedDragon
lacoste
skime
OutofOrder
dilligaf
Prankster
cOke (madog)
Dead
Husk
Dub-C

You must have had good info about all of them before they wore b2b tag and during that time. Some were around for just enjoying themselves - playing casually and hanging around, some, besides that, were involved with beta updates, liga worms, worm tube, movies, maps, guides, wiki,  being helpful to newcomers and pointing in the right direction, or in other projects - directly related to bng or not, some practiced notching, others were sitting only on IRC besides playing casually and rarely, all before and long after joining b2b, some disappeared shortly after joining, shit happens. Anything ring a bell? Check the list of names again or ask others from around the active times, some are still around here. It doesnt even matter how long or how much they were involved, what matters is that b2b shares similar passion, and if we have disputes they are handled internally. You are the exception for the latter, unfortunately, and please dont say you have tried to talk to us like a bro before shit did hit the fan because this is not how it works. Instead you looked at everything from under your arse, like if we had some obligations to fulfill your future desires, and guess what? You turned blind eye on positive things people did as well, regularly, to this day. And me saying "I dont care about these things" is another lie you bring, if i said anything that comes close to that its useless without you quoting context of that talk, I know how much passion i had for this game, including but not limited to bng, which is one of my favourite schemes.
As of logs, IRC keeps them unless you turn them off, replays keep them unless you delete them, TUS also has it all recorded. We all have access to that material, including you, just some people dont bother to look at them and make healthy coclusion based on what has been said and done, and instead rely on bad memory and imagination.

[TheKomodo]

I did not say anyone done nothing the entire time, I said people got lazy before I left and after I left you've done nothing, can you prove me wrong? I don't mean playing games with other b2b members, I mean reaching out to the community doing as we did before. I rarely saw any of you online on wnet after I left.

Nobody was initiated all by myself apart from wormf00d, because he was the 1st to join, we always held a vote, unless you specifically mean send the invite on TUS or tell them they were accepted, that's more than likely because it was a great feeling to give good news to someone, and I was around almost 24/7 to do so.

Not everything was recorded, there were a few discussions in private not via IRC/TUS and I didn't even know IRC kept logs like that because I remember trying to find them after the stuff you guys posted, nice to know for future reference though, although I doubt i'll be using IRC much in future.

Either way, what's done is done, and regardless of how I acted, then my exit from b2b, it's still extremely sad that none of you even attempted to continue the legacy we all created with the community, that is what truly broke my heart.

[lacoste]

I did not say anyone done nothing the entire time

Thats not what i wrote. I said people didnt change their mindset and what they were doing from right before joining until today, but you kept whining more and more. If anything, they got inactive, which in some cases means losing interest, nothing wrong with that. Its just once you were in you were loud, so people were more involved and WA community as a whole was much more active, after you left things regarding b2b went quiet (mostly publicly) because hey, isn't it obvious. Theres no doubt you were the most into it, at what cost though. You wouldnt be able to change us, especialy not via the path you took.

[TheKomodo]

I did not say anyone done nothing the entire time

Thats not what i wrote. I said people didnt change their mindset and what they were doing from right before joining until today, but you kept whining more and more.

I'm not trying to be a dick but you said this:

What is the most interesting though, is that you keep talking  about zero contribution to this game from all of us.

This kind of mistake/accident was also the cause of a lot of arguements between myself and other b2b members, as well as many, many people during my time on WA.

Those words claim I accuse you all of doing absolutely nothing, ever, which isn't what I said, I understand it was a mistake, but please be more careful choosing your words, i've grown a lot since those days and can spot things like this better than I could before and can control my actions better.

I don't understand this, I understand the words but not the actions... What was so special about me? Why did I have to be around encouraging everything, it's as if you say without me there was never a b2b at all, and I fail to believe that because we all made it special.

[lacoste]

"Those words claim I accuse you all of doing absolutely nothing, ever"
Komo, look:

Komo's apetite grew larger and larger, and later started accusing us of doing literally nothing, even being inactive.

I said that 2 posts of mine earlier, does it matter?
I could go and spend a few days bothering to find all your quotes said in the past on TUS regarding this issue and we could add them up to form something that makes more sense. Is this really necessary? Im pretty sure i have a better memory than you do.

[sock]

Is it necessary for someone to say that they are pretty sure that they have a better memory than someone else?

[lacoste]

Nope

[sock]

Agreed

[lacoste]

Thanks

[TheKomodo]

lacoste you can't even understand English now.

Of the 2 quotes, 1 means along the way, you started to do nothing, meaning you used to be involved, the other means you done nothing at any point whatsoever.

There is a massive difference and you are a massive tool if you can't tell the difference.

I tried to be nice about this, but you turned out to be a dick 1st, so whatever.

[lacoste]

The second post doesnt even contain any specific point in time, which doesnt change what i said in the first post. I agree our disputes were often full of pointing out language barriers and not understanding eachother, and its another issue with you, endless misunderstandings, turning topic discussion into choose-better-words-fest kind of tactic, which led to one side getting bored of continuing it. It wouldnt be that bad if it wasnt notorious, and i assure you that there was no other person in my online life that caused so many problems of that kind in a discussion. You love to talk, you are overactive and you often go into unnecessary disputes for whatever reasons, a mix that explains actions without much thinking about it. Also check this (im not suggesting anything!): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

[TheKomodo]

I understand English and if someone says something, that's what I take from it, if you say one thing but you meant another, especially when it's an accusation that claims I done bad things, I cannot just accept it, I must either question it or fight it.

Even now you still can't just say "Sorry, that isn't what I meant to say", or "I meant to say this...", you still fight me on it, this is why I get angry with people around there because they cannot admit when they are wrong! At least I admit when I was wrong and acted poorly, I said sorry for the things I done, none of you ever apologized!

See, this kind of thing makes me laugh lacoste, this is the kind of level people stoop to when faced with a person who continues to fight and unwilling to give up like me.

You suggest that I am some sort of evil person, brand me as a dark triad??? That is extremely selfish and toxic behaviour.

Not once have I ever branded any of you with such ridiculous statements, I have never condemned your life or what you stand for or what you believe in, i've only ever fought in the moment and yet still have respect for all the good things we shared, but you, you hold this sick twisted sense of self-belief that I am an evil person who only cares about himself, you do not know of the many years of pain and suffering I go through because I wish the world was a better place, you do not know of my love for all living things, you do not know of the tears I shed when I see acts of animal cruelty or anything else I am passionate and caring about.

I've offered to send money to players to get better equipment, i've offered my hospitality and my house to people less fortunate than myself, I am always seeking out ways to do good things for good people, even when I lost my job and had next to no money I gave a girl £140 so she could get xmas presents for her kid! I've helped and cared for stray cats that have been neglected from their owners, there is actually a cat here who constantly meows outside my window and I throw some of the cat food I have for my cat down so it has something to eat, I even took a video of this before because it's such a lovely cat

I did not just 1 day turn round and unleash a barrage of evil upon any of you in b2b, it started with a pleasant request to b2b members to get more active, the 1st time I remember getting pissed off is because a few members made promises to help out with projects and Tournaments, and then broke those promises. I understand life can change things, and life is more important than a game, but when you fail to notify a person you cannot show up and leave them hanging, that is a sign of disrespect which I do not tolerate and got angry about and it led to arguements with some people, and over time it just got worse and worse, then the thing with notching happened and that threw me over the edge.

You hate me but I do not hate you, when I think about you personally lacoste I do not think solely of the dispute between us, you impressed me with your passion for this game, not only with BnG but your videos you made showcasing your skills. I have no doubt in your life outside this game you have your strengths and weaknesses, things you are good at and things you are bad at, you've done good things and also bad things like most humans and I think you lead a life of good intentions but when I say I care nothing about you anymore it simply means I understand that you will never see light between us, but I still wish you happiness and success in your life.

I never once wanted to control any of you, all I ever wanted was for you to either get active, or leave b2b, entitled to rejoin whenever you want as your name would always be there as a part of the community, but none of you could accept that.

[Sensei]

Lol, from being expelled of worms community to saving stray cats. Impressive train of thoughts. If you continue commenting, lacoste, this is probably just gonna get better, so please do.