Bonus Level 9 was kinda sloppy. Updated it.

Quote from: nino on September 26, 2016, 10:55 PM
I know if one disc break all data is lost, but iam just asking about the performance, for the case one disc break, we would use backup.

I would say it's not worth it just for gaming, it's not worth it just for most common computer stuff. But if you run VM's, or edit large files and need to load and save them faster, or do something that requires you to stream a lot of data from the disc, it is worth it. For example, if you're into making music, you better believe it's worth it for working with mega-huge sample libraries. There are virtual pianos with so many round robins, velocity layers, and mic positions that loading them into RAM just becomes kind of silly. 2 striped SSD's is actually the recommended configuration by East West for using their instruments. But even for instruments that you don't stream from the disk, load times are still important if you're trying to audition different instruments for playing the same recorded loop of notes.

For normal use and gaming use though, you just won't notice a difference. Huge difference between HDD and SSD, much less a difference going up to RAID 0. Also boot time might be slower.

HB Dude

Quote from: nino on September 25, 2016, 03:34 PM
@Triad.

Do you think a RAID 0 with 4 SSD discs of 256GB will really run much faster than a RAID 0 with 2 SSD  of 512GB?

To be honest i would never use raid 0 at all. Because if one SSD breaks, all the data is broken. Not sure about speed advantage, i guess it depends on the total bandwidth of the controller.

Congratulations dude, wish you a great marriage.

Don't rush with having kids. Enjoy your time with your partner since when you have kids your main focus will be them.

Quote from: Schw on September 18, 2016, 12:22 PM
what do u think of my build ? would like to know if its balanced enough.

Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Black/Orange
MSI X99A RAIDER USB 3.1
EVGA Supernova T2 850W 80 Plus Titanium Modular
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB SATA3 64MB
Intel Core i7-6850K
Enermax Liqtech 240
Asus DRW-24F1MT DVD 24X
Samsung 950 PRO M.2 SSD 256GB
Sapphire AMD Radeon Pro Duo 8GB HBM
Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 2133 PC4-17000 64GB 4X16GB CL14

Just thinking about upgrading ram to 2400, I will add 64gb more to make it 128gb in some time anyways.

You can run Batman Arkham Knight v1.00 @ 720p Medium 30FPS.

Awesome. I will watch some of those replays when I'll be on PC.

If greatest coders of the world gathered and asked me what to add on a perfect WA:
> Hats. Because we love swags. You don't like swag? Just like you can turn off background and water, add a button to disable viewing them.
> Missions that teach you some scheme essentials like roping etc. So you'll have some skills when you play online.
> Some tutorial missions you must play before league or other schemes online so you won't join a Shopper game and shoot zooka around.
> Special scheme mechanics. Auto placement and finish gate for RR, Project X WxW(Walls change color after you touch them), your weapons act as /boomracing on WxW if you didn't touch walls and/or get a crate, auto placement and auto score count for darts etc. etc.
> Built in Worms Wikipedia, so you can learn schemes n shit.
> Integrated TUS, ONL, WO etc. If you get certain achievements (new rank on TUS leagues, medal on WO etc) you get special swag! Golden zooka, glowing rope, you name it!
> Real time gameplay for new scheme opportunities. Real-time racing, arena fighter(10-15 players, all against each other, real time, zook n rope, you don't lose control when you get hit but only die when hp becomes zero), and many more possibilities.
> Forts mod, with ability to use your own forts! Your fort needs to be approved before in case some people use nude, gore image etc.
> Improved random maps mechanics like MapGEN, RRGEN.
> Custom missions, being able to make custom contents. Just check how far Skyrim went thanks to fan contents. New weapons, new terrains, new possibilities.
> Being able to rejoin a game after you drop. Rocket League has it, why not WA too?

But here I am, staring at screen and dreaming one day devs will bring awesome features and WA gain popularity.

Good read. You can actually consider turning it into a PDF or something once you finish it. Best e-book I would ever read.

Quote from: Rabbit on September 14, 2016, 01:27 AM
Also what are the differences between the power supplys like bronze, modular, semi modular and all that stuff. Ive never understood what it means, I just know I have to have enough wattage.

All those labels tell you is their efficiency levels at 20%, 50%, and 100% load.

A bronze rated PSU will waste around 18% when at 100% load.
Meaning if you have a 600Watt bronze rated PSU running at 100% load, about 108 watts will turn to heat.

If you have a 1200W PSU running at 50%, a bronze PSU will waste 15%.
50% of 1200 = 600. + 15% = 90. That means the PSU will draw in 600W, and an additional 90W that'll turn into heat.


Fully Modular Power Supplies (or PSU's) Have NO cables plugged in permanently. They come with the required cables in the box, which means if there are any cables that you don't need, you don't have to have the wire taking up extra space and looking clumsy in your system.

Non-Modular PSU's have ALL of the cables permanently attached to the PSU. None can be added or removed, for all-intensive purposes. There is no real disadvantage other than the issue of having cables that are not in use.

Semi-Modular PSU's are just how they sound, some of the cables are fixed, some cables can be plugged in or out. The cables that are fixed are usually the obvious ones:
ATX (Motherboard) Connector
EPS (CPU) Connector
Occasionally a PCI-E, (For Graphics cards mostly) either a 6-Pin or a 6+2 Pin.

Quote from: Rabbit on September 14, 2016, 01:27 AM
I actually had all my prices set to pc case gear but it changed once I posted it here. The problem with using different shops is the shipping prices bring the price up too much for me that why I just stick with one shop.

Here's a single merchant edition:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($325.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($249.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: Led Case Lights ($22.00)
Total: $2025.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-14 15:51 AEST+1000

Quote from: Rabbit on September 13, 2016, 01:52 PM
I'm planning something like this. I would OC the i5 as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($325.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($235.00 @ IJK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($118.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($639.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($133.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($129.00 @ Umart)
Other: Led Case Lights ($22.00)
Total: $1864.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-13 23:49 AEST+1000

That PSU seems pricey for a 80+ Bronze. You can find 80+ Gold at similar price in AU:
Power Supply: XFX XTR 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.00 @ CPL Online)

You might consider higher clock version of 1070:
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($699.00 @ Shopping Express)

Rest looking good to me.

Quote from: Sensei on September 13, 2016, 11:59 AM
I'm gonna buy new pc soon. After deciding on a monitor, budget for rest of the configuration is around 600$-650$.
This is a list of components I had in mind:



+ CPU: INT Core i3 6098P
+ MOBO: MSI H110M PRO-D, LGA 1151, DDR4-2133, Military Class 4


What you think guys?

Get 4GB version of Sapphire if price difference is not high. I don't know about manufacturer of RAM so can't comment. It looks like a good entry level gaming build.

Oh, I know retropie. A friend of mine had it on his Raspberry Pi 2.

It would be pain in the ass for me to split clan to four division. But idea is not bad, so let me give a counter offer.

Remove clanners and put a new system called League Squads or something. To summarize the system:
> Each squad will have 5-7 members, a number will set based on poll or stuff.
> Each squad has 1 season lifetime. A new squad has to be formed each season.
> Let's say each squad has 6 players, next season max 3 players can be same squad again. Like Squad Z has members: A, B, C, D, E, F. Next season maximum 3 of these guy can be same squad again. This will encourage people to team up with different people and prevent OP people to dominate every season.
> Maybe something like you cannot quit squad after first 2 weeks of league and join another. Just be loyal for god damn 60 days(+PO if your clan goes for it)
> Clans and squad are separate groups.

Just a thought.

Quote from: TheMadCharles on September 12, 2016, 02:20 PM

Quote from: Triad on September 12, 2016, 10:11 AM
Level 9 (~$8700)
You're rich and want a no budget overkill PC that you probably gonna end up playing only WA on it? This is the everything included overkill build you're looking for.

I would rather claim Minecraft for that

Nice list tho!

Thanks.

Yeah, Minecraft might actually require high specs if you max everything and load high contents.

Quote from: MarianRV on September 12, 2016, 03:13 PM

Quote from: Triad on September 12, 2016, 10:10 AM

Level 3 (~$470 - $540)
The console killer. You can run almost all latest games at 1080p medium-high settings with 40-60fps. If you will focus on gaming you can exclude HDD. If you wanna go cheaper but you want bigger space, you can exclude HDD SSD . But I suggest to not exclude SSD if you want a good gaming experience. Also I put better CPU and case than Level 2.

Thanks, edited.

Quote from: XanKriegor on September 12, 2016, 11:02 AM
Hoho, Intel Pentium is still alive?)

Yeah, it's still a thing for budget builds.