I too dislike these kind of BnG maps.

Also the map choices page you linked Ramone is all of the played games, not necessarily means the host. Weren't komo's maps those volcano centered maps? I may be wrong though.

U ain't wrong MI, funny thing is that even U remember Komo's volcanoes: https://www.tus-wa.com/profile/Komito/maps-choices/?start=400
Must be that I'm disillusional, Komo's maps were not even similar to the example I've posted, they had a volcano in the middle.. Totally different thing.
Sry for the whole confusion.

Quote from: Ramone on January 04, 2013, 03:02 PM
Oh sry, I must have been blind.. or stupid. Or both.

Oooo you got one right !

You were always one of the worst BnG players in b2b anyway, so it comes to no surprise you can't tell the difference between my maps and the map with the big red cross through it.

You were never a serious player.

Right! Your maps always had a big white cross through it, how could I mix it with the big red cross one? Must be blind. Damn.

Agree, but can you give an example of a good map Ramone?

Visit his maps profile. Tons of bnG maps there

Quote from: Ramone on January 05, 2013, 12:41 PM
Right! Your maps always had a big white cross through it, how could I mix it with the big red cross one? Must be blind. Damn.

You don't understand the differences do you?

I only really used maps like this in serious competitive games and ALL my maps were carefully created to be equally challenging/fair on both sides, that map you showed is 100% horizontal and NONE of my maps are 100% horizontal, my maps had the bit in the middle incase some people tried to shoot too low.

I never started using these maps anyway, it wasn't me who started the trend, it is the most popular map style for competitive League BnG games, and that has nothing to do with me.

And since I never saw you ever take 1v1 BnG seriously, it doesn't surprise me you would act like a dumbass as usual, so I forgive you.

Shoutout to van, could use your signature over here.

Quote from: darKz on January 05, 2013, 03:46 PM
Shoutout to van, could use your signature over here.

Why is the "Anti-spam-brigade" spamming and trolling?

Why don't you set a better example ya pleb?

I'm allowed to act like a donut, you aint

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 05, 2013, 12:57 PM
Visit his maps profile. Tons of bnG maps there

hmm, that's just the female version of komo's volcano maps 

*does not love bng*

Lol how true, our maps could make out Ramone

Quote from: HHC on January 05, 2013, 12:48 PM
Agree, but can you give an example of a good map Ramone?

It's not about if a single map is good or not, it's that this kind of maps became sort of "standard" by time, and that's wrong. They are all the same with a tiny bit of difference.

Btw HHC, we've already talked about this in the other thread, I'll just link U there so I don't have to explain again why I think this kind of BnG maps sux: https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/schemes/possibly-bng-change-17538/msg143060/#msg143060

That thread was the last attempt to change smth about it, but as many other threads it ended up abandoned with a feeling of nausea to many of us because Komo got involved (again) and U know how it goes.. [/van signature]
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Quote from: Komito on January 05, 2013, 03:56 PM

Quote from: darKz on January 05, 2013, 03:46 PM
Shoutout to van, could use your signature over here.

Why is the "Anti-spam-brigade" spamming and trolling?

Why don't you set a better example ya pleb?

I'm allowed to act like a donut, you aint

I could've said "Komo why do you start ruining yet another thread?" as well, I just chose the other way of saying it. And I can still do or say whatever I want.

Quote from: Ramone on January 05, 2013, 10:30 PM
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Actually I do appreciate the effort. I too dislike those BnG maps, most of possible shots there are nades and they encourage notching.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 06, 2013, 06:15 AM

Quote from: Ramone on January 05, 2013, 10:30 PM
Dunno why did I even bothered to say my thoughts about it again here, guess I was enough drunk to do it. ;x

Actually I do appreciate the effort. I too dislike those BnG maps, most of possible shots there are nades and they encourage notching.

These maps don't encourage notching, people making notching guides public is what encourages notching, most BnG players probably dislike the way you actually play BnG, throwing 4s nades instead of 3, repeating constantly etc... You don't see anyone making threads about it, with a big red cross through a map shaped like MonkeyIsland... Not that I mind, I actually respect the fact you are open and honest about playing the way you do before the start of a game, I actually really enjoyed playing against you, it's a different kind of challenge...

Anyone who really understands how to notch can notch on ANY kind of map, I actually find Ramones maps are easier to notch on because there are less hides, these maps are actually harder to notch on because they have harder hides, so if you have a good accurate shot and a variety of shots in mind you should be fine...

The only thing I can say you might agree on, these maps get a bit boring... Ramones maps are the most fun maps i've ever played on the guys a genius when it comes to making BnG maps for funners...

With or without notching, in League matches I just prefer maps with more hides and harder places to hit, it's more challenging and enjoyable for me and that's why I use the maps I use, this "standard" was passed down from the previous BnG players, I was taught "T17 map, delete top fill bottom, -forest" and gradually over time I made small changes to make for more hides to fit on the map.

I know this exact map Ramone uploaded is taking the piss a bit, but I know what he's getting at, and who cares, most people prefer these kind of maps for competitive BnG apparently so what's the big deal, no one forces anyone to play?