wkWormOrder v. 1.2.0 released

[Chicken23]

Notching in Bng is completely different and isn't against the rules, what is against the Bng rules is visual cheat sheets (that notches use). Also your not looking at the points Komodo made about the difference between BnG and Inter in the CWT debate...

Komodo clearly said that he notched and notching is a style of aim. I can look at the distance between 2 worms and guess that it is 3 movements of the grenade sprite, plus 4 taps for example, and whisper that to my opponent. That isn't notching. It's just using my experience of having bng'd for 20 years to guess the distance and aim and communicate it with a teammate. Putting up a piece of paper to the screen with all the distances and number of taps is the cheating element.

We're going into Bng notching which is off-topic to the wkwormorder module.

[Kaleu]

Notching isn't against the rules as much as this module, this is a matter of personal opinion/recognition. You think notching isn't but I think it does, you can't change my mind on that.
Just like using rulers for kami etc.

I don't even want to get into that subject because my post was about the lies told here, you are the one extending this.

[Chicken23]

the opinion difference is that i believe visual aids are still prone to human error, the quality of your visual aid and still requires human use.

This wormkit module leaves nothing to human use and is 100% fully automated and therefore IMO, a cheat tool.

[TheKomodo]

Nice try though donnie, though as usual you are wrong, i've only ever played 3 BnGs with barman and they weren't even clanners.

Really man? It's easy to play fool with Albus regarding TUS past history as he was not around as much as us but that aint happenng with me. I could assume you forgot being in AeF with barman but you proved to be a liar in the last few days (telling us you didn't know about /order feature when nizikawa pmed you before the release about that), you proven to be willing to do anything to not confess guilty or wrong so whatever you say man.

From now on I encourage people to not to take your opinions seriously thus I would kindly ask MI to discharge you from any administrative role on this site as your attitudes do not convey credibility and isn't in any form impartial, this is dangerous.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-152164/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-149429/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-146076/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-145843/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-142719/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-142417/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-141835/



And those were the BnG games I found in the first 15 pages, can't worry to search for more, and for the record I just blocked you on TUS forums, dishonest prick.

I stand corrected lol, thanks though I thought I was going crazy because when I done a search for "komito barman" i got this:



Was trying to find games with AeF and couldn't find them! Thank you.

Though as you can see, I said "Been a while since I notched I can't even tell anymore", I was giving barman suggestions and wasn't actually notching myself.

And of course, that information is public and not hidden since players can read whispers and we are aware of that.

[Memox]

you just ruined the whole online gaming a bit nizikawa, and you also managed to put oldtimer and newbie players in a situation in which they are seriously thinking of rather not even playing any games anymore other than races (or schemes where you play with 1-2 worms)
thanks bro 'priciate it

the community got even thinner by this. but hey, at least you don't need to waste too much paper and pen at your home anymore

hero of 2021 <3

Thanks for your valuable input, Lupastic.
I have taken your suggestions into consideration and as result I was able to develop a new, improved wormkit module to address the issues of wkWormOrder just for you.
I hope you will enjoy using this new module.

Unfathomably based ngl, nizikawa honorary veteran

[TheWalrus]

Nice try though donnie, though as usual you are wrong, i've only ever played 3 BnGs with barman and they weren't even clanners.

Really man? It's easy to play fool with Albus regarding TUS past history as he was not around as much as us but that aint happenng with me. I could assume you forgot being in AeF with barman but you proved to be a liar in the last few days (telling us you didn't know about /order feature when nizikawa pmed you before the release about that), you proven to be willing to do anything to not confess guilty or wrong so whatever you say man.

From now on I encourage people to not to take your opinions seriously thus I would kindly ask MI to discharge you from any administrative role on this site as your attitudes do not convey credibility and isn't in any form impartial, this is dangerous.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-152164/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-149429/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-146076/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-145843/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-142719/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-142417/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-141835/



And those were the BnG games I found in the first 15 pages, can't worry to search for more, and for the record I just blocked you on TUS forums, dishonest prick.

I know you've changed a lot, certainly for the better, and I think you've learned from your mistakes, but are we just going to ignore the fact you used a program years ago to cheat during league games?  If komo is dishonest and a hypocrite, you are surely every bit as dishonest and also a hypocrite, if not more so, he didn't use a 3rd party program.  The point is, if modules/programs whatever exist to gain an edge, people will use them, you certainly used xspeed or whatever the hell it was called to try to get away with an unfair edge. 

Point being, lets keep it to the conversation at hand, not track records.  The discussion of hypocrisy is not beneficial.

[Kaleu]

No it wasnt xspeed or whatever you think, please don't jump into the thread and assume things you don't know or witnessed if you can't bother to go back and read about it. I had 1 game void vs Random00 because I had a macro for "T" which made people uncomfortable seeing my worm thinking bubble popping up a lot (LOL), but I was like 13yo and didnt know english as good as today (still bad but works). So I just accepted the decisions, if it was today I would never accept that as this is something harmless.

There was also this autohotkey script which was considered illegal but that was zippo who posted it in tus forums like months or years ago before people discovered about it, he sent the link to me. I also accepted the guilty because I couldnt bother to defend, 0 knowledge of english and I didn't care cause I played with 1 space most of the time. Then MI unblocked autohotkey again. Same case here, some people were ok with autohotkey and some doesnt.

Btw I call him dishonest because he is a LIAR, not because I think he cheats or notches, I don't care if he cheats, its not up for me to make justice and point finger, it's completely different.

Edit: I found out you were accusing in my back without any chances of me defending myself as I don't make part of that server you were posting: https://i.imgur.com/n9csXwc.png
I can say you are a dishonest person too and you are going beyond the gray area here. You shoudlnt call someone out for using it when they clearly didn't think or know it was cheating, it would be a different story if the script/module was banned.
I'd risk and say you now look even more than dishonest person because you are disseminating stuff you can't bother to go back and read properly, you are literally influencing people that dont know me to think I'm a cheater.

[Sir-J]

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[Memox]

Here's a simple trick I use to remember my own turn order. I take a random 8-letter word, let's say 'Absolute', and use every letter as a starting letter for worm names. Example: 1. Anthony 2. Brian 3. Samuel 4. Olly 5. Luke 6. Underdog 7. Tony 8. Elias.

Memory is still required, but it is much easier to remember 1 word rather than 8 worm names. That way I can still play leagues in case wkWormOrder gets banned.

Or is it cheating too?!

That's the point, apparently having a module that says your order VS a post-it note glued ON TOP OF YOUR SCREEN DOING THE SAME... Is not the same thing! The former being cheating while the latter isn't... lmao & smfh and I don't even use the freakin module.

[Albus]

Here's a simple trick I use to remember my own turn order. I take a random 8-letter word, let's say 'Absolute', and use every letter as a starting letter for worm names. Example: 1. Anthony 2. Brian 3. Samuel 4. Olly 5. Luke 6. Underdog 7. Tony 8. Elias.

Memory is still required, but it is much easier to remember 1 word rather than 8 worm names. That way I can still play leagues in case wkWormOrder gets banned.

Or is it cheating too?!

Good idea. If they ban the module I will use your idea. Liked it!

[TheWalrus]

No it wasnt xspeed or whatever you think, please don't jump into the thread and assume things you don't know or witnessed if you can't bother to go back and read about it. I had 1 game void vs Random00 because I had a macro for "T" which made people uncomfortable seeing my worm thinking bubble popping up a lot (LOL), but I was like 13yo and didnt know english as good as today (still bad but works). So I just accepted the decisions, if it was today I would never accept that as this is something harmless.

There was also this autohotkey script which was considered illegal but that was zippo who posted it in tus forums like months or years ago before people discovered about it, he sent the link to me. I also accepted the guilty because I couldnt bother to defend, 0 knowledge of english and I didn't care cause I played with 1 space most of the time. Then MI unblocked autohotkey again. Same case here, some people were ok with autohotkey and some doesnt.

Btw I call him dishonest because he is a LIAR, not because I think he cheats or notches, I don't care if he cheats, its not up for me to make justice and point finger, it's completely different.

Fair enough, I haven't really investigated it myself, just heard this secondhand from your clanmate lalo years ago, I can't even remember the specifics.  I thought it was xspeed, maybe not.  This thread has been derailed and devolved into personal attacks, and it is getting nowhere beneficial.  Someone did find a funny thread where you and komo were arguing about bng though, seems to also back up what you were saying about not using xspeed and using ahk only:

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-59670/?start=15#top

Here we are 10 years later, doesn't anything ever change?  I do know you've grown up a lot since then, maybe we all have, lets have a civil conversation about this?  And change the old script of arguing and pointing the finger at one another.  Komo and you both need to take a step back imo

[Kaleu]

Nice found, btw the script was not a macro, it just ignored when another key was hold, it's hard to explain you need to try it yourself, though it was just proven through the years to be a result of envy as the script didnt give any miraculous advantage as people tried to make it look like. Its funny and cringe to read my messages back then and the fuss people made about something so harmless.
By the way I edited my previous post and looks like you missed it, I won't have any chats with you or Komito because you are clanmates and for sure backing up each other. But the main reason is your opinion towards me calling me out cheater in public to strangers when I'm not around (check screenshot). You have no right demand a civil conversation when you do that towards me.
Sorry for offtopic guys, some things just needs to be exposed.

[TheWalrus]

Nice found, btw the script was not a macro, it just ignored when another key was hold, it's hard to explain you need to try it yourself, though it was just proven through the years to be a result of envy as the script didnt give any miraculous advantage as people tried to make it look like. Its funny and cringe to read my messages back then and the fuss people made about something so harmless.
By the way I edited my post and looks like you missed it, I won't have any chats with you or Komito because you are clanmates and for sure backing up each other. But the main reason is your opinion towards me calling me out cheater in public to strangers when I'm not around (check screenshot).

I'm sorry you feel that way, thought you had matured a little bit since then but I guess not.  If you feel weird or upset about being called out for using well known exploits like AHK macros and the water module, perhaps you should have considered that before using them.  We all have to be accountable for our actions, whether they be idiotic or hypocritical, and I am guilty of both at times. 

My posts have nothing to do with komo being a clanmate, Dave and I have had many arguments over the years when I feel he is wrong, I tell him, at times we haven't talked for months, but I tell him when he is wrong.  Playing the victim in this situation is yet another example of a complete lack of accountability for any of your actions.  You wish to live in a world where you can point out the hypocrisies of others, and dodge any sort of accountability for your own actions, even if they run parallel to the discussions at hand.  This doesn't exist in a public forum.

Ignore me if you must though, whatever doesn't disturb your narrative.

Edit: I found out you were accusing in my back without any chances of me defending myself as I don't make part of that server you were posting: https://i.imgur.com/n9csXwc.png
I can say you are a dishonest person too and you are going beyond the gray area here. You shoudlnt call someone out for using it when they clearly didn't think or know it was cheating, it would be a different story if the script/module was banned.
I'd risk and say you now look even more than dishonest person because you are disseminating stuff you can't bother to go back and read properly, you are literally influencing people that dont know me to think I'm a cheater.

So what was I dishonest about?  You already admitted to downloading an illegal script and using it.  I wasn't going to post these but here we go, even your own clanmates know you are cheating:

https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/cheater-7225/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-75884/
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-59670/

But I'm the dishonest one, right?  Give me one dishonest thing I've said in this whole thread?

[Kaleu]

Yeah, having a macro that presses T for me is so unfair advantage. I can't sleep at night thinking about how many matches I ruined back then, what a torture.
Whatever you guys say man. 

[TheWalrus]

Yeah, having a macro that presses T for me is so unfair advantage. I can't sleep at night thinking about how many matches I ruined back then, what a torture.
Whatever you guys say man. 

Try being accountable for your actions without going into full victim mode?  It's kind of hard to have a dialogue with you playing the victim of 'ol evil komo and walrus.

As those games in the threads show, its not just pressing T, that much is obvious, but again your victim stance is driving this thread offtopic, lets get back to where we were.