you look like you are sucking in, Walrus 
shady, I was always under the impression that supplements were a huge waste of money... also read many articles saying that most of studies involving supplements were done by people who were hired by the supplement industry... doesn't sound very trustworthy.
He posted a progress photo, which takes balls. Who cares of what he is doing or how he looks. It's motivation for him, myself, and others - ya know?
As far as supplements being a waste of money... That's all relative to what you believe your money is worth lol.
As far as supplements being bullshit... some are, no question about it. Those are the ones that don't do well and aren't reviewed by hundreds etc. The supplement industry is a multi-billion dollar industry; there are bound to be thieves in there.
To go as far as saying all supplements aren't effective or do as promised is a blanket statement. That's certainly not true.
Madog was pretty much on the money when it came down to breaking down my stack.
Everything I am currently taking [with the exception of OxyElite, which I haven't started taking yet], are all natural dietary supplements that you get from food. The problem is when you're an athlete or working out in a gym, in order to receive the proper amount of nutrients and vitamins, you'd go broke based on cost of food, and you'd be sick as a dog to eat that much.
Protein, Creatine, BCAA's, and Glutamine have all been researched and tested for decades now. They are effective; and they 10000% provide results. That being said, the results vary from person to person - but they're all COMPLETELY beneficial to athletic training. Protein and creatine work hand in hand to build muscle, and delivery hydration to your muscles.
BCAAs/Glutamine help with recovery of muscle [since working out is tearing/ripping muscle and letting it rebuild], as well as they slow down the rate at which your body burns muscle... So by taking these, the rate at which muscle burns becomes even slower even if the rate at which you're burning fat increases.
CLA is heavily researched, but results vary completely. It typically comes naturally from salmon, but by increasing the dosage, studies show that it has anti-cancerous properties, and is a natural fat burner.
Optimen is in my mind, the best vitamin on the market.
Also I disagree with nino to an extent on roids; which I have no problem going into further detail to discuss when I have a bit more time.
I haven't ever taken them; but I wanted to and considered it in the past... I researched heavily, and know quite a damn bit about them considering a lot of my friends have taken them, and my extended family is comprised of all heart surgeons and gastrointestinal surgeons...
After extensive research I became against using gear like that and the only time I can sympathize and agree with people using them is when it's directly correlated to one's income and/or under the guidance of an endocrinologist due to a disability to produce sufficient hormone levels.
Edit: Forgot to mention that fish oil is a completely proven supplement as well. There is a laundry list of benefits that fish oil provides... Things such as keeping your joints lubricated, anti-cancerous properties, preventative of heart disease/alzheimers... the list is huge. Def worth taking regardless of whether or not you burp up fish smells.
Optimum Nutritions fish oil pills do not have a taste or a smell whatsoever. I never burp up anything like that.
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