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WA Cheating, Implication, and Legacy

Started by Kradie, February 12, 2025, 12:55 AM

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Do you think cheating is ok in an online multiplayer game like WA? You can elaborate your thoughts in this thread if you want.

Yes
No

TheKomodo

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 04:26 PM
Quote from: TheKomodo on March 21, 2025, 02:13 PMSo anyone else that has an opinion or comment shouldn't be allowed to have their say? I wholeheartedly disagree.

Where did I say someone shouldn't be allowed to speak or have an opinion?
Would like to be informed when you find that part of my post.

:D  :D  :D

No problem, here:

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 02:47 AMYou said it all man. Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

It would be amazing if you could either:

1: Remember what you said.
2: Understand what you're actually saying.

Quote from: sock on March 21, 2025, 08:01 PMThe wooting keyboard and further updated keyboards might be considered cheating by some, should we ban you forever?

Who cares what other people think, as long as it doesn't break the rules of the competitive environment you're competing in.

If anyone has a problem with that, tough diddies.

If it ever became officially considered cheating, then I simply wouldn't use it. Either way I'm not a cheater, I always abide by the rules and the rules are more important than peoples feelings.

sock

Quote from: TheKomodo on March 21, 2025, 09:38 PMIf it ever became officially considered cheating, then I simply wouldn't use it. Either way I'm not a cheater, I always abide by the rules and the rules are more important than peoples feelings.

AHK scripts use a faster response like the woot, yet they are considered cheating? Anyway it wasn't clear to me and some others that these scripts are considered cheats. I've used them in tus games 7 months ago and wkpin some weeks ago.I wasn't even aware wkPin and AHS were considered cheating until a few weeks ago after I looked it up with tus search

TheKomodo

Quote from: sock on March 21, 2025, 10:27 PMAHK scripts use a faster response like the woot, yet they are considered cheating? Anyway it wasn't clear to me and some others that these scripts are considered cheats. I've used them in tus games 7 months ago and wkpin some weeks ago.I wasn't even aware wkPin and AHS were considered cheating until a few weeks ago after I looked it up with tus search

AHK scripts are nothing like the wooting. Do some research.

I didn't realize you're a cheater, or were a cheater. Either way it's your own fault for not doing research before using software/hardware.

I really didn't expect you of all people to turn out to be a cheater, wtf is happening in this community now.

Kradie

Quote from: sock on March 21, 2025, 07:59 PM
Quote from: Kradie on March 21, 2025, 02:27 PMI wonder if in time the majority here will think it is ok to cheat in a online multiplayer game in the future though. So far only 2 people think it is ok. Kind of baffling if you ask me.


Seems like you are assuming 2 people think it is ok, the polls shows a different result
No.

Otherwise elaborate?
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sock


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MonkeyIsland

Quote from: sock on March 21, 2025, 10:27 PMAHK scripts use a faster response like the woot, yet they are considered cheating? Anyway it wasn't clear to me and some others that these scripts are considered cheats. I've used them in tus games 7 months ago and wkpin some weeks ago.I wasn't even aware wkPin and AHS were considered cheating until a few weeks ago after I looked it up with tus search


Not all AHK scripts are considered cheating. The ones that automatically release the previous key-down are considered as cheating. 7 months ago, what games were those? They need to be checked.
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Sensei

Quote from: TheKomodo on March 21, 2025, 09:38 PM
Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 04:26 PM
Quote from: TheKomodo on March 21, 2025, 02:13 PMSo anyone else that has an opinion or comment shouldn't be allowed to have their say? I wholeheartedly disagree.

Where did I say someone shouldn't be allowed to speak or have an opinion?
Would like to be informed when you find that part of my post.

:D  :D  :D

No problem, here:

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 02:47 AMYou said it all man. Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

It would be amazing if you could either:

1: Remember what you said.
2: Understand what you're actually saying.

Am I missing something here? Still waiting for you to tell me where did I say people shouldn't have their opinions and be allowed to speak.

Stop with prejudices and assumptions. Doesn't look good

melbo

Restore!

TheKomodo

Quote from: Sensei on March 22, 2025, 08:52 AMAm I missing something here? Still waiting for you to tell me where did I say people shouldn't have their opinions and be allowed to speak.

Yes, you are missing something however I'll walk you through it quickly:

Quote from: Sensei on March 21, 2025, 02:47 AMYou said it all man. Subject needed no further discussion after this post.

You specifically said "Subject needed no further discussion after this post."

The word "need" means - "a requirement, necessary duty, or obligation"

For example, humans NEED air to breathe, humans NEED water to survive, we cannot survive without it. Our planet NEEDS the Sun, etc.

Your words imply other people have a requirement, necessity, or obligation to speak no further in the post, simply because you dictated so.

So I came here to tell you that I disagree and explained why.


Quote from: Sensei on March 22, 2025, 08:52 AMStop with prejudices and assumptions. Doesn't look good

Here's the thing, on my side there have been no prejudices or assumptions, just a solid grasp of the English language and facts with evidence provided. You are the one who made the mistake.

I've explained this to you so that you understand it in future, I'm trying to help you improve. You never know when this knowledge may prove useful to you.

XanKriegor

"Need no..." isnt equal to "i forbid".

Sensei


sock

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Quote from: MonkeyIsland on March 22, 2025, 07:06 AMNot all AHK scripts are considered cheating. The ones that automatically release the previous key-down are considered as cheating. 7 months ago, what games were those? They need to be checked.

https://www.tus-wa.com/challenges/challenge-835/ This is the only one I recall that I used for sure. This one was over a year ago, I remember because I was testing it with AHK and without.

TheKomodo

#73
Quote from: XanKriegor on March 22, 2025, 03:14 PM"Need no..." isnt equal to "i forbid".

I never said it means "I forbid". I specifically quoted what you said, and gave you the definition of the word that is key in what he said.

It's like people here constantly use words and phrases and don't even understand what it actually means, and when someone tries to educate them, they go off the rails lmao.

Anyway to get back on track of the subject of the thread, this is aimed at Sensei, we'll talk about this as much as we want for as long as we want.

Sensei

Quote from: TheKomodo on March 22, 2025, 06:09 PMAnyway to get back on track of the subject of the thread, this is aimed at Sensei, we'll talk about this as much as we want for as long as we want.

Well, we're all aware of that.. This thread will probably get to page 15-20 while most of the conversation would be you "educating" someone. And then it will get locked or forgotten.

All I've said is that j0e explained the situation very well and nothing more needs to be added. Imo (if I have the right to have an opinion, Komo!?), this thread should've been locked after j0e's post. But sure, go on :)