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Off Topic / Re: I don’t want to live anymore
« Last post by TheKomodo on Yesterday at 06:04 PM »
It’s been 8 years I’ve been mourning my best friend Anita who is actually alive and I can’t stand this anymore.

My message to Anita:
It's been 8 years already, and all I want is to have you back as friend. It's what I've always wanted; we grew up together, playing hundreds of games together with our other close friends, we were like a clan, a family, and I was always fine in not ever meeting you in real life due to your circumstances, but I can't stand losing a friend like you for good. Not when there was ever no reason to... I never did you anything to deserve this. If I'm allowing to lose you, then nothing in life has meaning. The reason I enjoyed living to this day is because I enjoyed spending time with the people I like and care about. But if I lose this, all that's left in the world is pure materialism; just money to stay alive until the day it all ends. I am not living any longer if you won't ever talk to me again.

I ask that everyone who met Anita in this game to send her a message to talk to me.
Her facebook is: https://www.facebook.com/anita.domanskaa

I’m willing to wait only a week. If she doesn’t talk to me until then, I’m doing myself.
If you are thinking of harming yourself, please get help for yourself with a crisis hotline or therapist

If you are thinking of getting people from a worms website to help you harass someone, this has already gone too far.  I hope you get the help you need and you don't hurt yourself.

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Challenges Comments / Re: Challenge #892, NdSC #42
« Last post by TheKomodo on Yesterday at 05:56 PM »
As long as a for example a trick race challenge replay can't be voided because a mexican swoosh was performed by accident instead of a swoosh (unless it is clearly stated in the description of the challenge that a mexican swoosh doesn't count as swoosh) I don't have an issue. We seem to have a fundamental disagreement about the importance how rope tricks look to determine what that trick is and that's fine. If I was abrasive, difficult or a smart ass at points in the discussion I apologize.

Yeah, to be honest, it's pretty cool that we even have different ways of measuring these things. People have different ways of interpreting things, so the good thing is, you have a method you like, I have a method I like, we both together know and understand both methods and their differences so we can still agree on any particular event with absolute certainty and award judgement accordingly.

Sorry if I came across as a pain as well, but thanks for sticking in there and helping us out!
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Challenges Comments / Re: Challenge #892, NdSC #42
« Last post by Masta on Yesterday at 05:22 PM »
As long as a for example a trick race challenge replay can't be voided because a mexican swoosh was performed by accident instead of a swoosh (unless it is clearly stated in the description of the challenge that a mexican swoosh doesn't count as swoosh) I don't have an issue. We seem to have a fundamental disagreement about the importance how rope tricks look to determine what that trick is and that's fine. If I was abrasive, difficult or a smart ass at points in the discussion I apologize.
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Off Topic / Re: I don’t want to live anymore
« Last post by TheWalrus on Yesterday at 05:21 PM »
It’s been 8 years I’ve been mourning my best friend Anita who is actually alive and I can’t stand this anymore.

My message to Anita:
It's been 8 years already, and all I want is to have you back as friend. It's what I've always wanted; we grew up together, playing hundreds of games together with our other close friends, we were like a clan, a family, and I was always fine in not ever meeting you in real life due to your circumstances, but I can't stand losing a friend like you for good. Not when there was ever no reason to... I never did you anything to deserve this. If I'm allowing to lose you, then nothing in life has meaning. The reason I enjoyed living to this day is because I enjoyed spending time with the people I like and care about. But if I lose this, all that's left in the world is pure materialism; just money to stay alive until the day it all ends. I am not living any longer if you won't ever talk to me again.

I ask that everyone who met Anita in this game to send her a message to talk to me.
Her facebook is: https://www.facebook.com/anita.domanskaa

I’m willing to wait only a week. If she doesn’t talk to me until then, I’m doing myself.
If you are thinking of harming yourself, please get help for yourself with a crisis hotline or therapist

If you are thinking of getting people from a worms website to help you harass someone, this has already gone too far.  I hope you get the help you need and you don't hurt yourself. 
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Cups and Tournaments Comments / Re: Cup #1240, Fruity Massacre
« Last post by Rocket on Yesterday at 04:56 PM »
ye it's ok, will be here
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Files Comments / Re: File #2524, Butters - South Park
« Last post by Lupastic on Yesterday at 04:41 PM »
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Challenges Comments / Re: Challenge #892, NdSC #42
« Last post by TheKomodo on Yesterday at 04:38 PM »
I'm asking you to be on the latest version of the game, press Shift + 0 + 9 and take an extra 5-10 seconds to check rare edge cases. You are asking me to always be unsure if I actually did a trick and having to restart mid-game to check. You are asking a lot more of me than I am asking of you.

Wait what?

You're asking me to take an extra 5-10 seconds to check, but somehow I'm asking more of you? How is something that takes longer actually faster lol? You're the one asking ME to do more, something that takes longer, and isn't as common.

It takes longer than 5-10 seconds because... You do realize that in Darts you don't have a rope shooting either direction as a signal right? So if the rope looks like it's on the wrong side we have to check anyway, and we want to check using frame by frame, not super slow motion tweening method.

How long it takes aside, why would you be unsure if the method I use is simple to understand and clear/visible to see? I don't believe you are "unsure" as you understood perfectly enough how I measure it to debate about it and specifically explain the difference between the methods.

Your measurement method takes slightly longer and requires an extra step as opposed to skipping to the time and just skipping frame by frame.

Not to mention it's not how long it takes that's important it's what you actually see, and as I've said before, your method involves "tweening". What you are seeing is something that's been added to the game more recently, which is why the method I use is more traditional, historic and authentic.



On the bright side, this is something that you are only ever going to have to use on very few occasions, and on those occasions it's up to the moderators of the event to decide which way to use so they can do it however they like.

Triad and I have decided that for Darts Challenges and dS Stuff we're going to do it the way we've mentioned. Interestingly enough, the result is the same in the end than if we did it your way anyway since the frame you personally think of as a swoosh is something we allow now anyway.

When it comes to Darts at least, you would have to check either way since you don't have the rope shoot direction to even see if it was an arch or a mexi. It just makes more sense to me this way.
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Cups and Tournaments Comments / Re: Cup #1240, Fruity Massacre
« Last post by Godmax on Yesterday at 04:33 PM »
Its bo5.
Well f@#! off 5pm is ok too.
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Challenges Comments / Re: Challenge #892, NdSC #42
« Last post by Masta on Yesterday at 04:19 PM »
I'm asking you to be on the latest version of the game, press Shift + 0 + 9 and take an extra 5-10 seconds to check rare edge cases. You are asking me to always be unsure if I actually did a trick and having to restart mid-game to check. You are asking a lot more of me than I am asking of you.
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Challenges Comments / Re: Challenge #892, NdSC #42
« Last post by TheKomodo on Yesterday at 04:00 PM »
In this case you can't see the grenade touching the wall. In your view does this mean the bounce doesn't count and that the red team didn't win the game? It looks like the grenade was repulsed by a magnetic force, perhaps you would like to say it was repulsed instead of bounced in this case? The replay is attached.

You can hear bounce off the wall and you can see that it changed direction.

Not sure what you are trying to achieve here other than trying to be a smartarse now?

We don't judge "tricks" with grenades or how they hit, we just use them to hit. It's not as relevant HOW they hit, unless you play BnG with rules like no sitters, but do you know what I mean?

A scenario where two players are playing trick race:
Quote
*Player 1 does a swoosh after 10 minutes of trying*
Player 2: That was kind of close to the edge, let's close the game and look at the replay frame by frame to make sure it wasn't a mexican swoosh.
*Turns out it was a mexican swoosh*
Player 2: You must try to do it again, you didn't do a swoosh. Now let's start the game, teleport back to our old positions and resume playing.
This is unreasonable and cumbersome to me. This scenario is one practical reason for why I'm arguing against the notion that how it looks is what counts. It's so this doesn't become the way we have to do things, as you say f that.

Do you think I have pity for 2 players who can't do a pretty easy enough move after 10 minutes of trying in a Trick Race lol? Sounds like they need to get better lol.

Try harder though Masta. It's not a good enough example to change my mind, the way I measure it is still more practical in my opinion.

If it's so bad, then just do what Triad and I did, allow mexican swooshes to count as swooshes. The way you do it is unreasonable and cumbersome to me, it literally takes longer to check it your way than my way. At least if you are watching in slow motion waiting to see the rope angle if you don't have access to TA.

Technically speaking we ARE actually using the information you reminded us of though, just in a different way from what you want, it was useful though, thanks!



If you ARE trying to convince me otherwise though, tackle it with this approach... Don't tell me what's more practical for YOU, think of something that would appeal to ME.

Right now, I see zero actual problems with doing it your way OR my way, they are both valid ways of measuring, it's just that the way I do it is more comfortable, feels more natural, it's faster to check for me personally etc. It also feels more traditional, historic and authentic to me.

The way you do it, you couldn't even check with the original game. So if you want to convince me you're going to have to think of something that appeals to me, not you since this is based on opinion.



Oh, one more thing!

Don't worry about it anyway, if you want to make a trick race and ALLOW it, then you are free to allow it in that Trick Race, you can say "This is what is considered a genune swoosh in this challenge" then define it any way you want.
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