Group 4 looks really tough D:

hey, my prefered times are the same, 9pm to 2am daily, wanna make it happen saturday? you pick the time

It was generated by AI hahaha, the app is "ChatSonic" by Write Sonic, embedded in Opera GX. Highleted the cup description and asked AI to do it Sorry to disappoint 

Gotta agree with Komo lol
It's nice shot but the reaction here is overrated

In search of good Elite games,
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Scheme and maps, a battleground agreed,
Four worms, any super weap, the rules we'll heed.

Group stage, 20 days to compete,
KO stage, 12 days, a challenge to meet,
And in the finals, just 10 days remain,
To crown a champion, victory to obtain.

But what if the opponent cannot be found?
Fear not, effort and perseverance abound,
For the one who seeks, and shows true desire,
Shall pass the stage, their dreams set on fire.

In Cup #1207, Elite plz we play,
Unleash the passion, let the games sway,
Missing those good Elite battles no more,
Together we'll soar, our spirits will soar.

I've always thought Deadcode's scheme was projected exclusively for Island maps

Senator wrote this in my complaint topic:

QuoteTTL scheme is used for both island and cave. Likewise TUS Allround T17 scheme is used for both island and cave. Your both games were played with the Allround league scheme.

I've been using Deadcode's scheme for Island T17 in any league. I never knew I had to use Deadcode's scheme for cave and island if it's TTL.
And the classic T17 scheme for cave and island in allround.
I didn't know it was the standard rule for these leagues... Ofcourse I know when players agree on scheme it doesn't matter, but where is it written? Am I the only one doing it wrong? I will have a look at recent TTL/ Classic matches.
I can't be the only one, lol.

Let's use your own logic here. You initally offered and insisted for TTL as you mentioned multiple times including the logs, now why it's a huge problem to give up to change to TTL league? You are lacking sportsmanship here, you won both games, you are not being injured with this change, but we obviously are, because we were not able to pick what we like, if it was classic we would never pick T17/ Let you pick for us. As I said before, it's our least liked scheme. I never get involved in TUS league complaints unless I am in my right.
I already told you it was a language/communication mistake, if it's not enough and you wanna lack sportsmanship it's your choice. Period.
I'm out.

edit: I dont want games to be void, its not fair, they won and the games keep

Alright Keep the reports then, pointess tô discuss It at this point. Mods arent considering the language barrier.
But seriusly rb clan, do you think you are special at this point tô pick twice our least liked scheme in classic? lol. Its well known for all that im a t17 hater, i repeat, we accepted becausse ttl is meaningless.
Next time its our pick vs ur pick, no deals

@Senator
Cave t17 is the same isnt It? I thougjt It was.

Quote from: Senator on August 13, 2023, 11:16 PM

Quote from: Kaleu on August 13, 2023, 08:28 PM
Yeah but it is TTL, he told me in private and I said it's the same scheme. We see no point in playing T17 only as classic league, I think it was a language barrier.

Who told you in private? Camper? The agreement between the clans seems to be TUS Allround.

Yes Camper

Quote from: TheWalrus on August 14, 2023, 02:33 AM
No comment on this situation, but the better question is why is clanner TTL even a thing with no chance for playoffs?  It should be allround singles only, no?  Isn't even really enough activity to have playoffs most of the time in allround league.

I mean, we are already benefiting our opponent by let them choose the schemes, It is not our interest tô play our least liked scheme twice in classic, but its ok If its not compromising our allround point and % Win streak when reported in a meaningless league, we will do It for Fun. We probably going tô try tô reach PO. Sorry for mistakes, sent from my phone.

Yeah but it is TTL, he told me in private and I said it's the same scheme. We see no point in playing T17 only as classic league, I think it was a language barrier.

Wrong league, both games were TTL.

Sorry I don't understand this scheme. It's just regular rope tricks while firing weapons?

@Komo
loool I'll never forget that 

@Komo

I understand you and half agree with you. But before banning something it's better to find a way to identify who is using it because noones gonna have the balls to come public and admit it like some players did, otherwise the general rule should be that it should be allowed/released to everyone, as it is not possible to identify who uses it and who does not. (I'm talking about the banned rope script.)

And when I said I support modding, I was not talking strictly about software moding but fisical modding too, like when Mablak taught to use paper cones for the keyboard.. etc.

Your argument doesn't bring a solution, I think it is more comfortable to accept the fact of allowing the use of any hardware even if it does the same thing that can be achieved using software because it is something that you have no control over, while using software still brings this small feeling that people can be controlled and banned.

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Let's see for example how this is done for overclocking, it consists of using software programs to improve hardware performance to force hardware to go beyond limitations it's projected for.
It's publicly allowed and uses the same logic in my opinion. And there is no way to identify it right now.
It's just an example of modding your hardware with software and I personally put it in the same pot as the "banned" script, it's only improving your keyboard with software, and there's not a public statement saying it is "bypassing what the software of the game was designed to do", I don't think it is at all.

I see the banned rope script as a harmless modification as it's not automating anything for me, it's just removing a hardware limitation, it still requires me to know how to play the game and how to rope.
And as I said earlier there are probably good enough keyboards out there that money can buy that this limitation does not matter anymore.

I also want to point out that I was not talking about crate finder when I said "crate spy", there were some wk modules that enaabled permanent crate spy in the game to see what's in the crates beforing collecting and permanent laser sight too.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking

Yeah it's ok... I mean, there are obvious cheating like.. xspeed to get advantage and win challenges, homemade wk modules to spy crates, remove water etc.. These are obvious cheats, no discussion.
But those programs I mentioned in my post: "banned" ahk script, T macro.. are just harmless tools IMO, it won't make players better if they don't master rope schemes at all. It wouldn't make a random noob beat blitzed/ me in a TTRR match in a short period of practice, it still needs years of scheme mastering. Not even gonna mention the "T" macro, it just makes the worms think in middle turn, lol... And Tap counts doesn't matter that much, the best TTRR players of all time never had fast taps, it's proven already.
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This is a controversial topic. I don't see any problem when players want to get the most out of their hardware/gear.
There is no possibility for all players to play at the same level of conditions. I for example have a huge disadvantage in BIGRR, because my monitor doesn't support large resolutions, so I avoid it at all costs. Because of that, should I consider anyone who has a bigger monitor than mine with a ridiculous 240hz+ refresh rate a cheater? I have the right to do so, but does it makes sense? It's the same for people that write scripts, it's the workaround for low budget people.
Also there are multiple antighosting keyboards available to buy, it's a huge advantage in roping too.
IMO, you should be allowed to MOD as much as you want because there will be always someone with the right amount of money to get an advantage over you. I bet theres already some super cool keyboard that will do exact the same of what that script did with a built-in software...
Change my mind.