Mods for leagues

[DarkOne]

The attitude of people like you is the main reason people stop moderating.
You're not the only person who works long days, you know. But you don't have to deal with your crap after work, unlike moderators.

Is that a problem?

Do you see a warning next to your name?

[ANO]

- No, I don't see the warmer button... warning... (this time, but I have seen it many times xD)

- the reason why you call me and others crappy stuff, or the reason why moderators stopped moderating is the same reason WHY this community is still alive. Because if you think that we're still alive only because of your extra work after work, you must be crazy. We are the showmen of this community, brought attention and fun for all these years, entertainment, like in the wrestling world. Without FoS people, and also other "hated" people and without dramas going on, you wouldn't have your name in Blu and the title of moderator anymore.

We are two opposites, and this has made sense for growing up and have fun, even the banning part in the end has been funny and part of the show. If you don't understand this, as we understand and have awareness of this, you are blind. Everyone is working , or studying or having sex or drugs for too many hours, and when they come back home, they will open the forum, because they feel part of their daily routine, everyone has their own role, your is moderating, mine is bullshitting, we'll never give up, cause is our position, our task, our extra job. But when it boils down to the serious level, everyone who's having sense and love for the game/community, they know how to behave and act.

[philie]

wow, so much passion.

[avirex]

Darkone: dont take what i said out of context, about the walking on eggshells bit.

ANO: this man seems to be the only person here that really gets it

MonkeyIsland: im glad you finally admit that you made your choice based on your personal feelings about me, and your right... you have every right to do this... its your league, but lets not be all koom-by-yah anymore, and pretend that you always do what the community wants, ok?  your doing what you want... and i respect that, its about time you grew some f@#!ing balls, and do whats best for this community without having a little pow-wow before every decision.

if you think its best that im not MOD, im proud that you put your foot down, kudos to you, but ill be damned if ill ever apologies to you for the remarks i made, however.. i will say i took it too far when i called you a "private forum rat" i have no proof that MI has read any private forums, but i do have proof that he "browsed" or "viewed"  however you would like to word it... what he was doing there, is beyond me, i have no idea...  i don't really care... i DO NOT think that MI reads private material for any kind of benefit to him, such as clan chat, etc.... if he was reading FoS forums, im not sure.. i would not blame him, im sure everyone is a bit curious as to what actually goes on there... but as i said, we moved our really private, and juicy stuff outside of FoS, so feel free to stop in at any time.

my very first post about this specific topic, was that you "browsed" private forums, if you prefer "viewed" our private forums, then i apologize, i never said you "read our private forums" because i can not prove that, but i can prove that you viewed.

you then retaliated with the name calling, when you called me a liar, so i will admit that i took it too far with "private forum rat" but i am no f@#!ing liar, and to me, thats the worst thing you can call anyone!! your attacking my character as a man, and i take more offense to that then any f@#!ing little internet bullshit.

there is two things you do not call a man unless.... number 1) its the truth, or number 2) your looking for a fight.

thats a liar, and a thief, and a liar is even worse then a thief, a thief's only after your salary, a liar is after your reality.

but whatever, whats done is done, you called me a liar, and i called you a private forum rat, im not looking for an apology from you though... and if your really waiting for one from me, you will be waiting for a long time my friend.. if you want to ban me because you don't receive one, lets start my time now... i just hope its not a life sentence.

[DarkOne]

ANO, This community is still alive for a multitude of reasons. Your "entertainment" is just one of them (mainly for your friends). So is the fact a league still exists. WA is pretty rare for its gameplay and game mechanics and that's the main reason it's still played.
I don't claim to be the best thing since sliced bread, never have, never will. I'm not even sure why you bring up this topic. It's irrelevant to this thread.

Too much bullshit in complaints and such is a major reason for moderators to stop - it takes up too much time. Sometimes, there's already 5 pages to wade through in one complaint before the working days are over. And it's not just here, WO had its share of bullshit to handle as well, the announcements about when it starts kept coming later and later. To say it's all you would be absurd, of course. To say everything you post is bullshit is equally absurd. But you play your part in the bullshit machine.
That is relevant considering this thread is about not having enough moderators.

[avirex]

Too much bullshit in complaints and such is a major reason for moderators to stop - it takes up too much time. Sometimes, there's already 5 pages to wade through in one complaint before the working days are over.

and that is what me and komo have volunteered to do, not only be moderators, but to fix the rules, so there is much less bullshit in these threads...

it just enhances the things i have said in the beginning of this post, before things went way out of control, and pretty much off topic.

its completely asinine that you mods will find at least one complaint a week that really has found a fine line with-in the rule book, and could pretty much land on either side of the tracks, yet.. all you do is make a final decision about the specific game and move on... but then you will make comments in threads like this "omg, it sucks to be a mod, there is so much drama in the complaint section, and im so tired when i get home from work"

if the rule book was fixed, then it would be a simple copy and paste away, virtually anyone could be a mod.

I would hate to say it, but i kind of wish ropa was here, we may not agree on most things, but i bet he would be driving home all the points i am trying to make. 

I know exactly what MI is going to say, "well whats stopping your from making fixes in the rules?? you could have done that at any point" or something similar, and sure, he is right... i could read the rule book, and try to brain storm things that need to be added, but that would be a mega fail (just as the first rule book) you need the hands on experience, and case-by-case examples to draw inspiration from.

So, if MI is too stubborn to make komo a MOD, he could always follow along in the complaint section, and with each complaint, take note if the rule book could/should have an update.. that would be a great help in the community, but at the same time, its a slap in the face to him suggesting he cant simultaneously be a MOD, so that would be komo decision.

@komo: If MI is setting these stipulations to be MOD, that you have to turn into some tree hugging, dick riding, alter boy... watch your language at all times, refrain from getting in any debates, name calling, or otherwise controversial behavior, i would strongly suggest you do not do that, komo.... this community needs you komo, we need you just how you are, dont change just to become a silly ass MOD... we dont need another computer generated personality haunting the ultimate site, we need real people.... im sorry, but i like when people present to the community who they are, regardless how silly, crazy, egotistical, angry, vindictive, happy, or any other descriptive word they are... cant stand it when some of these robotic people (i wont mention any names) just acts in a professional manner as if this is some work environment... i mean, if that is how you really act in your real life, then that is ok, continue to be yourself, but its not fun, did you notice your lack of friends outside of the work place?   so, f@#! the mod position komo, f@#! what monkeyisland thinks of us, and be you. dont change for anyone. you have been you for the 10+ years i have known you, if you change just because some Iranian video game admin does not think your cut out to be on his team, i would lose a great deal of respect for Scottish men everywhere. :p

[MonkeyIsland]

Komo and Avi are part of the community, being around for years and still playing quite actively... they like have fun with jokes and stuff, talking about porn, asses and tits is not an issue in our part of the world, maybe you don't understand or cannot figure out how it's that and it could be a limit in judging them for how they really are. For me they are two simple guys, that like me and other bunch of dumbs enjoy taking things from the funny and sarcastic prospective... but when it goes down to the serious level, I am a PRO f@#!ing man, and at work I am stronger than a rock. But I am the kind of guy that in the free time, even at work, I enjoy life.. and I enjoy it in my anal way, but I do my f@#!ing job, working 15 hours per day.
Do what you want, community wants that, ... but this community it seems to be quite vertical, you, MI, on top and than you go down super fast to the slave prospective. ... that's not nice... it's pretty egoistic.

The problem with you (and your circle of friends) is that you see the site only for yourself. In that context, yes it is OK to talk about whatever you want and whenever you want. This site has over 3000 members. They come from different countries, different cultures and different ages. The one thing that hold us together is the game itself.

I'm pretty sure talking about porn in Italy for very young people IS an issue.

MonkeyIsland: im glad you finally admit that you made your choice based on your personal feelings about me, and your right... you have every right to do this... its your league, but lets not be all koom-by-yah anymore, and pretend that you always do what the community wants, ok?  your doing what you want... and i respect that, its about time you grew some f@#!ing balls, and do whats best for this community without having a little pow-wow before every decision.

You don't seem to get the "personal feeling" concept.

"judging by personal feelings" is when you let an alternative source meddle with your main source of judgement. I know you from TUS. My "feelings" of you has shaped by your behavior on TUS. There's no alternative source to meddle in my judgement! I do the same when I'm "judging" nino, DarkOne, Deadcode etc etc.

@komo: If MI is setting these stipulations to be MOD, that you have to turn into some tree hugging, dick riding, alter boy... watch your language at all times, refrain from getting in any debates, name calling, or otherwise controversial behavior, i would strongly suggest you do not do that, komo.... this community needs you komo, we need you just how you are, dont change just to become a silly ass MOD... we dont need another computer generated personality haunting the ultimate site, we need real people.... im sorry, but i like when people present to the community who they are, regardless how silly, crazy, egotistical, angry, vindictive, happy, or any other descriptive word they are... cant stand it when some of these robotic people (i wont mention any names) just acts in a professional manner as if this is some work environment... i mean, if that is how you really act in your real life, then that is ok, continue to be yourself, but its not fun, did you notice your lack of friends outside of the work place?   so, f@#! the mod position komo, f@#! what monkeyisland thinks of us, and be you. dont change for anyone. you have been you for the 10+ years i have known you, if you change just because some Iranian video game admin does not think your cut out to be on his team, i would lose a great deal of respect for Scottish men everywhere. :p

Yes. That's exactly what this is about. If you want to be "silly, crazy, egotistical, angry, vindictive, happy", then be yourself. Nobody's taking that from you. If you wanna run for politics, you gotta watch yourself. Isn't that common sense?

so, f@#! the mod position komo, f@#! what monkeyisland thinks of us, and be you. dont change for anyone. you have been you for the 10+ years i have known you, if you change just because some Iranian video game admin does not think your cut out to be on his team, i would lose a great deal of respect for Scottish men everywhere. :p

First of all, Komo already is a tournament moderator, long before this discussion. The league mod package, you'll go under the magnifying glass and it comes with a lot of drama hence the "stipulations".

Second, you have always been making fun of Komo, going after each one of his posts, we all know that. I've even sent you private messages to stop picking on him. I don't find any "respect" in that. Now you're his buddy? charging him with "free spirit" emotions and losing your non-existent respect if he goes to the other direction?

[ArsGoetia]

avi as mod? plz no..

[TheKomodo]

Too much bullshit in complaints and such is a major reason for moderators to stop - it takes up too much time. Sometimes, there's already 5 pages to wade through in one complaint before the working days are over.

Well maybe that stops you, but it doesn't stop me, I read almost every thread cuz everything is interesting to me, bad complaints and good compliments.

Lol avi, I wouldn't change who I am as a person to be a MOD, i'd still have the same character, i'd still argue and take the piss in games etc, however I would watch what I am saying in forums and not swear, and we could just move our arguements somewhere else

@ MonkeyIsland:

It is actually possible to temporary hate someone, yet still have respect for them.

When you said "If you wanna run for politics, you gotta watch yourself", while that is true, this is hardly politics lol, for starters pretty much everyone on TuS is an honest person, everyone in politics is a lying useless git lol.

[avirex]

MI, i understand your "feelings" on me, are based on my actions on TUS... uhmm... no shit?? they obviously are not based on my actions at the bar last saturday night, when i got on the karaoke machine, and made a complete ass of myself...

they are based on TUS, no kidding dude...  but the thing your failing to understand is, just because your feelings of me (based on my actions at tus) are that im a hot head, or a silly f@#!, or not cut out for a mod, does not mean thats everyones feelings of me... stop pretending like your actions are justified, and your giving solid reasons why... your actions are based on YOUR OPINION of me, and the only solid reason why your actions are justified, is because this is your website... just roll with that, its more respectable, i actually do respect the fact that TUS is yours, and you make the decisions, im glad you have found your balls, for a while they were at the very bottom of your purse

as far as me and komo, I'll take jabs at him until the day i die, and he will return them. that does not mean we do not have respect for one another, we have known each other well over ten years, if you do not have any people in your life that you exchange harmless banter at with, but still have respect for... then maybe you need to get out more.

and come on dude, are we really comparing a worms armageddon league mod, to a politician? lol... wait... really? seriously?? ... 

or is that a joke?... it must be a joke!! LOL! GOOD ONE MI!! buahuahauah i knew you had a good sense of humor hidden deep inside of you, lmfao.. that was a good one dude, you made a funny!!!   worms politicians hahahahah cant stop laughing now

lets just end this thread on that funny joke...

[SPW]

Let it be, really. I can understand what MI is telling you and.. he is not wrong at all. So just respect it and work on your reputation. Also, sometimes its better just to shut up and think twice before post.

No offense, Komo and Avi.

[TheKomodo]

I actually feel like i've been perfectly fine here...

And I agree with some things MI says, but don't agree with his end result.

[avirex]

Let it be, really. I can understand what MI is telling you and.. he is not wrong at all. So just respect it and work on your reputation. Also, sometimes its better just to shut up and think twice before post.

No offense, Komo and Avi.

how can you say MonkeyIsland is not wrong at all SPW?? its his opinion, maybe you share the same opinion as him, but you are not the judge of his opinions being right or wrong, sorry bud.

I think my reputation is just fine, i have nothing at all to work on, as far as my reputation goes...... i will agree tho, there are times i should think before i talk/type.. both in real life, and on the internet.

No offense taken SPW. and i am prepared to "Let it be, really." as soon as people stop addressing me in their posts  

[ArsGoetia]

avi as mod? plz no...

[Peja]

Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt.