I have refused to ttrr twice. First against pp, second against TaG. All the other times we have asked for default only clanners or "no ttrr wxw" plz and i would happly rope or shop. I have also played plenty of ttrr's for ckc and won some. Sure theres some replays somewhere.
not wanting to ttrr has only happened when its just been me and dulek or me and dubc. Twice it has caused a problem out of probably 20 other times. Normaly cfc don't mind picking a default as they can get alot of points for a win, or RoH enjoys picking t17 or bng. Even doh picks roper and i play against crash and zippo who are strong in this scheme.
In the situation against tag if we went 1-1 we would still of lost 20 points even tho we wanted to pick hysteria which would of given us 40. We want to maintain getting points when we play. Yea its lame, and in the past i have played plenty of ttrr clanners, and i have won some because of having a strong mate get a nice time that gives me an extra few seconds over my rivals or they do fall. But back then the points were different and we could still gain from it.
People make refferences to how old ckc is and all that.. how people in your clan should not care if you lose for them etc. CKC is 10 years old. It has gone through many stages, it was once a bng only clan, we would not ask for rope clanners. But back then clanning was different and we werent a serious clan. More a group of bngers and defaulters.
We have gone through era's of being a serious competitive clan, to being not serious and wanting to just fun. For example, after coming back from periods of being inactive, it was fun to just clan even if we would lose because the members had not clanned for ages. Like when i came back after not playing last winter.
The hardest thing about being a clan leader is balancing the two principles of being a clan that is competitive, or a clan that is not serious. There are different clans out there, tdc is not very competitive, although i think that will change soon. CF is highly competitive. Today the leagues are highly competitive. Players get booted from clans if they lose too many clanners, people don't get recuited into the top clans because they are not skilled enough. Clans which win the leagues on a consistent basis care about winning and don't enjoy losing games. Players leave clans if that clan loses too often. CKC used to be a stepping stone clan for top players, people like dibz were in CKC for a long time but we had other members losing us clanners and dibz moved onto dt as they were better than us at the time. Same with nino.
Clanning is about having fun for sure, but i have friends on wormnet who i have considered about having them in CKC, but then thought their league style is not good enough.
"You and your friends don't have to all wear the same t-shirt" skippa made this point when smole wanted some of his mates to join ckc who the majority of the clan did not think were good enough league style and we voted against them joining.
Basically my point is the majority of players today get annoyed when they lose a clanner, some of them cry loads. The clan league is highly competitive and you can't deny the way players join and leave clans is influenced by the skill of those players being recuited or booted. I find it funny that TaG came here trying to smite me when about a month ago Twy booted some of his members like guaton for going on a losing streak. Maybe i should boot myself out of CKC cus i suck in ttrr? Don't act like your shit doesn't stink TaG and try to make me out to be lame.
But yeah, it sucks to avoid and refuse peoples picks. I do agree with NAiL's points which i would quote but this post is getting too long. The overall rating of a clan should represent the players which are active now. That is fair, and CKC is not as active as it was, before wooka, devilage, sogeking, juice and lordhound were all active. Now it is mainly me, dulek, dubc. Our overall rating should reflect those which are currently playing for the clan. Thats fair enough. Theres nothing personal with your comments either NAiL. You bring good arguments and same with beer.. I can take critisism. Its fair enough to be annoyed. Id be pissed if people refused to elite me when i could win 50 points or whatever in it.