we wanted a decent map, just want rm with handicap but this clan aparently want an easy win

It's a decent map IMO, I'm sure people can back me on this. It has sufficient hides.
You also lighted up to it, so I don't really see why you changed your mind when the game started.
You did say it didnt have 'enough' hides, but when Impo took his shot and hit you left without a word.

So we GG'ed it, which IMO was our right. You don't just quit without at least voicing your opinion on whether we should rm it or not and on what conditions. And as I mentioned, in my opinion your reasoning behind it (a 'poor' map) is lacking at best.
(edit: when you check the replay you can see the map itself is fine for a bng match, and that TAG's sudden quitting was uncalled for at best).

It was only after we said we'd take the free win for you guys quitting like that that you came around with the solution of rm'ing it with a handicap..

It's not easy wins we want, we just don't like to be f'ed with like that. And it wasn't just in the BnG that you pulled that silly stuff. In the T17 we had issues too when I wouldnt let Avi watch (cause he always bitches at Chelsea, which obviously hurts my mate's performance; and he isnt in TAG neway). Then you came up with this bogus rule that TAG 'owns' 4 spots in the game even though there was just 2 of you. And when I persisted you made me kick my mates, which got me into loads of trouble within the clan... With a little more forthcoming attitude throughout the whole series we'd be a little more forgiving..

As it is now, we claim the win.

edit2: attached the log of the Avi-thing:

i comment about of map in the lobby, i light up thinking that maybe the objects saved the map (but that dont happen), i just kick fast coz didntwanted start a conversation about of rm and play in that condition, probably we will need a big handicap for all with 4 turns speaking about of a rm (and debate that things with players like impo is loss time)

Quote from: Lukz on December 22, 2013, 06:38 PM
debate that things with players like impo is loss time

LMAO i dont give a f@#! about that game at all, I can rematch it right now if you want

Quote from: Lukz on December 22, 2013, 06:38 PM
i comment about of map in the lobby

Where?

The only thing you say is: "[2013-12-22 17.50.23] [Lukz`TaG``] la derecha es más grande xD"
Which obviously we can't understand. Google translate says it means: "the right is much bigger".

Well, thats not a problem with objects, or hides, but of sides. Then you light up the game starts. We happen to go first and place right. I guess it was at that point that you decided the map wasnt good anymore?

[00:00:13.68] [Lukz`TaG``] wtf
[00:00:15.44] [Lukz`TaG``] this side sux

And then you quit lol.

Basically you were aware the map could be lopsided, but lighted up and left after it turned to be lopsided against you. Lol.

Attached: lobby chat.

gg

gj AeF, looks like i wasn't needed at all. Sorry for leaving, but that's what peja gets for telling me to f@#! off after a lost wxw XD

If TaG wants to rematch this game, I will be playing instead of peja

Quote from: barman on December 22, 2013, 07:12 PM
gg

gj AeF, looks like i wasn't needed at all. Sorry for leaving, but that's what peja gets for telling me to f@#! off after a lost wxw XD

If TaG wants to rematch this game, I will be playing instead of peja

that will be a mod decisition

hhc we cant see objects in map if we didnt start....and before trought the first shot we sayed about a new map but we were ignored

HHC, unless you showed objects on map in the thumbnail (which is possible)

then saying "they lit up, so they agreed to map" is not a very valid thing to say... in schemes like roper, hyst, wxw, shoppa... sure...


but in bng deff not....  they asked for a new map b4 any shot was thrown, imo it was a fair request.

should be replayed,  as far as changing players... i dont think thats fair, but thats for mods to decide.


and HHC, i was in TaG for these playoffs, dunno why u booted me, i obviously had on tag tags!

Quote from: avirex on December 23, 2013, 01:11 AM
HHC, unless you showed objects on map in the thumbnail (which is possible)

then saying "they lit up, so they agreed to map" is not a very valid thing to say... in schemes like roper, hyst, wxw, shoppa... sure...

but in bng deff not....

Whats the difference? In BnG everyone uses the same tree texture (well, almost everyone). Theres small trees and slightly bigger trees, but theres no objects that are HUGE.
TAG had issues with the size of their side IMO. And only complained about it when their side was the one they didnt like in the lobby it seems.

It's not right to leave games before you settle something with the other clan or at least wait for a reply when you ask for a rematch. We didnt even get the chance to say yes or no.

The left side of the map was a bit weaker and that couldn't be spotted before the game unless Aef would show png version of the map in the lobby.

Lukz quit (and Bry4N after) without having Aef's agreement or even giving them a chance to consider which makes this disagreement in favor of Aef. You just can't quit whenever you want. You could at least talk in the game and do not fire any shots in your turn until you reach a decision. What TaG did was hasty.
But that's not punishable by costing them the final game of PO which not everyone got even their first shot.

Please rematch this game having Lukz with -21hp damage. Aef can regroup for this game.

thanks MI, just 2 things.

-bit weaker left side? this sounds like the map was ok. just asking because thats kinda the reason for the complaint.

- regroup includes barman though he is in dt now? at least i cant see a reason someone playing season 35 pos for aef is not allowed to do a season 34 final rematch. (ofc only if he wants to)

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 11, 2014, 06:16 AM
Please rematch this game having Lukz with -21hp damage. Aef can regroup for this game.

why they can regroup? in the moment that u said "Lukz with -21hp damage" i understand that this is a rematch with handicap and not a new game

because u cant quit whenever u want

Quote from: Peja on January 11, 2014, 04:54 PM
because u cant quit whenever u want

oh, i dont known that u are a new mod