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Game #87675, Reported by Ray, Viewed 2541 Time(s)

Classic #22
Clanners
October 10, 2011, 12:18 AM
Winner
CF
CF
Cold Fusion
Veteran 1904 in Roper before the game. Gained 44|19 points
Ray Hungary
Ray
CFea

franz United States

Loser
dt
dt
dæth тouch
Below Average 1412 in Roper before the game. Lost 17|19 points
M United States

Statik Russia


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Roper, #22
CFCF
dtdt
3 - 0
Roper, Overall
CFCF
dtdt
7 - 4
classic, #22
CFCF
dtdt
10 - 6
classic, Overall
CFCF
dtdt
57 - 27
Information Game scheme: Roper
Scheme pick: Winner's pick
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Ray(1318205924)-1.2011-10-09 23.43.10 [Online] CF-Random00`ea, Statik`mm, mm`nino`ae, mm`Mablak`b2b, mm`avirex, @CF-Ray, CF-franz
Game Chat(s)
[CF-Ray] hf
[CF-franz] gl
[Statik`mm] hfz
[mm`nino`ae] i <3 avi
[CF-Random00`ea] hf
[mm`Mablak`b2b] Now we have more mms in game, plan worked
[mm`Mablak`b2b] hf
[Statik`mm] ae
[Statik`mm] !
[mm`nino`ae] ae
[CF-Ray] lol rage
[mm`Mablak`b2b] woops
[mm`Mablak`b2b] Wasn't paying attention
[mm`nino`ae] ninos turn haha
[Statik`mm] im not crazy
[Statik`mm] xD
[mm`nino`ae] haha
[CF-Random00`ea] well shot.
[mm`nino`ae] u r not crazy but u r like crazy u know what i mean xD jk crazy <3
[Statik`mm] smart
[mm`nino`ae] avi u therE?
[mm`Mablak`b2b] bl
[mm`avirex] i am back
[mm`avirex] was out smoking a cigg with my imaginary gf
[CF-Ray] :)
[mm`avirex] aww statik
[mm`nino`ae] lol
[mm`avirex] 5 second would have hit for sure
[mm`avirex] :D
[Statik`mm] xD
[Statik`mm] im still learning
[mm`nino`ae] imaginary? did i miss something ? xd
[mm`avirex] Ray said my gf is imaginary last game.
[CF-Ray] previous game's conversation
[mm`nino`ae] hmm
[mm`avirex] Franz, dont make it so obvious you want to join mm
[mm`avirex] i told you to rig the game.. but come on..
[mm`nino`ae] well shes, i imagine on her everyday at shower xD
[mm`avirex] haha
[Statik`mm] -.-
[Statik`mm] ops
[mm`nino`ae] puto
[mm`nino`ae] np cos cr8 xD
[Statik`mm] puto cr8s
[CF-Random00`ea] interesting crates :D
[mm`avirex] ns
[mm`Mablak`b2b] nice
[mm`nino`ae] ns fdp
[mm`avirex] franz, you better reconsider doing another turn like that if u want mm
[mm`avirex] gj mab
[CF-Random00`ea] gj
[mm`nino`ae] franz is on no talk time xD
[mm`Mablak`b2b] thx
[mm`Mablak`b2b] n knock
[mm`nino`ae] n lol
[CF-franz] -.-
[mm`avirex] ok franz.. ur not joining mm
[mm`avirex] that turn sealed the deal
[mm`Mablak`b2b] woops
[mm`avirex] bl
[mm`nino`ae] there will be a rr after this one?
[CF-Random00`ea] Im gonna go sleeping after this
[mm`nino`ae] u guys are taking to long to reply the king, it is making him a bit mad
[mm`nino`ae] ok xD
[CF-Ray] holy f@#! 2am already
[mm`Mablak`b2b] ye we be done
[mm`avirex] gj
[mm`avirex] thought u were gonna pile all
[mm`avirex] should have.
[Statik`mm] hey franz, can u make a linear warmer challenge, dub asked :D
[mm`Mablak`b2b] linear?
[CF-franz] ?
[CF-Ray] like wxw map?
[Statik`mm] linear map
[mm`avirex] lioke w2w map
[Statik`mm] xD
[CF-franz] he should host it
[mm`avirex] nice hit mablak
[CF-franz] ;p
[Statik`mm] hi cr8
[Statik`mm] mab doesn't want to pile
[mm`avirex] mab will get hit to franz
[mm`Mablak`b2b] if the worm gets knocked back once, it won't go over ever ;e
[mm`avirex] that would be cool
[mm`avirex] i dont think thats tru mab
[mm`Mablak`b2b] It's true
[mm`avirex] sometimes a slower knock works.. when a fasty one does not... no?
[mm`Mablak`b2b] nope
[mm`Mablak`b2b] a worm can't slide over a 2-pixel or taller rise
[mm`avirex] how do you know all of this mab?
[mm`avirex] are u a bot?
[mm`avirex] its time u confess
[mm`nino`ae] lol
[mm`Mablak`b2b] Cuz inter teaches me to get technical :D
[mm`nino`ae] mablak never existed HAHAHAHA
[CF-Ray] he does have awfully many similarities to CPU5
[mm`avirex] soo guys, will we play more clanner?
[CF-Random00`ea] cpu5 sucks :o
[mm`avirex] Random00... your acting a bit suspicious
[mm`Mablak`b2b] cpu5, my foolish younger brother
[mm`avirex] maybe your cpu5
[CF-Random00`ea] lalalala
[CF-Ray] if franz is up to it, I'm in
[mm`avirex] nice try statikboom
[Statik`mm] :O
[mm`nino`ae] one rr last would be cool
[mm`Mablak`b2b] I'm done
[mm`avirex] maybe an elite, then?
[mm`avirex] Ray, do you know how to elite?
[CF-Ray] I've heard about the scheme...
[CF-Ray] is it the one with the walls?
[mm`Mablak`b2b] aw
[mm`avirex] nope ray
[mm`nino`ae] that one with wall sis t17
[mm`avirex] nice roping
[mm`avirex] knock 2 health
[mm`avirex] screw w2w ,i say
[Statik`mm] lol
[mm`Mablak`b2b] I don't think that's legal
[mm`avirex] gj
[mm`nino`ae] lol
[mm`avirex] bl tho
[mm`avirex] it is, mablak
[CF-Random00`ea] its legal.
[mm`Mablak`b2b] Not in my rules
[CF-Random00`ea] by the tus rules
[mm`nino`ae] gg ae
[mm`avirex] i tried to make a rule a while back that ppl should always go w2w.. but it did not work
[mm`avirex] so screw it...
[CF-Ray] gg
[CF-franz] fd
[mm`Mablak`b2b] gg
[CF-Random00`ea] gg
[Statik`mm] gg
[mm`avirex] nice finish, CF gj
[mm`avirex] gg


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Crazy

October 11, 2011, 11:06 PM
Interesting discussion here whether its allowed to knock a worm for hp purposes without having collected the crate (or in this case touched the walls). I`ve always thought of a knock to reduce hp as an attack, and personally I would not have done this knock without touching the walls first. It is allowed in TUS, but by definition (CBA), shouldn`t it not be allowed?

PS: I forgive you nino <3

Ray

#1
October 11, 2011, 11:15 PM
Knocking is not an attack, even if you deliberately damage the worm or not. Attack is using a weapon.

The rules are clear about having to collect a crate/touch a wall before you attack, knocking is not an attack.

Crazy

#2
October 11, 2011, 11:24 PM
Ofcourse knocking is an attack, you deliberately interfere with the other worm in order to do damage. If I pushed/knocked you off a cliff Ray and you fell 30 meters down, would you not say it was an attack on you?

nino

#3
October 12, 2011, 12:30 AM
ae crazy <3

and lol frango23, nice nino`s comparison xD
You Are Losing Time Reading my Signature.

Ray

#5
October 12, 2011, 08:07 AM
As if worms had any common sense compared to real life. :D

It's always been like that since I can remember, XTC, CBC cleared these situations in their rules and I remember specifically that they said "knocking is not an attack".

TheKomodo

#6
October 12, 2011, 08:09 AM
Lol I know mate, literally, it's an attack, but Leagues never seen it that way really.

I think one thing that affects this, is in Roper clanners, where you can knock an opponent down onto his/her teammate for a pile, THEN collect crate and attack. If you get me?

Ray

#7
October 12, 2011, 08:11 AM
Yea. Here's my last message in this topic, since I really hate reading and arguing on multiple pages:

Knocking is not an attack.

Statik

#8
October 12, 2011, 08:28 AM
Knock doesn't end a turn like zook or nade. Following this logic this is not an attack. And of course there is no any weapon used when knocking. If an enemy falls near a mine I dropped in my previous turn and get hit, then it's also an attack? :)


dt`wreckz: zooks are effected my win

TheKomodo

#9
October 12, 2011, 08:32 AM
Quote from: Ray on October 12, 2011, 08:11 AM
Yea. Here's my last message in this topic, since I really hate reading and arguing on multiple pages:

Knocking is not an attack.

Sorry mate, I wasn't arguing I was just, talking lol.

You cannot say that knocking is not an attack, generally speaking, if you mean in this League, then I agree, anything that deals damage is an attack whether accidental or intentional.

Cueshark

#10
October 12, 2011, 08:53 AM Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 08:56 AM by Cueshark
;O erased - didn't read the OP. 

That was my point.  CBA doesn't stop you from knocking before the crate.

darKz

#11
October 12, 2011, 04:58 PM
Knocking was never considered an attack for the reasons Statik and Cue stated. I don't think that should be changed either, it's good the way it is. Getting knocked to death is your own fault to begin with. ;)
I remember knowing who it was but dont remember exactly what I knew
~ Dubc 2010

Chicken23

#12
October 23, 2011, 10:05 AM
Quote from: nino on October 12, 2011, 12:30 AM

and lol frango23, nice nino`s comparison xD

:-X what did i do!?


In w2w i've knocked to deal damage before, but in roper i wouldnt know if it is legal. I feel maybe mab is right, not sure if its covered in tus rules tho!

ZiPpO

#13
October 23, 2011, 04:48 PM
i agree with ray.
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