Trust me, if anything could 100% prove "God" existed, I would believe, but nothing ever will.

Quote from: Almog
komo, you're just WRONG in almost everything you say
first, I weren't taught religion by my parents , I chose to be a believer only a few years ago, and it was after I already had some biology background the the evolution theory stuff of darvin which is btw proven to be false.

You can't say I am wrong because you don't have proof, the darwin theory has neither been proven right OR wrong.

Quote from: Almogdude, hypnosis brings people back to their previous lives.. for example a guy I know during hypnosis was speaking fluent german as if it was his main language, and this guy didn't even know a word when he was awake.. and the number of strories like that only raises everyday... so if that's not enough proof for you that there is reincarnation I don't know what is, can science explain it?

How can this prove this is reincarnation? And what does it have to do with "God"?

Just because some guy undergoes hypnosis and speaks fluent German does not mean God exists and it's Gods doing, it also doesn't prove reincarnation is real. Again these things are just things mankind has made ourselves, not God.

Quote from: Almogwho said anything about not having a choice? any each of us has a free will and choice and makes his own fate
once again, you are wrong and it all comes from not learning deeply the bible

Again, you can't say I am wrong as you have no proof, If you read the bible and believe all you can, how can you possibly believe in reincarnation AND heaven and hell? This itself flaws itself.

Quote from: Almoganother time being wrong, or just not-accepting
god gave the name for himself, in fact, god has over 70 names in the bible, but yeah, it's in Hebrew and the English word "God" wasn't there.. and each of his names have a meaning of his exsistance and clues for his characterictis

Like Cue just said, the bible was written by Humans, with no help whatsoever by a "divine being"

Quote from: Almogthat's just impossible, cuz if everything must be created there's never a first creator, so it's a paradox that science will never figure
but I tell you there is an answer for this, which I can't explain here, and it basically about god being exist forever, outside time scale

Theres no paradox, what you are saying just can't exist, how can "God" create us, but nothing creates him? This just doesn't make sense and you know it, deep down you KNOW this just can't be true.

Think about it seriously, you say you can't explain it, because you just can't, because there is no explanation, if "God" existed outside our "Time scale" then he would have no effect on us whatsoever and couldn't have created us.

Quote from: Almogonce again, English word "him", obviously god has no body, so he can't have a mother, so he wasn't born
please don't go into stupid things like that. language can't always express spiritual stuff

You are the one that said stupid things like god is a "him" if god has no body, and no sex, and no physical presence then obviously "he/she/it" is NOT a "him"

Quote from: Almogagain wrong, or you just repling to my post without even reading it carefully
I said god has always been there, cuz he created the time, so there was nothing before him. therefore there's no need in point of existing him, but dicuss the point of why he made us exist

How can you say "God" has always been there? If he has always been there and always will be there then why the hell doesn't "God" contact us, or help to make us all at peace with each other.

"God" Didn't create time, Humans did, animals don't know what Time is, they are still a part of our universe, Time is only something we made up to describe and remember the length of things in their existence.

If you are saying "God" always was and always is, then you are indefinately saying he DOES exist in time, whether "God" likes it or not.

Quote from: Almoghave you ever tried to look differently in the bible other than bedtime story?
have you even considered that maybe, just maybe, it's true ? and there is more into it than just stories?

I used to go to Church and Sunday School when I was younger, it never felt right, I always challenged the "teachers" with questions they could not answer, it made them look foolish without me even realising it, when they couldn't answer my questions in a way that actually made sense and proved something to me, I stopped believing and realised the truth, there is no such thing as "God".

Quote from: Almogthanks

You are welcome

Quote from: nino on October 02, 2010, 02:00 PM
but every baby burns atheist until someone start to say stuff to him/her.. then that kid grow up believing in something that he/she isnot so mature to think about yet.

This is exactly my problem, people are more or less programmed into believe such a thing, because they have no choice, they should be told nothing until at least adulthood and then be told the storys of God and the bible etc, I bet a ridiculously high percentage of people would not believe if it was like this...

Quote from: Almog
what brings me to whole this, is simply things I've experienced in my life, or my friends have...
the only thing that can divert my beliefs is if somone will be able to answer the question - How did it all start? and I'm not talking about the theories of the big bang, I'm talking about the first-ever tiniest energy made... until then - I stick to believe god did all this

Most people experience the exact same things, share the exact same feelings, the only difference is the way they perceive this and this depends on where they were born, their upbringing how their parents treated them and events in their childhood.

I personally mean no offence, but also, I can't believe there are people that actually believe in something that has NEVER even had any slight chance of their being ANY proof.

I really don't intend to upset or anger anyone here but this IS what this thread is about, sharing your opinion, but to me, people that believe in god are weak minded and deep down inside just scared of death and other things we can't explain. It's like they are sheep, following a life that has already been determined and they really have no choice over their events in their life, I can't sit back and accept this, if I believed in this, i'd rather die than have no choice in my own fate.

Even using the word "God" to me is just stupid, God is just a word that Humans made up and even IF their was a "God" I doubt this being would call itself "God" as this would imply a "godlike complex" which seems a bit selfish, so why would a being that created everything have a higher personality than the very things it created itself?

Quote from: Almog
well, it's hard for me to explain this, but I'll try
God created everything you know, including the Time dimension.. hence God isn't subordinated to (hope it's the right word) time. that means in god's terms, being allmighty and creating the time, there isn't a future, present, or past, therefore - there was nothing before him

I know it's hard to understand or believe even, but the blible is not only a story, there are 4 ways to read it, when the first one is yeah reading and understanding the story, but every level deeper you reveal the bible is a code and everything is written there..

I am with nino here, everything must be created, your explanation is jibberish and extremely flawed.

For example, you call "God" a "him" which implies he must have a Mother, so technically someone DID create him.

If there WAS nothing before "God" then what would be the point of his existence?

If there was nothing in the present then nothing would have happened therefor he didn't create mankind...

The above applies to the future.

To me the Bible is just like a bedtime story, makes people feel safe and loved and wanted, because all bedtimes storys end nice, although I know everything in the Bible is not "nice" the jist of it implies it's the moral thing to believe in.

I do respect your choice to believe what you believe Almog, and I really don't mean any offence, because you believe what you believe and I believe what I believe and we still get along just fine, so theres no harm done.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thats that.

I mean when i say the name darkstar in my head it rings a bell, but you are talking 11 years ago lol, I probably don't remember then because I must not have played with him/her alot.

The name rings a bell, but I really don't remember...

And just to point out, I wasn't making a statement by the question I just asked, It was a serious question.

Ask yourself this, what is it that even makes you care?

Quote from: Cueshark on October 01, 2010, 05:54 PMI was nothing before I was born and I'll be nothing after.

No one can answer that.

Quote from: Husk on October 01, 2010, 02:57 PMgod = santaclaus, open ur eyes!

So you are saying my dad is god?

Could you get these games finished please, you have 10 days, good luck !

Best of 3, best of luck to both of you !

Best of 3, I look forward to playing you lacoste

This season picked up a bit after last month's with the Worm Olympics beforehand, so thats nice to see.

Thanks to everyone who took part in our 5th season and congratulations to the players who reached the playoffs in this season:

1st -   lacoste 62% - 54 points
2nd -  skime 62% - 47 points
3rd -   Komo 100% - 45 points
4th -   wormf00d 67% - 35 points

1st vs 3rd & 2nd vs 4th.

The losers of the Semi's will play each other for 3rd place, and the winners obviously play for the Final.

The pairings are as follows:

lacoste Vs Komo
skime Vs wormf00d

*** IMPORTANT ***

Remember you only have until the end of the month to finish your games.

There will be individual threads where you will upload your replays and final results for the Semi's, the Final and the 3rd place decider, the winner will upload all replays (including any game they lost), this means if you won 2-1 you will still be required to upload all 3 games to the relative thread.

For example:

"PlayerName" - I won "x"-"x"

You may include any comments you wish within the thread.

Any post that does not concern the playoffs will be deleted immediately.

I personally wish you all the best in your playoff matches !

Good luck and have fun !

Thanks.

Quote from: darKz on October 01, 2010, 02:29 AMBasically there is one creator - the Blacksmith - who forged the entire universe with his powerful hammer and anvil of steel, wearing nothing but a loincloth. He's undoubtedly the manliest of men, standing in his burning forge and sweating in eternity while hurling his mighty hammer at those who are not worthy.

Remind me to never drop my keys in front of you...