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Will you be more active on WA when 3.8 comes?

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LilScrappy94:
People come and go, but the game is still alive.

The community always been great, many people bring their personal touch to it, trying to build things.
I remember worms-league.com, blamethepixel ... Many many projects has been done and many are still to come.
This is not what i call a dead game or community

I play many games, as a casual for some, profesionally for others. Worms community is one of the best when its about creativity.

cheers guys, 3.8 is coming soon  :P

Kradie:
I've been telling people to stop living in a bubble, and just meet new active players. At first I thought LilScrappy aka DawgyStyle was just another alias, but I was wrong! Game still strong!

Back in the days when an update came, people were hyped and just happy to get it. Today, new and current people can be hyped and appreciative over new update, just like old times. So I think this 3.8 update will hold us together. So in 10 years time, maybe today's current players will complain about WA not being the same :D So who cares, time marches on.

skunk3:

--- Quote from: Sensei on July 06, 2020, 12:15 AM ---Lolicon-guy, your post was quite a mess. I tried to understand it, but you were jumping from democracy in community, to DC having mental issues, to psycho killers.. :) Gotta admit, fun train of thoughts. Almost felt like you're trolling everyone who decides to read it. Maybe I'm just too stupid to understand it.  ::)


--- Quote from: skunk3 on July 05, 2020, 09:45 PM ---While it can be argued that it's never too late for an update, as far as I am concerned, it is already far too late because the best era of W:A is long gone and the vast majority of the most interesting / fun / skilled players no longer play and likely will never be active again.

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I don't know where you're getting all this negativity from. It feels like you, me, and couple of other ppl around here doing same conversations over and over again. "Interesting/fun/skilled players are gone" Cmon dude. What you're saying right now is outright lame! You're living in some kind of a 'last century WA bubble', not letting anyone come close to it cause it may burst eventually.. If you really believe in words you just said, then you're delusional as well.
LilScrappy - couple of weeks ago this was just a name I knew from few of our twitch big rr/aerial sessions when he would jump in and chat about WA. Then I started seeing him in games every night and we got to talk. I mentioned poker one night and he revealed he's playing poker for living. Week after I see him hosting Big RR tournament on TUS with 200$ prize pool. Not interesting enough for you?

Legion was a nick never to be seen around Wormnet, until 2019. Then he started joining community chats/games, he made a program that lets you make your own Big RR map in few clicks.. Not to mention he's one of the scariest big rope racers in the game right now, especially when it comes to challenges. Not skilled enough for you?

Cueshark is a grown ass man,40+, got kids to feed.. came back to wa recently and enjoying every minute he gets to play it. Making new schemes, posting new youtube vids.. Voice chatting, drinking beers and having good time with anyone who's online. Not to mention guy is a fkn community legend. I also bet he's more thrilled to see a total newbie getting interested in WA after 20 yrs, than to play again with any other legend from old era.  Not fun enough for you?


I see you come online, host a game in 2 seconds and close it in next 10 seconds. 12 seconds of your lobby time is not actually "i'm looking for some fun time, so came to socialise on wormnet" kind of style. You keep distancing from community while also keep saying everyone suck nowadays. I don't see any sense of you keep playing WA with this attitude. Personally, I would be long gone if feeling this way.



--- Quote from: j0e on July 05, 2020, 10:33 PM ---Gotta give props to Sensei for making that server and for his leadership with organizing games.

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We're getting some great numbers there and lot of newcomers getting interested in the game. Community is where props need to be given, not me! Appreciate your words, nevertheless.

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Those who still play the game on a regular basis are, on average, not nearly as skilled or as interesting as those active years ago. (Personal opinion.) I am not saying that there aren't cool and skilled people who still play the game. I am just saying that comparatively speaking, the current situation isn't even close to what it once was... and I'm not even talking about general activity level on the server. It just simply is not the same experience.

I enjoy the game itself with the various schemes, but what really makes Worms special for me is the community of people who I have gotten to know over the past 20+ years. Every time someone becomes inactive for whatever reason, I find that my enjoyment of the game diminishes little by little.

When I log onto WormNET I rarely see any familiar names that aren't snooping. Rather than join an Intermediate hosted by some unknown Argentinian, I typically just host up a Big RR for myself to practice. I'll play a few games and log off. It doesn't take long to scan the player list, so there's no need to sit around in AG longer than a few seconds. I am not distancing myself from anyone nor am I insulting anyone aside from random noobs, lol.

I used to get so sick of people spamming chat with "(fill in current league/ladder name) NE1????" and people trying to set up clanners and stuff. Ironically, I'd actually love to see that kind of commitment again, even if I don't personally enjoy playing in leagues.

Kradie:

--- Quote ---Those who still play the game on a regular basis are, on average, not nearly as skilled or as interesting as those active years ago. (Personal opinion.) I am not saying that there aren't cool and skilled people who still play the game. I am just saying that comparatively speaking, the current situation isn't even close to what it once was... and I'm not even talking about general activity level on the server. It just simply is not the same experience.
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So let me get this straight....  In skill wise, everyone has to rope super duper fast like saltyk9, Anubis, Mablak, Fudo, Noentity,, and so on to make them interesting? A human being at decent skill level can be much as interesting in WA as any  other high skilled human. There aren't much ropers around with high speed as it once were, but that doesn't make people boring. Same goes for land schemes.

Instead of emphasizing how much you miss the past, wish things were like the past, try instead to be some sort of a mentor to the current generation wormers. Show interest, show moves in various of schemes that they don't know about. Impress them with your knowledge and moves. Yes it can be tiring, boring, and so on. Some might not even care and just quit, I have dealt with that a lot and it is frustrating.

Many on Worms don't even know about this update, and once it will be released, people will be shocked, that a 20 year old game got a new fresh update! I am sure it will help WA in some capacity to gain interest of others. WA still sells well on Steam too, so it's not like it is dying. So don't give up hope! Get out off your bubble and seize the opportunity :)

skunk3:

--- Quote from: Kradie on July 07, 2020, 02:45 PM ---
--- Quote ---Those who still play the game on a regular basis are, on average, not nearly as skilled or as interesting as those active years ago. (Personal opinion.) I am not saying that there aren't cool and skilled people who still play the game. I am just saying that comparatively speaking, the current situation isn't even close to what it once was... and I'm not even talking about general activity level on the server. It just simply is not the same experience.
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So let me get this straight....  In skill wise, everyone has to rope super duper fast like saltyk9, Anubis, Mablak, Fudo, Noentity,, and so on to make them interesting? A human being at decent skill level can be much as interesting in WA as any  other high skilled human. There aren't much ropers around with high speed as it once were, but that doesn't make people boring. Same goes for land schemes.

Instead of emphasizing how much you miss the past, wish things were like the past, try instead to be some sort of a mentor to the current generation wormers. Show interest, show moves in various of schemes that they don't know about. Impress them with your knowledge and moves. Yes it can be tiring, boring, and so on. Some might not even care and just quit, I have dealt with that a lot and it is frustrating.

Many on Worms don't even know about this update, and once it will be released, people will be shocked, that a 20 year old game got a new fresh update! I am sure it will help WA in some capacity to gain interest of others. WA still sells well on Steam too, so it's not like it is dying. So don't give up hope! Get out off your bubble and seize the opportunity :)

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No, that is not what I said or even inferred. Skill speaks for itself. As far as 'interesting' players goes, what I meant by that is personality. Having a cool / funny personality is far more important in other players (IMO) than being skilled is, because if someone can make me laugh or chat on thought-provoking topics, that'll keep me entertained. One of my favorite W:A players of all time wasn't a pro-level player at all, but he was absolutely hilarious and in every game I played with him I was laughing so hard that I didn't give a crap about winning or losing... that is a sure sign that one is having fun.

I have 'mentored' countless players over the years. I've paid my dues many times over as far as that goes. Hell, I even did some of that last night. However, would I rather play some matches with unknown newbies or see AG once again full of familiar names? No contest. I don't see my stance on this as being negative per se; it's more a matter of me simply being honest. No matter how much I love W:A gameplay, without the right people around it just isn't nearly as fun as it could be.

As I have said, I am glad that we are getting an update and I respect the work put into making it happen. I just think that the update isn't going to address what *I* consider to be the real problem(s) of the current state of W:A. Bug fixes and feature implementation is cool and all but until the old schoolers start becoming active again en masse the game will remain a pale shadow of its former self. I truly hope that this update brings some people out of retirement but I doubt that will be the case.

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