Quote from: Cueshark on August 19, 2010, 01:56 AM
Quote from: Mablak on August 18, 2010, 09:48 PM
Maciej, most people who would deny 2 spaces being legit aren't jealous noobs, in fact most are probably old school pros who could care less about taps. And comments like 'one space is harder to learn' aren't reasons for the legitimacy of 2 spaces, since you could also say a macro program is easier to learn.
Also, I would have to say that using any external programs, or even kbs with 2 spaces, would have been almost unanimously frowned upon not long ago. But since people like me didn't do anything to establish any kind of 'official' standard for keyboards, in leagues or otherwise, I can't say that people who adopted 2 spaces were really going against any standard ruling they could've known about. Which is the main argument I used to have, thinking 2-space users were going against community-accepted rules, but really we never made those rules ironclad in any way.
Anyway, I'm okay with saying 2 spaces is legal, though I have more respect for people who learn the harder way, on one space.
Whilst I agree with most of your post, I disagree that one space is harder. I think worrying about 2 fingers on 2 spaces, or 2 fingers on one space is much harder.
As for Maciej's post. I don't see a problem with him ranting about something he cares passionately about. From his perspective he has learned a skill which he is proud of and instead of respect he is getting people call him lame. That would piss me off too.
I think it comes down to the fact that some people, especially when they lose, find any excuse to put down their opponent rather than accept defeat graciously. If they see fr taps they will probably call you a lame cheat because it makes them feel better and it gives them something to blame for their loss other than their lack of skill. Don't worry about it man.
Very wise words Cue, I totally agree, I also totally disagree with Mablak:
Mablak, I am personally, along with Chicken and Avirex one of the oldest players on WA who have ALWAYS been active, so saying "But since people like me didn't do anything to establish any kind of 'official' standard for keyboards" is kind of wrong, just because you are one of the best, which you are undoubtly lol, sure you can influence other peoples opinions, but you can't make them on your own, just like me and BnG, people listen to me, but I don't go around making decisions on my own, I can only try to influence people, anyway:
I started out with roping, I have ALWAYS roped on 1 spacebar, until earlier this year, I spilled Vodka on my best keyboard which was a 13 year old Dell, and perfect for 2 hand taps and normal on the normal spacebar, anyway, point is, I tried finding another keyboard, I spent over £150, on about 8 different keyboards, just this year trying to find one that works, NONE of them worked perfect, some tapped fast, but 3 key lock, some had no 3 key lock but wouldn't let me tap and keep beeping me randomly for no reason.
So anyway, after spending this amount of money, and still having no luck, why should I keep buying different keyboards when I can use a keychanger? Or use 2 spacebars because 1 sucks, Having 2 spacebars on a slow crappy keyboard, is exactly the same imo to having 1 spacebar that is absolutely amazing, you tamper with your spacebar Cody, you have admitted to putting things under there, imo this is worse than just having 2 natural, untampered with spacebars, although I still think this is fine and nothing wrong with it, I think it is worse than doing something that is natural, I think they are both as bad as each other, but both acceptable and completely innocent, some keyboards come standard with 2 spaces, what keyboards come natural with crap stuck under there?
I can rope good again thanks to keychanger allowing me to use Left Control instead of the Spacebar, give me a keyboard I can rope exactly the same with on the standard spacebar, WITHOUT having to tamper with it, and i'll use it
With this logic, golfers shouldn't be able to do weights to help out their arms, footballers shouldn't be allowed to excercise and stretch before a match because it helps them to loosen up, rugby players shouldn't be able to weightlift to get incredibly huge to help them tackle their opponents, pool players shouldn't be allowed to use chalk to give their shot more accuracy or whatever it does, the list goes on.
These are similar examples showing that it is ok to do something to help and make it more interesting without taking away the skill-factor, using keychanger, or 2 spaces does not instantly make you awesome, it's a style people are looking for, not a cheat, and doing this, does not make them cheaters or lame, like I said before, it's the arrows thats makes the roper, not the spacebar...
Damn just realised this is a ridiculously huge post, but anyone who cares will read it all, anyway, Cody lol, I think this is the 1st time i've ever disagreed with you... :O
Profile
