Ok. Mind show it works with better reconstruction?

Sorry vesu I tried that torch and it didn't work (the worm dropped next to *Jule)

You need to replay it.

Quote from: Anubis on June 08, 2016, 02:13 AM
Has anyone any replays from DeathInFire? Around 2008/9, please PM if you have.

Here's a funner WxW. I'm roping worse than Peja but I blame my shitty kb with keylock

A free win gives a message like "don't pick this scheme again". You don't want to report a free win more than once and it makes u pick something else. No good. I admit that VoK and I have just clowned around in RR in some occasions, which is like giving a free win. You should play the pick and try your best even if u hate the scheme. You can always do the same to your opponent and pick the scheme that he hates the most. It's up to players whether they want 2 games where either player has no fun or 2 games where both players have fun.

I don't understand picking the opponent's weakest scheme when that means hardly any points and an unbalanced game, though (when u don't need to improve your winning ratio). People just want a worthless win on their record or what? Now Komo says that he enjoys BnG even if his opponent sucks but at least for me there's no fun if there's no real opponent. I don't usually pick my opponent's weakest scheme but a scheme where I'm a slight favorite. I get an exciting game and good points.

Final

Almog (1) vs vesuvio (2)

Deadline: Wednesday 2016-06-22 (14 days)

Quote from: Sensei on June 07, 2016, 02:15 PM
Why you guys even considered letting player rejoin for PO's?

Maybe because we had agreed that he plays the PO for TdC and leaves after that? He left earlier than planned because of misunderstanding.

btw, here's your biased mod questioning MI's decision to give TdC the PO spot instead of l3x in season #46. I even opened a thread about it on moderators' board.

Quote from: Senator on October 09, 2015, 03:24 PM
hey are u sure about the clanner po? l3x had better winning ratio than TdC (42,85 vs 42).

And here I decided a complaint for NiCo and against VoK. Someone might have given the win to VoK because he was close to winning and it was NiCo who dropped.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/leagues-complaints/(solved)-http-www-tus-wa-com-leagues-game-208259-29106/

Quote from: lalo on June 06, 2016, 11:04 PM
Moreover, tdc didn't even meet the minimum requirements to deserve a spot, whilst TaG had better ratio and was just 2 games behind.

Firstly, MI moves the clans to the playoffs, not me. But I agreed here with MI. 40 games is the very minimum requirement. If u don't bother to play even 40 games, u don't simply deserve a PO spot. Not to mention TdC had way more points and only slightly worse winning ratio. To be clear, neither TdC nor TaG deserves to be in the PO but we want to organize playoffs for those clans who qualified and MI thinks it's better to have 4 clans in there.

@subject
So if someone plays the whole season for TdC and then joins dt in the last day, he can't play PO for either clan? Or can he play for dt although he didn't play any games for them during the season? What if I play 50 games for TdC, then join other clan for 10 games and return to TdC just before the playoffs? Can I play for TdC? Where do u draw the line?

Remember Sbaffo was 56 of 60 days in TdC and he left too early because he thought that TdC won't make it to the playoffs. We even talked earlier that he would leave after the playoffs. If Sbaffo had joined FUB the last day and then rejoined TdC the next day, I bet no one would be questioning his eligibility to play for TdC. It just looks bad now coz he is in FUB and not in TdC. But he won't participate anyway coz he doesn't mind rejoining, leaving and rejoining again (not sure if fada would even let him in).

Quote from: lalo on June 06, 2016, 11:04 PM
The number of games is irrelevant, if you played 50 games and it's ok to play this PO, I think I need to play 50 games with any clan in order to play PO's with them and cfc.

A player can play playoffs for one clan only, that's for sure. The question is, should a player be allowed to play for any clan in a case like this. If yes, which clan? FUB or TdC? You are disallowing a player who played 51 clanners during the season to play for any clan. Imo he should be allowed to represent some clan, in this case TdC would make the most sense (if he just rejoined TdC).

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cFc, how about Wednesday or Thursday 19 GMT? If that's too early for u, maybe at the weekend then.

Wow.. my post wasn't any decision If u noticed I used words "dunno", "guess", "not sure" and also wrote in conditional and used a smile. I was more like thinking out loud and waiting what other people think about the situation. Seems like barman understood and told his opinion as ex mod. Thanks for the shitstorm anyway

Quote from: Anubis on June 05, 2016, 11:25 PM

Quote from: Senator on June 04, 2016, 04:13 PM

Quote from: Aerox on May 29, 2016, 11:39 AM
I mean, if you're going to propose a change why not go the whole way?

- Only the worm going first needs to zook first turn.

Now that I think about it, this rule wouldn't be that bad (Anubis suggested that too). Even if the 1st player couldn't attack with bazooka (because of too good bazooka hide) while the 2nd player could attack with a mine/nade, the game would be going to be a draw. Not that unfair, is it?

You will always be able to do some damage as decent roper player, regardless of wind/hide. I am not speaking of 40+ attacks. But 20+ is doable with ANY wind in any hide.

Yeh. One drawback remains though: only the first player needs to show bazooka/knocking skills. But let's say the first player should tele to a starting spot drawn at the bottom. Even then bazooka 1st wouldn't make sense because both players would be dependent on crate luck (they have ~12 secs in a 15 sec map when u count the time needed for knocking). Bazooka 1st should apply only to the first player or not at all. The latter option would be like in WxW when barrels and mines ruin the hides around the first worm and the second player is forced to give the first player shorter first run. In Roper it would just happen in every game..

I may host a cup where bazooka 1st applies only to the player who goes first and players have 210 HP at start With these settings the first attacks should be "equally" hard for both players and a game without missed attacks ends in a draw (if no fall damage occurs). The effect of starting order is minimized.

Quote from: Sbaffo on June 06, 2016, 06:22 AM
Am i allowed to play for tdc? Been the whole season tdc and i didn't know they  would have made it

Dunno what the policy has been here. I guess it would be ok if u rejoined TdC for the playoffs (you played 50 games for TdC and 1 game for FUB). Not sure if that bureaucracy is even needed

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/classic-playoffs/?s=50;style=clanner

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Semifinals

cFc (1) vs TdC (4)
pbc (2) vs dt (3)

Final

pbc (2) vs TdC (4)

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Final deadline: Sunday 2016-07-17 (14 days)

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Use this thread to arrange your games. No response by the deadline = disqualification.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/classic-playoffs/?s=50

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Quarterfinals

daiNa (1) vs Senator (8)
Bry4N (4) vs dibz (5)

lalo (3) vs Almog (6)
Sbaffo (2) vs Lukz (7)

Semifinals

daiNa (1) vs dibz (5)
Sbaffo (2) vs lalo (3)

Final

daiNa (1) vs lalo (3)

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Final deadline: Sunday 2016-08-21

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Use this thread to arrange your games. Let us know if you can't play before the deadline. No response by the deadline = disqualification.

Quote from: Komito on June 05, 2016, 09:40 AM
the fact you said Lukz has already played 2 games this Season with Sbaffo just puts the cherry on top lol.

More like it disproves your argument that Lukz stopped playing because of what happened in the past. 2 of 15 games wasn't enough to avoid further games. Not sure if the line is 8 games or what but definitely not 2 games.

Seems like this case brought Lukz and Sbaffo happily together since they've played 5 games more after the free win

*solved*

Quote from: Sbaffo on June 04, 2016, 05:38 PM
We played the game.

Btw is it allowed to shot on a mine near your opponent worm and make it explode?
Perhaps we have to rm

Not even sure if that's allowed but u skipped (u fell) your next turn so it doesn't matter

Quote from: Komito on June 04, 2016, 11:47 AM
You might not see it, but Lukz had problems with you in the past, yes this is a League but it's a "Just for fun" enviroment, you can't really force someone to play you if you have gave them problems in the past.

Lukz was willing to play 2 games with Sbaffo this season and saw his current behavior, though. I didn't see Sbaffo insulting in those 2 games.

Things start getting complicated and ambiguous when mods will consider who doesn't like who and what was the reason for avoiding. Imo my decision went by the books (it was a quick decision because it was easy). At least ropa agreed with a mod's decision for once

*bump*

Quote from: Aerox on May 29, 2016, 11:39 AM
I mean, if you're going to propose a change why not go the whole way?

- Only the worm going first needs to zook first turn.

Now that I think about it, this rule wouldn't be that bad (Anubis suggested that too). Even if the 1st player couldn't attack with bazooka (because of too good bazooka hide) while the 2nd player could attack with a mine/nade, the game would be going to be a draw. Not that unfair, is it?

Even avirex approves the removal of zook 1st!!

Quote from: avirex on March 14, 2013, 07:40 PM
speaking of that....  "zook first" was adopted from worms2 rope scheme, but there was a reason for it.... it was because there was random placement, there was no tele placement on worms2...

so parachute was disabled (so you could not knock if your worm was placed on top) and zook was in first turn, so there was less chance to get fd.


whats the purpose of zook first in w:a? just gives the first player a big advantage, and adds (even more) factor of luck, due to wind...


maybe we should change roper scheme to all weaps first turn???...

So bazooka 1st is there to make it harder to attack from top hide. What's the reason for having it for the 2nd player who starts from the bottom? To give him like 12s in a 15s map??