[SOLVED] about picking schemes

[Twyrfher]

(warning: not a perfect english, but understandable I think xD)

This complaint isn't for a specific situation, it's for the moment of picking our scheme at clanners.

There's an analyzer here in the league, that help us to decide which scheme we could pick for gain more point or lose less, but, in MANY, but MANY times, we, clan TaG, can't pick OUR scheme because our rival says things like: "ahhh, we can't play rope games, sorry", "just default, ok?" and it's ok when that happen BEFORE of accepting to play a clanner (hmmm... yes, it's ok), but when that happen AFTER accepting to play a clanner, even with host created, without saying nothing about the schemes that they want or "can" play, is totally bullshit.

We play EVERY SCHEME that you want or can pick. We'll never be afraid to play an Elite or TTRR, indepent of our online players of that moment. Of course, in every clan there are players that have more skills in roping than default, or default than roping, but that is related to the clan's own pick, not for the rival's pick.

I hate when this situation happens, specially with clans that have player with YEARS on worms. It's ok if a JEDI says: "nooo please, no ttrr! please hysteria or wxw!", but with clans like CKC, DoH, or whoever player with a lot of experience, it's just pathetic.

Read this log of the CKC host. This is before the 1st game, which was the CKC's pick, Hysteria ( I will translate the parts on spanish that our mates are speaking to each other with "//", also I will cut parts like "xdd, or join/kicks"):

[2010-02-13 18.52.55] Lukz`TaG is joining a game on DirectIP named "Direct IP", hosted by Direct IP
[2010-02-13 18.52.58] Successfully joined game. Players are: Dulek`ckc, Lukz`TaG
[2010-02-13 18.53.01] [Lukz`TaG] hey
[2010-02-13 18.53.12] Player joined: gamboasdas
[2010-02-13 18.53.13] Player joined: Chicken23CKC
[2010-02-13 18.53.59] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 18.55.06] [Dulek`ckc] what is ur pick, tag?
[2010-02-13 18.55.15] <gamboasdas> elijie xD    // pick
[2010-02-13 18.55.20] [Lukz`TaG] omg
[2010-02-13 18.55.23] [Lukz`TaG] xD
[2010-02-13 18.55.35] [Dulek`ckc] tell us ur pick
[2010-02-13 18.55.41] [gamboasdas] mole
[2010-02-13 18.55.53] [Dulek`ckc] haha, not funny
[2010-02-13 18.55.55] [Dulek`ckc] seriously
[2010-02-13 18.55.57] [Dulek`ckc] we won't start
[2010-02-13 18.55.59] [gamboasdas] wfw
[2010-02-13 18.56.03] [gamboasdas] xD!
[2010-02-13 18.56.05] [gamboasdas] nait
[2010-02-13 18.56.07] [gamboasdas] que elejimos?   // what we'll pick?
[2010-02-13 18.56.37] [Lukz`TaG] shopper o ttrr xd
[2010-02-13 18.56.39] [Lukz`TaG] alguna de esas xD   // one of those
[2010-02-13 18.56.40] [gamboasdas] ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.56.50] [Lukz`TaG] iran a llorar ahora? xd   // Will they cry now? xd
[2010-02-13 18.56.53] Player joined: Slayer
[2010-02-13 18.56.57] [gamboasdas] yo cacho   // I think so
[2010-02-13 18.56.59] [gamboasdas] xD!
[2010-02-13 18.57.01] Player parted or was kicked: Slayer
[2010-02-13 18.57.12] [gamboasdas] o iran a buscar a otro   // or maybe they'll get another player
[2010-02-13 18.57.21] [Chicken23CKC] i wont ttrr :-/
[2010-02-13 18.57.23] [gamboasdas] pa ke reemplaze a chicken    // for replacing chicken
[2010-02-13 18.57.24] [Lukz`TaG] pffff
[2010-02-13 18.57.28] [gamboasdas] no vei? xD!    // I told you xD!
[2010-02-13 18.57.35] [Lukz`TaG] pero lleva meses sin poder po weon    // but he got months without can play ffs
[2010-02-13 18.57.39] [gamboasdas] XDDD!!
[2010-02-13 18.57.40] [Lukz`TaG] con razon llegan a PO los qliaos   // that's the reasson that they reach the PO
[2010-02-13 18.57.45] [Chicken23CKC] its unfair
[2010-02-13 18.57.48] [Lukz`TaG] si todos los games son picks de ellos    // every game is a pick of them
[2010-02-13 18.57.49] Player parted or was kicked: ``OnL``Jaggu`wIB
[2010-02-13 18.57.52] [gamboasdas] lol , but its our pick dude :S
[2010-02-13 18.57.56] [Chicken23CKC] i know
[2010-02-13 18.57.58] [Chicken23CKC] but its selfish
[2010-02-13 18.58.02] [gamboasdas] what do you want? play a pick chose by you?
[2010-02-13 18.58.02] [gamboasdas] D:
[2010-02-13 18.58.06] [gamboasdas] that is unfair
[2010-02-13 18.58.16] [Chicken23CKC] i know its not cool
[2010-02-13 18.58.27] [gamboasdas] u can go for another one if you want :S
[2010-02-13 18.58.35] [Chicken23CKC] but its not cool losing our ttrr rating that players like lordhound, dulek and dubc have built up
[2010-02-13 18.58.46] [Chicken23CKC] who own ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.58.47] [gamboasdas] i dont play histeria either , but i have to play it , cos its your pick :/
[2010-02-13 18.58.52] [Chicken23CKC] well
[2010-02-13 18.59.00] [Chicken23CKC] rope + t17?
[2010-02-13 18.59.07] [gamboasdas] neither losen histeria cos u are better than me and lukz
[2010-02-13 18.59.07] [Lukz`TaG] ttrr + t17
[2010-02-13 18.59.08] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 18.59.16] [Chicken23CKC] shop + t17?
[2010-02-13 18.59.21] [Lukz`TaG] ttrr + t17
[2010-02-13 18.59.22] [gamboasdas] lose* lol
[2010-02-13 18.59.25] [Chicken23CKC] or
[2010-02-13 18.59.27] [Chicken23CKC] u pick both
[2010-02-13 18.59.30] [Chicken23CKC] but not ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.59.32] [Chicken23CKC] :p
[2010-02-13 18.59.38] [Lukz`TaG] ttrr + shopper
[2010-02-13 18.59.39] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 18.59.41] [gamboasdas] nait
[2010-02-13 18.59.44] [gamboasdas] con ttrr cuantos puntos ganamos?    //nait, how many points we'll win with ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.59.46] [gamboasdas] muchos?    // alot?
[2010-02-13 18.59.52] [Lukz`TaG] si    // yess
[2010-02-13 18.59.57] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 19.00.00] [gamboasdas] :/ we need points
[2010-02-13 19.00.11] *gamboasdas* 54 xD
[2010-02-13 19.00.13] [gamboasdas] and wont play shoppa Dx
[2010-02-13 19.00.20] [gamboasdas] ttrr give us 54
[2010-02-13 19.00.25] [gamboasdas] go msn and get another one dude :S
[2010-02-13 19.00.39] [Chicken23CKC] we look for someone
[2010-02-13 19.00.50] [gamboasdas] ok
[2010-02-13 19.00.54] [gamboasdas] lets play histeria then
[2010-02-13 19.01.00] [gamboasdas] and after our ttrr
[2010-02-13 19.02.09] [gamboasdas] what are we waiting for?
[2010-02-13 19.02.12] [gamboasdas] oe nait pide claner en ag    //hey lukze (a.k.a. nait, lukz, etc), ask for clanner on ag...
[2010-02-13 19.02.28] [gamboasdas] si no kieren jugar nuestro pick , pco pa ellos , no jugaré lo ke ellos kieran    // if they don't want to play our pick, shit for them, I will not play just what they want
[2010-02-13 19.03.00] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 19.03.54] [gamboasdas] hmmm
[2010-02-13 19.04.02] [gamboasdas] hmmm I HATE THIS !
[2010-02-13 19.04.08] [gamboasdas] how about play elite and wxw -.-
[2010-02-13 19.04.13] [Dulek`ckc] we simply won't play ttrr or wxw
[2010-02-13 19.04.14] [gamboasdas] nait culiao
[2010-02-13 19.04.18] [gamboasdas] a dude
[2010-02-13 19.04.19] [gamboasdas] you suck
[2010-02-13 19.04.21] [gamboasdas] cya
[2010-02-13 19.04.23] [Dulek`ckc] bye
[2010-02-13 19.04.25] Player parted or was kicked: gamboasdas

This is an example of what are TaG dealing it in months, nothing but bullshit at time of picking the schemes. Why I'm writing this complaint, because we aer tired of this lame attitude. We are much lower on standing than CKC and other clans, we go for every scheme, any player, we don't care about it, and we are not afraid to play your scheme. Our players are all-rounders in leagues. I have a wrist injury, all of us have f@#!ing cheaps KB but we don't care. Guaton has a very large cock (on his ass) but isn't a problem for him. gamboa, mry and others are rusty as f@#! on ttrr, but they play without crying. Sometimes our family is annoying, the cellphone, whatever,... we always play without bitching about the scheme!

[beer]

. bah

[Guaton]

. bah

xDDDD  scared of get an "smite"?  XDDD! 

i read what you wrote before , and you are right lol

 Guaton has a very large cock (on his ass) but isn't a problem for him.

actually it is 

[beer]

no i didnt even flamed or so. just posted my opinan.
but its bettr be neutral, there is lots of ppl that alwys interpreting me wrong.
just nvm

[Chicken23]

Theres many factors why i wont take part in ttrr or wxw clanners at the moment.

Firstly i do not have a keyboard and my roping is shit in canada compared to when i play in england. I would play if i was home, well i would play wxw atleast.

If it is singles league i will play any scheme, i don't refuse picks in singles because it is my fault and my responsiblity.

However with clanning it is different. Its a team effort to build a good rating. CKC prefers to look for clanners in teams of 3 players at a time so we can cover all schemes. With our current high overall rating 1-1's causes us to lose alot of points. Look at our stats this season. We've won more than we've lost and still not gained any seasonal points.

When i have clan mates like dulek, lordhound, sogeking and ryan who are amazing rr'ers its selfish of me to take part and lose 56 of the points they have built up.

Id feel the same way if our worst defaulters went and lost loads of t17s and elites if it was our highest scheme and cost us over 100 points. When eliters in the clan have made it a strong scheme for us, its irresponsible for them to ruin the efforts of others.

I also have to deal with this, but the other way. People refuse to play my pick of bng at times.

I can understand how you would be pissed off if the first game was played and we then refused to play the second pick. You could report that win against us. But before a prematch agreement you can force me to play ttrr and lose alot of points which other members of the clan have gained. I have more respect for my clan mates and throwing away points would upset them.

[Maciej]

Twyrfher is right! If someone says it before game it's ok, u can agree or not, but then u just report free win if avoiders don't want to play. That's all.

Well, even before game avoiding is lame, I play every scheme (ofc if it's classic scheme), even f@#!ed shopper if opponent wishes.

[NinjaCamel]

lmfoa, shouldnt even ask for clanner if wont play opponents pick. if everyone would avoid schemes which they cant or hates, league would dead mayb

[pr]

oh, cmon... stop doubleposting
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/off-topic/humour/

[Chicken23]

Also. Whats more lame, picking someones weakest scheme or avoiding playing your weakest scheme?

pp could of elited but they went for what would be easiest win because i was there. I doubt they would of picked ttrr if ryan and lordhound were asking for clanners?

[pr]

Also. Whats more lame, picking someones weakest scheme or avoiding playing your weakest scheme?

pp could of elited but they went for what would be easiest win because i was there. I doubt they would of picked ttrr if ryan and lordhound were asking for clanners?

We never refused to play opponent's pick. If you are not ready to play at least one scheme - tell it before asking a clanner and pissing into your pants.

[Chicken23]

i wont ttrr or wxw clanners without a keyboard, its frustrating enough playing below par all the time, let alone to bring down my clans rating.

On the matter of pissing your pants, you've done the same when we asked pp for clanner playoffs, "not today im on laptop" as you go play elite cup.

[pr]

i wont ttrr or wxw clanners without a keyboard, its frustrating enough playing below par all the time, let alone to bring down my clans rating.

On the matter of pissing your pants, you've done the same when we asked pp for clanner playoffs, "not today im on laptop" as you go play elite cup.

1. how are your PO finals, chick? played 11 jan? uh oh! a lot of time passed...
2. i could excuse like that since i did it BEFORE game.
so what's the problem? when has me or my clan ever tried to be lame like you? don't think so.

it's clear to everyone that your attitude is lame. Even if it is so simple to be fair and warn your opponents before game, you continue on this.

[Maciej]

Whats more lame, picking someones weakest scheme or avoiding playing your weakest scheme?

ofc avoiding

omg, sure they choose scheme which they can win easier and get more points, it's THEIR pick, don't u get it? You are CKC, u should play everything.

[Guaton]

xDDD

chicken xD u are actinn like a victim , it wasnt chosen cos its ur weakest scheme , it was cos that scheme gave more points ,nothing more ,  strongest or weakest are irrelevants

if you arent gonna play oponent's scheme , dont ask for clanner lol

[Chicken23]

i didnt ask for clanner, on both cases tag and pp were asking. And we said yes but i wont play ttrr :p