I agree. Would be nice a discord channel for TUS league, in order to arrange games etc.

Quote from: Danelius on May 31, 2021, 11:59 PM
i need a plop was in reference to the toilet. One of those bathroom breaks that needed urgency.

ROFL

I come to talk about the intermediate scheme. I would like to propose the possibility, if both players agree, to change the options of SD and round time (minimum of 10 minutes). Why?

1) it will please players who want to play a faster match of intermediate. The absence of 1HP SD leaves players less concerned about waiting for the 1HP SD as a chance of victory, which favors faster matches.

2) it will please players who think the 1HP SD is unfair. It is an old discussion, but always had a part of players who think it's unfair.

Despite the fact that changing the SD option is something that alters the tactical aspects of the scheme intermediate, I don't think it changes the essence of the scheme. For me it's an acceptable variation and which I know players who would like.

I would also like to ratify the possibility that the intermediate scheme can also be played in the original version of the game with crates, dud mines and power of cluster and mortar set to 3.

Komito, I downloaded this map but I can't open inside game.

I would like the option to fast foward turn time while, for example, "skip go" is selected. I like to play intermediate, where sometimes it's necessary wait SD and it's incredible boring wait 45 secs every turn.

I like the idea of unifying all the leagues into one global league.

Quote from: TheMadCharles on November 23, 2020, 05:23 AM
i've already suggested this multiple times lol

When was it? Nobody put it into practice?

When I play with new players, whenever I remember, I send the link to a guide where I gathered useful information for new players. I mention in it other people's guides too (TOMI guide etc.). But it would be nice if we had a BOT to do this frequently at AG, just like they do with leagues. What do you think about that?

I would like to talk about something that some intermediate players like me do not like very much.
As some of you may know, sometimes there is no other way to win a game without darkside strategy. However, this often makes the game extremely boring.
Since it is necessary to waste more time until SD, it is common to see the player wait 40 seconds to do something completely predictable (using girder, blowtorch, SG on terrain etc.).

I've seen comments from some other players who also don't like this aspect of the scheme. Recently, I saw in the CWT website chat, someone mentioning a suggestion from a player (I think it was from Kayz), in which would be possible to accelerate the turn time.
The update 3.8 already has the option to accelerate the time inside game, but you need set that before the game. So my suggestion would be that the developers (if they find the idea interesting) implement something to trigger that option to fast forward during some turns.
This could be done in several ways, for example, when the player selected "skip go" (F12) for more than two seconds, this would fast forward the turn. The idea would be some kind of action to trigger this functionality inside the game.
It also could make the game less boring, for example, for those who watch a stream between pro players in this scheme, when this darkside strategy often happens.
Not only for the intermediate scheme, but also other schemes when it is strategically necessary to wait for SD, this possibility (fast forward turn), would make the game less boring.

Share your opinion!

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Quote from: Rafka on November 16, 2020, 04:12 PM
Check the ONL, I'm playing to have about the same amount of games with every player, especially I have more with pros, cause with noobs I have most often just 1 game, with pros I have more games. The only thing is that noobs are more in league.
Sec. think - I'm not avoiding Albus or any1 else. He was the one who didn't want play rev in ONL.

Indeed. I don't think Rafka is an avoider. He just has a weird policy of playing few times with each person per season and other things that I don't like too. But he plays with everybody.
PS: unfortunately (I wouldn't like it that way), Rafka is the only pro player that I avoid playing at the moment. I will only play tournaments and qualifiers with him. He knows the reasons.

Quote from: TheWalrus on November 14, 2020, 11:31 PM
It's a shame that the two most active players that both specialize in the same scheme can play 100 games each but only 2 against each other.  It's obvious rafka doesn't want to risk losing to preserve his sterling record against noobs.
It's a sad day when one of the very best inter players, maybe the best active player, won't play other good players because avoid. 

Just for the record, in my opinion (although others think Rafka is an avoider), I don't think he is an avoider, because he, even though he only wanna play 1 Bo3 with someone for 2 months, he plays after all. He would be an avoider if he didn't want to play any, and only play when he was forced to play (for example, CWT, PO etc., because then there would be no way to avoid it).

The problem, which makes me not play with him, is his policy of few games with people. For example, he is often at the AG looking for people to play and me too. But if he has played with me recently, and beat me, he will always give preference to playing with unknown people (possibly noobs) and refuses to play with me. I do not agree with his attitude, of being such an inaccessible person, and I already said that I will only accept playing with him when he changes that, and become a more accessible person, because I am!
I consider myself just a good player. I am not an excellent player and I am not a PRO (PRO for me were Dario, Mablak and a few others), who dedicated themselves a lot to the game, for several years. I'm just an amateur. If Rafka played more against me, he would certainly win the majority, as he has more experience than me, but I don't mind losing. Below you can see the recent ONL history between me and Korydex. I lost most, but I don't mind losing. I will keep calling him to play. I like when someone is better than me, because I see it as a challenge! I like to play with PROs because I learn and also become a better player.


Rafka has another peculiarity that I don't agree. When he loses someone, I notice that he quickly calls the person to play again in order to try to win. But when he wins, he is in no hurry at all (it may take more than a month for another game to happen, even if you see him on AG looking for games). I think this is unfair. I do not like it.

I attached a print of when we played TUS. I beat him first. It didn't take long and in the next day he called me to play again. As I am a very accessible player and I almost never refuse anyone who invites me to play, I accepted! But if it had been the opposite, i.e., if I had lost first and asked him to play the other day, from my experience I say that he would not accept. This happened to me at ONL. I lost the first game to him. He just came to be available to play with me what he calls the opponent's right to play the revenge match months later (despite countless times he was looking for someone to play at the same time as me). But by that time I had already approached him in the ranking and I didn't want to play anymore. So I told him that the day he changes his posture, I'll call him to play dozens of times.


There is another example of his attitude, which happened between him and ultiarsty. He lost the first game against ultiarsty, and the very next day he called ultiarsty to play again and won. As the win rate was still not so good (3-2 for ultiarsty), few days later he played another one and got 5-2. After that, ultiarsty asked him to play and he was in no hurry, which caused some discussion between the 2 at the time.


I believe that, instead of give priority to calling so many noobs, he should give priority to play with old players, as they are more important to keep the league alive, since new players, mostly, as you said and unfortunately, never return here. But my suggestion to avoid that is to make things easier for new players. I think the new players does not have an easy place to access all information they need about the game. So I recently gave the idea in the discord (attached below) to create a small separate window in the AG (with a scroll bar so as not to take too much space in the interface), with useful information, v.g., league sites, guides and tutorials for play better, discord servers etc.

I would like to request the exclusion of all 14 games between Rafka and the new player named ZapalioSibicom, played hours before the season was over (https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-226449/).

Some said that what Rafka did, despite the lack of sportsmanship, did not break any of the TUS league rules. In other words, he abused the system, but did not break any rules. But I want to bring here another interpretation. I think that all these 14 games were not impartial, so they must be deleted due to the lack of impartiality.

I came to this conclusion through the interpretation of the chat during the rounds. I think Rafka's attitude in saying certain things was improper.

Some chat of the games:

1 round:
[NNN`Rafka] its the end of season so I need like about 12 games to win this season (without a los), wanna ride this highway with me? =)
[ZapalioSibicom] ok
[ZapalioSibicom] so i need to resign?
[NNN`Rafka] no
2 round:
[NNN`Rafka] playing with me U have a chance to progresss
4 round:
[NNN`Rafka] I told U, U gonna be more skilled after so many games with me =)

Suppose you were going to bet money on one of these two players. If you saw two players talking to each other like that, who would you bet on? Do you think someone who is considering surrendering is an impartial opponent?

In my opinion Rafka should never have said that he needed "X" victories to be the league winner because that may have raised the interest in this player in wanting to help Rafka, especially considering that Rafka was being nice to him, showing interest in his progress. It wouldn't have been a problem if he had said that, for example, for someone else also competing for better positions in the league. The problem is that he said that to a new player, registered on that same day by invitation from Rafka, and who does not aim at anything in the league (very possibly we will never see him again), so it would have no difference for him to win or lose. Wouldn't it be absurd to think that he wanted to help Rafka, correct? We can't be 100% sure about that. But the impartiality of something ends when there is reasonable doubt, and for me there is a doubt there.

Round 14:
[NNN`Rafka] what, U tele
[NNN`Rafka] try things
[NNN`Rafka] dont give up
[ZapalioSibicom] ah i am all nervous and sleepy
[ZapalioSibicom] need medicine

This conversation was after the player ZapalioSibicom had teleported to water on purpose. It is clear that the player was already tired for several previous matches, so why did he keep playing, if not perhaps out of an interest in helping Rafka? There is another factor that makes it even more difficult to think that the player was enjoying playing 14 rounds in a roll. The player, apparently, was not even a fan of intermediate, but shopper.

Round1:
[NNN`Rafka] so U played from 11 years now on till today::=
[ZapalioSibicom] yes sort of
[NNN`Rafka] hmm strange we didnt play before, I guess
[ZapalioSibicom] yes i changed nicknames a lot and only shopper

So, not taking into account the fact that Rafka's conduct was unsportsmanlike (I think it was), I believe that those games were not impartial, and for that I believe they need to be deleted.

Last but not least, I have nothing against Rafka. He is one of the best intermediate players I know. But I think he was so desperate to get that first place that he was a little blind to his own attitudes.

PS: if anyone is wondering why me and Rafka have so few games in the TUS league, I explained here https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-226449/.

Quote from: TheWalrus on November 13, 2020, 06:18 PM
Then again the two noob bashing extraordinaries are singlehandedly driving league activity with huge amounts of games played against people we've never heard of before or will see again.

My intention was to bring in new players to help with the league activity! I am always telling about TUS and ONL sites to new players and inviting them to join these leagues. What can I do besides that? Force them to play again? I do my part! But if I'm going to be called "noob bashing" for bringing new players into the league, I won't be doing that anymore. That's fine for me.
I always try to help new players to play better in order to make them enjoy the game more. Here are topics I created to help new players:
http://www.normalnonoobs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1696&view=unread#unread
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/new-player-guide-for-intermediate-scheme-32974/msg277201/#msg277201
I recently proposed on the WA server at discord, the idea of creating a separate window inside AG mentioning the league sites (TUS and ONL) and other useful stuff for new players (see the attachment). It is clear that my behavior is far from someone who just wants to play against a noob just to earn some league points and never see that player again.

I will exemplify here my history with some good players:

Silaneo - http://www.normalnonoobs.com/AvsBstatistics/Albus/Silaneo
Thouson - http://www.normalnonoobs.com/AvsBstatistics/Albus/Thouson
Ultiarsty - http://www.normalnonoobs.com/AvsBstatistics/Albus/ultiartsy
Korydex - http://www.normalnonoobs.com/AvsBstatistics/Albus/Korydex
Perdunok - http://www.normalnonoobs.com/AvsBstatistics/Albus/Perdunok

As you see, I play a lot of games against good players!

Now, if you look at Rafka's profile (http://www.normalnonoobs.com/viewuserrank/Rafka), you'll see that he plays with a lot of people, but few games in each season. If he wanted to play with me dozens of times (like he did with this new guy just to get first place), I would be the first to accept.

Very unfair call me "noob bashing". Everyone who knows me knows that I'm not like that!