Agreed that people should give more weight to things that have been achieved this year, otherwise the list would pretty much look the same every year, provided good wormers haven't faded from memory.

Hey guys, I'm thinking a lot of us have no idea what to put for some categories like best bungee racer. People should toss out some names and amazing replays to show us who is worthy!

Yay, gj remembering cave notches bar.

It stinks!

So ps and mm, how about we do this sometime next weekend? Saturday and Sunday are both good for me, around 20-21 GMT.

Yeah bar, unfortunately the finals are the exception to that, because if we had more than 4 people it would take an extra round to judge. It's happened in all the previous tourneys so I thought people would be aware of that, but we should mention it, our bad.

But hardly any other tourney takes so much effort to host, making quality maps, practicing judging, and having to spend 4-5 hours hosting and judging without much breather time. We wrongly got your hopes up, but we shouldn't be labeled incompetent.

Dulek won with the very final turn of the tournament, was pretty gewd. We'll have it up on the worm olympics page tomorrow.

It's been a while since our last one, but the X-Worms Style Contest returns, on Dec. 28th, 20 GMT. Warmer has been in a state of decline for a long time now, but I know there must be some people out there who want in on this.

If anybody doesn't know what this is, check out the explanation: http://wormolympics.com/t645. This tourney is a remnant of WN's past, the early years when wormers were mostly judged on warming ability. Come enter and have a chance to join the prestigious list of style contest winners: me, Flex, Fudo, Ownless, Ryan, Anubis, Knight, Dulek, Dark, and Ropa!

Disapprobation is at least a mild deterrent StepS. However the goal here was to define what qualifies as cheating, for the honest players.

Considering the number of people who voted, I don't think this thread will reach that many people's eyes. And it's definitely important enough to talk about, since there was plenty of disagreement on the subject, and it impacts the game.

These topics are not okay at all, they teach noobs how to cheat too quickly. Cheating should take at least a couple years to master, we can all agree on that.

I find it really hilarious that TUS has a rule about making 'confusing' worm names. First of all, intermediate is the only scheme where this matters in the least, it's easy to remember the order of a mere 4 worms in elite or t17. If the names are blank or something, then both sides have the same advantage/disadvantage in not knowing; there's absolutely no need for such a rule.

The other issue of writing down worm names/weapons used should fall under external aids, but that issue really only has any use in NNNL. If you want to prove your lameness though, be like FaD and put everyone on ignore while writing down all the info you need in the chatbox

Quote from: Ramone on December 14, 2011, 09:27 PM
What about terrain patterns or map objects as a visual aid? I.e. U know that U need to move your aim just a tiny bit to the i.e. strawberry object on a fruit map to hit the perfect hit.. Are U kindly gonna ask ppl not to do that too? ;x It's tricky..
Anyway, I understand what U wanna Mab, I've had similar situation few years ago when I wanted to add "no-notching" rule in bng here... I knew that it was complicated and that someone can hardly prove if someone was notching or not, and that it would bring too much bitching if anyone wanted to judge that even, but I still just wanted that rule to be stated. Just as a criteria.. as a standard..

It's the same with this visual aid thing, U can add the rule, but that's all U can do, ppl who use papers, monitor buttons, CD cases, self-made aids or w/e will still use it.. Because they can. Because no one sees them..

And btw, votes on poll are on your side, so just add the rule and stop giving away new ideas to youngsters how to cheat! ;x

No, not everyone would continue to use that stuff. But yeah, things like notching and measuring via objects in the game, those aren't even preventable in a live setting, they're perfectly okay. The only 'aid' I would say is okay is using your hands to judge distances/remember angles.

Quote from: Statik on December 13, 2011, 11:15 PM
What about "stealing" angles? I mean when I watch my oppenent's angle/power I can copycat it and modify if necessary. I think a player should look at his screen only when it is his turn, otherwise he can use another players' angles as "visual aids". Also first 5 seconds of a turn a player must randomly push up/down arrows with closed eyes. That's will be fair enough.

That isn't all that easy to do man, but if it helps you a lot, might as well keep doing it. With notching though, there's not much point in trying to copy an angle, it's faster to just know it.

Quote from: DeathInFire on December 13, 2011, 05:03 PM
So what's the difference in measuring shots with letters / signs of your monitor instead of ones you made yourself? The result is the same, a visual aid. Your logic fails to me.

Because it's a natural limit where everyone is basically on equal ground, since there are no particularly special monitors out there. And because buttons/logos aren't markings that are tailor-made for WA, so the advantage you get is only so high.

But yeah, we could ask that people who use those existing markings cover them up or simply avoid using them. I mean, that would make more sense than essentially requiring that everyone have a marking system pasted onto the bottom of their monitor. Yeah why not, let's say buttons and logos are visual aids too.