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Offline MonkeyIsland

Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« on: June 16, 2011, 10:21 AM »
First off, I apologize for my delay. I was in process of changing ISP and couldn't be much active on the forums.

I've reviewed the very famous game of SnipeR and Random00 up and down, also I've installed this script and used it myself.
This script forces the game to accept a rope shot, even though the space bar is already down. On a normal remap, no matter how many spaces you make on your keyboard, when one of the spaces is down, others won't work. But using this script, when one space is down, other spaces can interfere.
So in other way, this script won't do anything for people who rope with 1 finger, but it is a huge shortcut to achieve finger rolling.

This is actually violating one of the game concepts. W:A is programmed to detect "when" you are releasing a key. With this script you are sending multiple shots of the same key, even though the previous shot are not released yet (each new key-press un-releases the previous one even though you are still holding it down). No advanced/modern/super-cool/gaming keyboard would do this for you, because a key getting held down is not only one of gaming event but also a computer programing concept and it's unlikely a company would make a keyboard to violate this.

Games on TUS which get detected to use this script will be void and the player will get a full ban (forums and games) for minimum 2 weeks (starting).
Unfortunately this script is available to download in a few wa-related sites and it has made confusions for quite some time now. Some people miss-think this script is fixing their keyboard hardware issue or something similar. Because of these confusions, we'll be voiding games using this script without any punishment for the next 10 days. Please refer people who you know using this script to this thread.
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Offline Dub-c

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 10:25 AM »
How are you planning to detect users of this script from clever finger rollers who slow down there finger roll and do not make it obvious?
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Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 10:32 AM »
So it applies only to the posted script or any AutoHotKey "script"? Simple remap can be hardly considiered as a script. Also key remaps can be done with different programs (one can even write it by himself). That's why I feel this discussion will take next 50 pages ::)


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Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 10:33 AM »
Theres not only fast tapping related macro problem, any macros should be considered as a cheat, except maybe remapping keys, imo.
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Offline MonkeyIsland

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 10:35 AM »
A simple remap is OK. I said what that script does exactly and why it is considered as cheat. Key remaps won't go in that category :)
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Offline Dub-c

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 10:36 AM »
Why not ban all programs and all remaps and all scripts? Would that not make detection easier? I really don't know how you are going to detect this.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 10:45 AM by ThaShady1 »
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Offline Chelsea

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 10:46 AM »
GJ MI !! I was waiting for that......



Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 10:52 AM »
Why not ban all programs and all remaps and all scripts? Would that not make detection easier? I really don't know how you are going to detect this.

That would screw me over because I actually need to remap my space bar to another key to avoid keylock on this keyboard.

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Offline Husk

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 10:55 AM »
So it applies only to the posted script or any AutoHotKey "script"? Simple remap can be hardly considiered as a script. Also key remaps can be done with different programs (one can even write it by himself). That's why I feel this discussion will take next 50 pages ::)

lol u didn't read MI's first post ae xD

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 11:07 AM »
So it applies only to the posted script or any AutoHotKey "script"? Simple remap can be hardly considiered as a script. Also key remaps can be done with different programs (one can even write it by himself). That's why I feel this discussion will take next 50 pages ::)

lol u didn't read MI's first post ae xD
I did, but the topic name is "Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat", and it confused me and maybe scared many people there when they have read it ;D.


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Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2011, 11:18 AM »
GJ MI !! I was waiting for that......





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Offline Husk

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2011, 11:20 AM »
So it applies only to the posted script or any AutoHotKey "script"? Simple remap can be hardly considiered as a script. Also key remaps can be done with different programs (one can even write it by himself). That's why I feel this discussion will take next 50 pages ::)

lol u didn't read MI's first post ae xD
I did, but the topic name is "Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat", and it confused me and maybe scared many people there when they have read it ;D.

fair enough [:<

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Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 11:24 AM »
Bl Sniper. You will no win anymore

Offline Dub-c

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 11:30 AM »
Bl Sniper. You will no win anymore

Why? He has rope skills, He just wont be able to tap as fast. He can use 1 finger and still be good or try to fr.

I feel for all the people with key lock and bad spaces and the people that need to use 2 spaces in order to get fast taps but the best way for a even playing field and no cheating and scripts is to outlaw all programs scripts macros etc

I dont know how else you will detect this
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Offline Abnaxus

Re: Using AutoHotKey is considered as a cheat
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 12:30 PM »
That would screw me over because I actually need to remap my space bar to another key to avoid keylock on this keyboard.
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