Wormnet moderation

[Kradie]

MonkeyIsland for the president! Well said!

I would endorse that. TUS has become a much more friendlier place in recent times. Before when the moderation were looser, people would often get away by being cruel to one another, and more topics were allowed to talk about as well. Sad thing is.. As much as I love that all topics should be allowed, a civilized discussion is hard to maintain, personal attacks and Insults are bond to happen. You would expect grownups would behave, but they don't always. I just remember that Worms WMD thread, where many people ripped on that guy Jono? I think that was the name of him. He was friendly.

If moderation would take place on WormNET, how would it be? Would it only be in the main channels? Or would it extend to host rooms and in-games?

[FoxHound]

What he said there about me is not true. It is taken out of context and is one sided, complete disinformation. But when I see people spread lies to feel validated then I must speak out.

I don't have clues or printscreens about what I said. But I remember very well. It's from the times your server was called Zarmageddon, not Global Wormin'. It's from the times that you were posting almost daily videos like "Awaken with JP" and "Prager U". By the way, the video about the coup encouragement might be from Prager U, it might still exist, maybe I can find it, but I doubt, because there were so many videos of these "sources" of stupidity and disinformation (and it was probably erased after some time and the coup attempt itself)... And it's now a known and studied fact that the fake news mainly purpose is to encourage people to go to the streets and engage on the cause, rather than form opinions and convince people. So, that video was probably made exactly to encourage the coup attempt that was unsure that would indeed happen at the time. But it was probably around November or December 2022. During the elections of 2022 or right after it. Many Brazilians were grouped around barracks and camping in the country's capital, Brasília, where the congress and all the 3 powers of the republic are located. You don't remember this, because it was only one of the hundreds of fake news and stupid videos you posted on your "Negativity" channel or whatever were the ones that you were using. I remember very well, because I know the history of my country because I read many books written by historians and journalists and I was reading the news that you called "mainstream media" at the time. I'm surely not the one spreading lies and being against vaccines like you were famous about including here on TUS. Maybe I will find the old topics about antivax stuff you supported during one of the most severe pandemics of the humanity. If I were I liar like you say, I would be banned from the wiki that I edit for years of this game. And I was indeed questioned many times about the stuff I wrote there, I proved them all, though. Different than you that is a disgusting person.

Some people read his first post here in this topic and they were shocked. This is a guy who wants to strangle freedom. Who wants to hang with such a person?No wonder I have the power to Ignore.

When I said about hate, I was talking about people that practice hate to a group of people, often called minorities. I just said what I think about you, because here on Tus we have Free Speech with some necessary moderation it requires, though. I didn't attack any minority. I attacked you, as a criticism of your beliefs and behavior that I read for many years in this community. And I don't hate you, I just don't like what you think and what you say here. And yeah, I support freedom and democracy, despite knowing that the democracy is limited and ruled by capitalism and companies.

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[Kradie]

I like the idea. Additionally perhaps it's worth to add a system that checks player's age in their steam account to grant them access to the adult channel if they're 18+ (not sure if it's possible to implement).

Btw minimal moderation/filtering must be even in the adult channel anyway. There are lots of things which can't be tolerated: sharing someone's personal data, spreading malicious links, spamming huge amount of messages and many other ones which I even don't wanna mention.

However I have also an alternative simplier solution. Since the in-game chat (not the WormNET's or the lobby's one) has no moderation/filters and also no clickable links support, probably it makes sense just to turn the clickable links support off for the adult channel, at least for a beginning. Most likely the moderation/filters shall be added to the in-game chat as well sooner or later.

I am no programmer but I have this feeling that it won't be easy nor possible to Implement a system where WA checks user profile on steam, let alone GOG, and CD version.

I moderate my own Worms Server, and I try my best to keep it clean from spam, malicious links, and bad people. However, I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as longest it is kept orderly and civilized. If similar mentality and order e.g MonkeyIsland, could come to adult channel, then that would be great. But then again people who logs onto WormNET normally has 1 goal, to play game, and not to look for discussions on whatever. But people do chat and talk to each other anyway, at least there would be an option.

You already have the option to Ignore people in game (ctrl+F1 2 3 4+). Though this method is not visible and obvious.

[TheKomodo]

I moderate my own Worms Server, and I try my best to keep it clean from spam, malicious links, and bad people. However, I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as longest it is kept orderly and civilized.

This is what I mean though... You keep going on about "Freedom of speech" whenever we discuss WormNET moderation, yet you constantly also admit you limit freedom of speech in your own channels.

"I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as long as it is kept orderly and civilized" - So in otherwords, exactly everything I and others here have been saying the entire time. When it comes to FoS, you contradict yourself with your own actions quite often. Though, don't take that as negative insult because in this case it is not, it's a good thing that your actions resemble the truth, even if your words don't sometimes.

Yes, it would be nice if EVERYONE could live without rules, and laws etc... That just isn't the world we live in yet, we are not evolved enough as a species collectively.

Your problem is the same problem I have sometimes... The ideal world we wished we lived in, and the world we actually live in, are 2 different things and we cannot expect everyone to be on that level of a dream world yet, we're just not evolved enough yet.

[Kradie]

This is what I mean though... You keep going on about "Freedom of speech" whenever we discuss WormNET moderation, yet you constantly also admit you limit freedom of speech in your own channels.

"I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as long as it is kept orderly and civilized" - So in otherwords, exactly everything I and others here have been saying the entire time. When it comes to FoS, you contradict yourself with your own actions quite often. Though, don't take that as negative insult because in this case it is not, it's a good thing that your actions resemble the truth, even if your words don't sometimes.

Yes, it would be nice if EVERYONE could live without rules, and laws etc... That just isn't the world we live in yet, we are not evolved enough as a species collectively.

Your problem is the same problem I have sometimes... The ideal world we wished we lived in, and the world we actually live in, are 2 different things and we cannot expect everyone to be on that level of a dream world yet, we're just not evolved enough yet.

Confinement of Reason can be easily defined by anyone who has a particular mindset that correlates to their Ideology and beliefs. I would like think that most people have common sense and are capable of rational thinking. Example: On my server I do allow for people discuss politics, taboo, and edgy topics if only it is kept orderly and civilized. I do not allow for people to target others with ill-intent practices like insulting and labelling others This would only help to validate their vanity and encourage cult like behavior, and it would create a negative environment. Ultimately, it is behavior that matters. Bad behavior creates bad environment and vice versa.

Since both Wormnet and my server are about Worms, would people like to enter a place where they see a e.g a political discussion? Probably not, but they have the freedom to Ignore it and focus at the task at hand to play the game. People should not be timed out, and banned because they talk about a topic that they are passionate about ONLY if it is uncivilized and cruel.

Unfortunately not a lot of people have the ability to accept that people have a different viewpoint than their own. People are more focused about being right, and convincing others so much that their hubris overshadow all reason. So no matter what topics in general, the risk factor of falling out with someone with opposing view can be great if both aren't capable of civilized behavior.

Luckily on discord, you can have channels for off topic and other channels for this and that. Nobody is forced to go to these channels. That is why I think adult channel would be Ideal on wormnet.

[Sensei]

That is why I think adult channel would be Ideal on wormnet.

Ideal for whom and what exactly? Are you preparing us for more weird stuff coming from you, like dozens of those naked anime girls maps you're making, updating and hosting in random games?

As a newcomer, I'd be more freaked out joining a game with you in that setup, than seeing some random idiots cursing  on WormNET.

[Kradie]

Ideal for whom and what exactly? Are you preparing us for more weird stuff coming from you, like dozens of those naked anime girls maps you're making, updating and hosting in random games?

As a newcomer, I'd be more freaked out joining a game with you in that setup, than seeing some random idiots cursing  on WormNET.

I am not preparing anyone for anything I'm merely proposing Ideas. Ideas that could prevent choking freedom completely. But it seems to me that you may have Indirectly or unknowingly proposed an Idea: A moderated AG should prohibit explicit content, especially for games. Such content should only be tolerated in an adult channel. Perhaps ''adult'' channel is the wrong word for it? ''Unmoderated Channel'' could sound more appropriate? Either way, if you look to TUS, there is already such area where such pornographic content are accepted.

When you click ''Host'' there should be an option ''Adult content'', this could signalize for the users that that game uses explicit content.

[TheKomodo]

Or you could just keep it in your pants while playing video games...

[Triad]

Or you could just keep it in your pants while playing video games...

But I thought the point of Big RR was shooting ropes with your worm?!?!?!?

[Sensei]

Or you could just keep it in your pants while playing video games...

Rare sincere laugh you got from me there, mister Dave. That was a good post.

[Kradie]

Or you could just keep it in your pants while playing video games...

I don't understand? Not the pornographic part, but in general?  I am kind of worried with this thinking of yours now.. I mean, it seems to me that every time I propose something that doesn't take people's freedom away, you Immediately want to shut that down. It is like you don't want people to have a choice. If people want to play on adult maps then that's their right. You do not have the right to come here and tell them they can't. That's why I offered options.

Yes, I know Worms Armageddon is cute Innocent game that can attract younger audience, but that's why I offered options. And btw, if we are really going down this path to ban every explicit maps now which is INSANE I tell ya, then you better have all these pornographic content on TUS, and WMDB deleted too.

Keep it in your pants while playing video games... While you are at it, commit to celibacy.

[TheKomodo]

Ok, for starters, it was a joke Kradie... Nobody is talking about banning NSFW map content even if some people think it's creepy incel type stuff.

Sam Brown, Sam Brown...

[Kradie]

Ok, for starters, it was a joke Kradie... Nobody is talking about banning NSFW map content even if some people think it's creepy incel type stuff.

Sam Brown, Sam Brown...

I don't know what is a joke for you anymore. Woke news and activists agendas and messages are so damn stark, dire, and depressing, it makes me doubt that there is any hope for humanity because there is little courage and push back against this madness. That's why I am fighting for freedom!

FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!!

New clan name FFF-Kradie'zar 

[TheKomodo]

Well, it's a serious joke, it's something that's said as a joke because it's something that shouldn't need to be said to lighten the mood, but it's also deadly serious because most people, especially youngsters and your average woman shouldn't have to see creepy maps like that in the first place.

It's like the map development equivalent of stalking a girl down a dark alley foaming at the mouth.

So... Anubis was a well known clan hopper... So Kradie, you're a clan chopper?  On account of making a new clan every year and then giving it the chop lol.

(Don't look too much into this, just wanted to rhyme clan hopper with something)



When I think of people fighting for freedom, I'm thinking men and women actually risking their lives for their country and local communities, not somebody who I assume is living in a safe comfortable place with no problems like us.

I like to defend the truth, and although I myself walk the path of promoting the freedom to think and train yourself to your human potential, I wouldn't say I'm a fighter of freedom. I'm living freedom thanks to my family, my country and my government. Sure, none of those 3 things are perfect, but they are pretty good and they could be MUCH worse!