You guys don't understand how many people are on these servers on a daily basis?  None of you fuckers will even play TUS with me, save for a very select few.  We can barely support 1 league, once we had active TUS/TRL/TEL/FREE all at the same time.  Now we have 0 active leagues, and you want to divide that activity?  If I thought there would even be a single player or old player coming back to play that would put in 50 GP into the TRL, I could support it.  Unfortunately, it's not happening, Kradie's grip far outreaches his grasp.  I think it is more about ZaR prestige than actually playing singles in a TRL.

Singles league is dying and people want TRL tailored to their needs?  This idea seems selfish to me, just ACTUALLY play some ZaR in regular TUS, its been an option for ages if both agree yet literally no one plays it.  I'm tired of these additional league and TRL ideas, these aren't real solutions to the problem of activity, they just go in the opposite direction.

For the record, I hope you guys prove me wrong, maybe it can be a success, but I doubt it.  I won't be supporting this league at all, but will look forward to TUS singles ZaR if anyone wants to pick it with me, im not opposed.  I won't support 3 leagues at all when I literally have been the only one playing any sort of singles this past week.  This site is completely dead and this is an asinine idea.  Actually play singles, ZaR people, and I might believe you, right now I don't think anyone will be playing.

If I was MI, I would tell you to prove it.  Play ZaR singles and prove you have enough activity to necessitate another league before you are arbitrarily handed a new league.  The more I think about this idea the more I think about how stupid it is.

If anything, we should be subtracting a league.

At least I don't need money to motivate me to have fun. Of course it is nothing bad about that, and I wouldn't mind it, but it is not a requirement for me. I play mostly for fun, and to have ZaR in the league, would be another level of fun, because it would be competitive in my opinion.

Many people do actually enjoy ZaR, not just me alone, and certainly not just the members of the community. I have read many of you have said that you like ZaR, so if you like something, you could be more passionate about it. Though you could argue that not everything goes hand in hand and shouldn't belong there. But then again, we would be comparing Roper and ZaR again, which is done to death by now, and everyone have their thoughts and feelings about that.

I might seem selfish, but I am pushing for something I am passionate about, and I am sure some of you can relate to that. ZaR is prestige scheme indeed, I am proud of the members, happy with the games and times spent with everyone partaking. Some members have even come to me and said ''Kradie, I voted no for ZaR in main league''. I was cool with that, because we are friends and we enjoy ZaR together.

I'm not against your scheme, Sensei. I just wasn't sure if those changes were supposed to fix something or just make the scheme better for yourself. I don't play Aerial, that's true.

Every change made by sensei to the aerial scheme is grounded in making the scheme more competitive and taking out all the variation from bad spawns, ect. 

I'll make my case in TUS style with a wall of text. 

Mines - 3 sec is better than the original random fuse, random mines are quite ridiculous in a competitive league scheme, full stop.  Let's go beyond the most compelling point if that isn't convincing enough.  Sometimes in random placements you will find yourself in a situation where you need to get by a mine to get into the fight, you basically just have to chance it or dig out.  The biggest problem with aerial to begin with is trapped worms in initial placement.  The teleport is one of the most important utilities in aerial, you only get one.  Thus, you cannot go spending it to free trapped worms because they are behind random mines.  This is the biggest no-brainer change to aerial, I'll try and format this top to bottom, most needed to least needed.

Sudden Death - I feel sudden death is another needed change because of random placements and the proclivity of Bo3 matchups in this scheme.  Sudden death seeks to equal the playing field, if you have bad opening positions and are behind going into SD, you have a chance to win by plopping worms.  This assures no lead given to a player because of good spawns is insurmountable going into the late game.  Also, it shortens boring long games where both players are hiding and unwilling to be aggressive, thus ending a standoff. 

Petrol - This is a tough one.  Petrol is useful for taking out hiding enemy worms at the side of the map, but again, to look at the competitive dna of this game, we arrive back at the teleport issue.  With only one teleport, often you can be forced to use it at the beginning of the game to free an egregiously trapped worm.  With 4 petrols, you can easily petrol and re-petrol a worm to trap it indefinitely.  In all honesty this isn't a big change, 2 ---> 4 petrols is not a meaningful change one way or another

Mortar - Not a big change, 2 ---> 4 mortars isn't going to change much, I don't even think mortar is a more viable option than zook or nade 99% of the time, very little competitive change here. 

Uzi - Not sure, I've never used uzi in aerial.  At least not on purpose.  So I guess it could come out, would be easier for me to select shotgun

Sensei has retrofitted the scheme nicely, I think it would be a missed opportunity not to adapt the scheme.  It is a more fast paced and strategic game with the changes. 

Quote from: TheKomodo on Today at 05:50 PM

TUS main league isn't the same.

I mean people who want to try and be #1 in the League based on a scheme, or schemes they actually love, not just tolerate.

Standings are more accurate in TRL, to a certain degree.

I agree, part of the reason activity is bad imo is that there are too many schemes and people don't like giving a free win in schemes that they never play or even care about. It's just not fun for them.

I'm certain that a ZaR TRL would be successful, and may even see more games played than the main league.

I'm also prepared to donate $50 prize money for the winner of the TRL season.

Prize money changes everything, money can buy happiness on TUS.

I changed my vote.

Cl2k div 2 anyone

You guys don't understand how many people are on these servers on a daily basis?  None of you fuckers will even play TUS with me, save for a very select few.  We can barely support 1 league, once we had active TUS/TRL/TEL/FREE all at the same time.  Now we have 0 active leagues, and you want to divide that activity?  If I thought there would even be a single player or old player coming back to play that would put in 50 GP into the TRL, I could support it.  Unfortunately, it's not happening, Kradie's grip far outreaches his grasp.  I think it is more about ZaR prestige than actually playing singles in a TRL.

Singles league is dying and people want TRL tailored to their needs?  This idea seems selfish to me, just ACTUALLY play some ZaR in regular TUS, its been an option for ages if both agree yet literally no one plays it.  I'm tired of these additional league and TRL ideas, these aren't real solutions to the problem of activity, they just go in the opposite direction.

For the record, I hope you guys prove me wrong, maybe it can be a success, but I doubt it.  I won't be supporting this league at all, but will look forward to TUS singles ZaR if anyone wants to pick it with me, im not opposed.  I won't support 3 leagues at all when I literally have been the only one playing any sort of singles this past week.  This site is completely dead and this is an asinine idea.  Actually play singles, ZaR people, and I might believe you, right now I don't think anyone will be playing.

If I was MI, I would tell you to prove it.  Play ZaR singles and prove you have enough activity to necessitate another league before you are arbitrarily handed a new league.  The more I think about this idea the more I think about how stupid it is.

If anything, we should be subtracting a league.