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The Big Religion/God Debate

Started by Cueshark, September 28, 2010, 01:09 PM

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Aerox

Quote from: Peja on July 24, 2011, 02:44 PM
Quote from: ropa on July 24, 2011, 02:26 PM
Quote from: DarkOne on July 24, 2011, 02:19 PM
What about flying spaghetti monsters, ropa? :o

there's two theories that prove that if earth was able to reset indefinetly to an era without religion that eventually, humans would be worshipping anything you could possibly imagine, including flying spaghetti monsters.

yeah your so f@#!in right ropa:) greetings from van brinski, an over 10000 years old samurai (ye samurai founder and also an excellent supernatural entity) riding on his purple steed with ivory tooth. i always enjoy our meetings.

why are these idiots allowed to thread shit at free will?
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.


Desetroyah

What God? What debate? Whoever wants an imaginary friend they should make their own and not take existing ones.

PS: not even the spaghetti monster rodie ^^


Peja

i dont see any difference between someone who believes in god and someone who says god is certainly non existent. Because both are believing in something not proven.

Desetroyah

#199
Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
i dont see any difference between someone who believes in god and someone who says god is certainly non existent. Because both are believing in something not proven.


I do see a difference because one chooses to believe things written to guide savages (all of human kind was kinda shit back then so they needed the "boogieman") and choose to have "faith" instead of "thought". "faith" is just another word for "submission", ppl who want someone to tell them what to do.

Thinking leaves the beauty of discovering where we come from, whereas religions claim to have all the answers without trying to prove anything -mostly because they cant.

I dont "hate" religious ppl, I "hate" only organised religion. However, I never take religious ppl seriously.


Aerox

Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
i dont see any difference between someone who believes in god and someone who says god is certainly non existent. Because both are believing in something not proven.

You're very naive or trying very hard to come up with an opinion that differentiates you from the social mass.

There's no such a thing as a proof for something to not exist, you're basically saying it's fine to believe in anything your mind can imagine.
You cannot prove something doesn't exist in an expanding universe.

MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

DarkOne

I loved the way Douglas Adams thinks religion came about :)
Basically, mankind evolved into using tools and everything he therefore makes also has a purpose.
So then he starts to think what the purpose is of caves and rivers and trees and mammoths (mammoths are great! you can make clothes out of its fur, you can eat its meat and you can use its tusks to make weapons to kill other mammoths!).
"Well, they seem to make my life much easier, so they must've been made for me! But who made them? Must be someone who looks like me, because we're the only kind that makes tools. He has to be bigger, because he can make really big things that I can't. And he has to be invisible, because I can't see him."

It all started from the misconception that something has to have been "made".

Aerox

#202
Quote from: DarkOne on July 25, 2011, 04:42 PM
I loved the way Douglas Adams thinks religion came about :)
Basically, mankind evolved into using tools and everything he therefore makes also has a purpose.
So then he starts to think what the purpose is of caves and rivers and trees and mammoths (mammoths are great! you can make clothes out of its fur, you can eat its meat and you can use its tusks to make weapons to kill other mammoths!).
"Well, they seem to make my life much easier, so they must've been made for me! But who made them? Must be someone who looks like me, because we're the only kind that makes tools. He has to be bigger, because he can make really big things that I can't. And he has to be invisible, because I can't see him."

It all started from the misconception that something has to have been "made".

that reminds me of TED (http://www.ted.com/)
I'd say around 80% of the videos contain at least one mention of religion that's basically applied logic dressed as humor.

edit: that speech is actually on TED
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

Peja

Quote from: ropa on July 25, 2011, 11:25 AM
Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
i dont see any difference between someone who believes in god and someone who says god is certainly non existent. Because both are believing in something not proven.

You're very naive or trying very hard to come up with an opinion that differentiates you from the social mass.

There's no such a thing as a proof for something to not exist, you're basically saying it's fine to believe in anything your mind can imagine.

your right im a supporter of constructivism, you totally got my point.

Aerox

#204
Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 04:51 PM
Quote from: ropa on July 25, 2011, 11:25 AM
Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
i dont see any difference between someone who believes in god and someone who says god is certainly non existent. Because both are believing in something not proven.

You're very naive or trying very hard to come up with an opinion that differentiates you from the social mass.

There's no such a thing as a proof for something to not exist, you're basically saying it's fine to believe in anything your mind can imagine.

your right im a supporter of constructivism, you totally got my point.

and I'm a supporter of
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/richard_dawkins_on_militant_atheism.html

"all of humanity is atheist to most gods, us atheist just go one god further"

two more for those who like listening to intelligent people talk:
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/julia_sweeney_on_letting_go_of_god.html
MonkeyIsland, my friend, I know your english is terrible and your understanding of society limited. However, in real life, people attack and humiliate others without the use of a single bad word. They even go to war with lengthy politeness. You can't base the whole moderation philosophy of a community based on the use of bad words and your struggle with sarcasm and irony. My attack to Jonno was fully justified and of proper good taste.
Eat a bag full of dicks.

Chelsea


Cueshark

Quote from: ropa on July 25, 2011, 04:52 PM
Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 04:51 PM
Quote from: ropa on July 25, 2011, 11:25 AM
Quote from: Peja on July 25, 2011, 10:38 AM
i dont see any difference between someone who believes in god and someone who says god is certainly non existent. Because both are believing in something not proven.

You're very naive or trying very hard to come up with an opinion that differentiates you from the social mass.

There's no such a thing as a proof for something to not exist, you're basically saying it's fine to believe in anything your mind can imagine.

your right im a supporter of constructivism, you totally got my point.

and I'm a supporter of
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/richard_dawkins_on_militant_atheism.html

"all of humanity is atheist to most gods, us atheist just go one god further"

two more for those who like listening to intelligent people talk:
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/julia_sweeney_on_letting_go_of_god.html

Your stance on this topic appears to be staggeringly close to mine.

Kangaroo

Who Created the creator? and who Created the creator creator? and who created the creator creator creator?

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I can play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends...

Peja

Quote from: pizzasheet on August 10, 2011, 03:33 AM
Who Created the creator? and who Created the creator creator? and who created the creator creator creator?

she did:


dilligaf

Everyone should have their own idea of a god and not have to go to church to be told what their god wants them to be like.