At the point of dropping VoK was actually closer to winning the game because he had scales+missile while dibz had no SD weaps. You need to play rm.

He was just questioning the evidence of avoiding other than admitting it. A free win was given and they played that game later (also more games after that). vesu came up with totally different cases without understanding the avoiding criteria. Time to close this thread

Quote from: Lukz on June 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
I asked u for 2 more, not same that try find any tus

U didnt want to play then ren start to ask for tus on Ag and we decide finish our tus, we play the 1st pick 1 or 2 days ago, pending games has priority

Really i didnt want make more drama for this but sound like that u take decitions whitout to have a complete perpective

Ok, u only wanted 2 more with me OR finish tus with reN but not a new tus with someone else. Sbaffo started asking 10 mins earlier than reN.

What about the earlier case then? You accepted tus against dibz after ignoring Sbaffo and u admitted that u had seen Sbaffo asking tus before dibz asked. And you didn't change your mind about playing tus in a few mins but u "didn't like to play vs Sbaffo". Avoiding happened and that's it.

Quote from: vesuvio on June 14, 2016, 12:25 AM
02:22: vesuvio1> tus ? 
02:22: lalo> I avoid you 
02:23: lalo> please report free win 


lalo sais too

Combine that with lalo looking for tus and accepting tus against other player and u might have a case.

Quote from: Lukz on June 14, 2016, 12:27 AM

Quote from: Senator on June 13, 2016, 06:51 PM
That was explained in the Lukz thread. If someone looks for tus but refuses to play against u, that's avoiding.

Quote from: Senator on June 04, 2016, 10:05 AM
looking for tus = 1) "tus anyone" on the channel 2) ask tus via PM  3) accept tus against a player right after ignoring other player

Lukz did both 2) and 3) while he refused to play against Sbaffo.

Hey, i didnt the 2 xD i just was answer for tus

The same day u asked me tus in PM, then Sbaffo asked u tus and then u accepted tus against reN

Heard he has been playing with vertical sync on. No wonder if he hasn't reached his prime (whatever that was).

@topic
I doubt u'll find a clan that wants to train hard It's just tus and clanners as u know.

The Lukz case was decided mainly based on the fact that he admitted avoiding but he also met the avoiding criteria.

Yeah what u said is possible, that's why I wrote in the Lukz thread "at least if it happens several times". You can't be in the kitchen each time a particular player asks tus. Again, if an accident happens here, you can play the game. A free win is not a final result.

Afaik u didn't post a complaint regarding pizza to get a permission to report a free win. You can look for tus and then cancel it, though.

Quote from: vesuvio on June 13, 2016, 05:55 PM
but ur explanation does not include avoiding  but for this you decided buffo gets free wins agaist lukz

That was explained in the Lukz thread. If someone looks for tus but refuses to play against u, that's avoiding.

Quote from: Senator on June 04, 2016, 10:05 AM
looking for tus = 1) "tus anyone" on the channel 2) ask tus via PM  3) accept tus against a player right after ignoring other player

Lukz did both 2) and 3) while he refused to play against Sbaffo.

Your complaint about lalo was totally different situation. lalo was looking for tus wxw/bng/roper. Looking for a specific scheme is allowed, that's not avoiding.

Quote from: vesuvio on June 13, 2016, 01:45 AM
lukz reports of buffo could have NEVER been made if lukz is in position to say no ty not that scheme nah not that

If Lukz had said "I can play only if hyst/elite" to Sbaffo and then accepted all schemes against dibz, that would still have been avoiding imo. You can ask for specific schemes but not change them based on the opponent.

QuoteQuitting a game before it ends means you forfeit the game.

QuoteOnly acceptable way of quitting is if the quitting is reasonable and the quitting player agrees with his/her opponent on playing the game another time.

Macabet you can't just leave the game if your opponent doesn't agree. You plopped your first worm and after that vesu made a time. It's possible that u just wanted to go to warm up before finishing the game.

Would it make sense to have like 15 games per month? That way u couldn't bash someone 30 times in the first days.. the opponent would probably lose points while u would gain points before u could play him more.

I see that 15 games is not enough for those who want to play tus every day. You just run out of opponents. Raising the limit would keep active players around and not get bored of sitting in AG without opponents. Playing every day shouldn't be a requirement to qualify for PO, though..

so lalo asked u tus wxw/bng/roper. How is that avoiding? It's allowed to ask only a specific scheme. He wasn't even looking for 2 picks tus and didn't play tus with someone else.

There's no connection to Lukz/Sbaffo case

Quote from: vesuvio on June 12, 2016, 02:10 AM
got same issue with players 3times this evening. 2 i reported now. and this case should be too

You can't report without mods' approval.

Quote from: Aerox on June 11, 2016, 11:06 PM
senator can you hear me?

England-Russia could have been 2-0 after first half.. 0-0 prediction was b*llshit

Thrilling last shot at 14:01. daiNa would have plopped (after my turn) and lost the series if she hadn't made that shot

Quote from: Kaleu on June 09, 2016, 06:07 AM
Yes

Thanks Kaleu! Glad to see my 1 minute reconstruction didn't give horribly wrong results

Quote from: Kaleu on June 08, 2016, 09:19 PM
I can Tool Assist it in multiple different pixels I think, mind if I do?

Ty No need to spend too much time on this tho.